Nate86

This is my "first kill" since I've bought the car in early January.

I was cruising along a three-lane highway when I noticed a set of headlights coming up behind me real fast. I saw a Mustang with a dude and a couple of girls passing me and then stop at a red light a little further ahead. The I pulled up to the light myself but was unable to do anything because there was another car in front of me. I could just tell the guy was itching to get somewhere in a hurry, though... he was doing that little "tap-brake, tap-brake, tap-brake" thing (I hope you guys understand what I am trying to say.

Anyway, the light turns and he floors it up to another red light. I pass the car in front of me and cruise up next to him at the light. At first I was just going to ignore him because I figured I'd get beat (I don't know what year it was but I know it was the newer body style of the '99+). Anyway, I look over and the dude starts laughing and pointing at me and he gives a quick revv. At this point I'm thinking, "Ok... what the hell. I'll give it a shot." I mash the brake down, revv to about 1100 RPMs and wait for the light to turn green.

It turned green and I launched with a slight chirp of the tires and the guy gets way behind... I don't really know what happened. Maybe he just didn't try or forgot the light turned green or something. Anyway, I get extremely far away and start cruising down the road when I see the headlights of the 'stang coming up real fast like before. I start to floor it and before you know it I'm going about 95 MPH down this road. The guy never managed to catch up to my car (about 3 lengths behind at the time I started slowing down) and when he passed me he yells something out the windows that sounded like "Your car sucks!" or something to that effect. He turns off on some other road and I just continue to cruise down the road.

Hehe... that just made my night. I know this story wasn't quite as flashy or interesting as some of the other stuff posted here (I'm sure it was probably the least powerful engine out of them all for that year, whatever it was), but it was a really great experience for me . Doesn't get much better than humiliating an *** in front of his woman and yell at me cause of it.

Thanks for reading!

pasky

Yea those newer mustangs aren't crap, cept the mach 1's and Cobra's, their easy kills. Pretty sure you tore a v6 a new hole. The GT's aren't much of a challenge either, I tore one a new hole a few weeks back, was fun watching the expression on his face as I blew by after he caught me off guard. But ya gotta give your props to a pony car. If it weren't for them, thier would be no camaro. The camaro was GM's answer to the Mustang and what a great answer it was.

tpivette89

awesome win for the LG4!

my 84' LG4 Z28 should be back on the road anyday now, hopefully ill get a few street races out of it (no one ever wants to race me when im in either Corvette). theres no way im going out looking for 99+ GTs to run... ill get spanked!

Nate86

Yeah... like I said, I wasn't about to "challenge" the dude but when he started acting all cool in front of the girls he had in his car there was no way I was gonna let him show off without backing it up.

I figure he was one of those dudes that probably thinks his car is unbeatable because it's a Mustang.

ShiftyCapone

iTrader: (7)

Looks like you got a V6 stang. They are an empty threat. Good kill.

nick418

its still a a good kill cuz its a STANG! Congrats

1981z28

good work with the stang im sure it was a v6. but still a good kill

FLYNLOW92rs

iTrader: (53)

Better be in the 12's....

How ironic, it was me getting horribly beat by a V6 mustang in my LO3 that shocked me back into reality that my car was slow.....

pasky

Think you mistook what I said, what I meant was the only threats are the mach 1's and cobra's, only seen one mach 1 here in town and a few cobras, find out soon enough if one ever goes to the track or pulls up next to me . The GT's are cake.

Mustang5L5

C'mon, that's a little stretch to call beating something that runs 14.1's bone stock "cake".


Before someone chimes in with the "I see them running 15.2's all day at my track" remark...... i'll rephrase it. *MY* '03 GT ran 14.1 stock.

And if that isn't fast enough, i'll go grab my 5.0!

305LG4Cutlass

A friend of mine just bought a 2000 4.6 Mustang bone stock with a few miles on it and it ran 14.3 at the track. Went for a ride in it and I was fairly impressed. It sounded really nice. This guy also has an 88 Iroz with a modded 350TPI that runs 12's with no traction. The Mustang is just his daily driver car. I would say low 14's isn't really bad for a bone stock car in its price range.

nick418

why does everyone say low 14s is such a bad thing. For a cheap sport car that fuggin good. Plus you always put some other money into so it can go faster. But for Bone Stock thats pretty fast. Low 14 second car beat most cars on the road.

ChrisFormula355

holy cow, you beat a v6 mustang with 3 people in it

25thmustang

Nice Kill...

Mustang kills are the best arent they!

urbanhunter44

iTrader: (3)

Something about killin mustangs..

How much HP do those V6's put out?

br()bert

Not to mention how restrictive the stock 4.6 exhaust is. Get an offroad x pipe on one and take it for a drive.

1981z28

190hp and 225ft.lbs

305PhoenixAm

They get 14's with that? How much do they weigh?

DuronClocker

iTrader: (1)

No, thats for the V6 model. The GTs have a bit more power than that... I don't know the numbers off the top of my head though. Mach 1's have DOHC, and Cobras are basically the Mach 1's but blown

Airpak

base = 193hp @ 5,500RPM & 225ft.lbs. @ 2,800RPM
gt = 260hp @ 5,250RPM & 302ft.lbs. @ 4,000RPM
mach1 = 305hp @ 5,800RPM & 320ft.lbs. @ 4,200RPM
cobra = 390hp @ 6,000RPM & 390ft.lbs. @ 3,500RPM

thats for 99's and up

25thmustang

One or two V6s have clipped 14s with free mods in great weather. A few more GTs have clipped 13s. A few Mach 1s I guess have hit 12s, and the Cobras a few have gone in the 12.3 range...

These are all with free mods and great drivers!

pasky

What about Saleen's? I've been trying to bait one here in town to race me. He has a silver saleen but he don't want any .

25thmustang

Depends could be a 14 second non SCed one, or a 12 second SCed one!

Marc 85Z28

iTrader: (3)

Why? Because when your modern day V8 pony car driver has to think twice about racing a growing population of cheap turbo 4s and V6 powered 4 door family sedans, that's when its a bad thing. While Ford finally put a strong engine in the new Cobras and Machs, the GT is definately behind the times. I can't tell you how many times I've seen these newer GTs get owned by Nissan's Altima and Maxima cars, the new Accord, and a few Lexus cars just to name a few. And with all the new turbo 4s out, that just adds salt to open wounds. The SOHC 2V 4.6 never was, and never will be a true performance engine (much like our 305). It's more at home in the F150 (barely ) and Town Car.

But remember, a low 14 second GT would still embarass more than half the members on this board!

25thmustang

I think more than the fact that bad drivers make the Mustang look bad (a low 14s maybe high 13s Mustang shouldnt have an issue with any Maxima or the like), is the fact that for the price it isnt a bad car. If you want the V8 sound and torque for cheap what else is there?

The 4.6 is no 305... it by design is not a bad motor whereas the 305 is a bad design. The 4.6s have good potential.

urbanhunter44

iTrader: (3)

Are those numbers at the crank or at the wheels?

nick418

Yeah and im not feared with those V6 and turbo 4s. Beat my friends 98 Turbo Audi, and beat my friends Brendan 2000 somthin 3.2 Acura withe ease. Those are both high 14 sec to low 15 sec cars. Do you know what kinda time period are third gens came from? A very very very Poor Performance Era, And for our cars pushin over 200hp with over 300Lbs of TQ was alot for a car then. Our cars atleast were Fast For there times when the Mustang GT will never be. Plus the Tune Port System cranks out way more TQ then the Gt and Only pushin lil 15hp over the 245hp L98. BIG DEAL. I love my car , i dont even care if civics take it out.


I still think my 91 Z is fast. Also i can never pic a GT being classic or get respect like third gen will in the future. Do i care that my L98 runs say 14.4 in a 1/4 mile, and a GT runs 14.2 or 14.1. i could give a ****. Its all the same **** to me. 13 secs or 14 secs its all the same stuff. I aint no racer, and never will really care to be one. I just dont understand why everyone on this site b*tches about there THIRD GEN. So why did you buy one then? Why waste your time with one? THen go out in the realworld and buy a new Camaro or Corvette then, if your thirdgen cant beat V6s. Why doesnt everyone just relax, and just cruise with your cars and just have Fun. There fun good handlin cars. Who cares if one car is tenths of a sec faster. Like i say "big deal" THen mod your car up and save your money.

1981z28

thats the v6 mustangs

1995 Ford Mustang 3.8 0-60 9.9secs 1\4 17.1secs

this sound better.




http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ford/performance1.htm

25thmustang

A 1995 V6 is one of the slowest late model Mustangs ever, so I dont know why you are showing 1/4 times from one...

As far as the guy with the thirdgen talk, you guys like them because you know what they are. A LOT of people dont know what they are and stereotype them as a ******* cruiser. It happens, no big deal. I am the first person to NOT compare a new car to a used car in any aspect, they were built in different time periods and usually for different reasons! Comparing a third gen to a new GT is and never will be a fair comparison, as it is with any two cars built in different years. I say just dont worry about the new GTs, their owners know what they have and you guys know what you have.

br()bert

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nick418



Also i can never pic a GT being classic or get respect like third gen will in the future.
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MAny MANY people can!
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So why did you buy one then? Why waste your time with one?
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I bought one because i couldnt afford the mustang i want.

Nic

Yea those GT's are cake

I went 13.97 @ 96 mph on a day when the DA was 1606 ft on the stock wheels/tires. Went consistent 13.6x's with just a set of prostars w/BFG's in 1691 ft DA a week later. The rest of the car, to this day, remains bone stock.

pasky

Come get you some, I stand by what I said, I have yet to meet one that can even hang with me. I never said thier aren't any fast ones, I sure as heck havn't run into any of them though.

25thmustang

Run my friend Mike, stock motor, stock heads, stock cams, Bullit intake, gears exhaust and all the bolt ons... Car ran 12.1 @ 110! Now it has cams and such and hasent had the weather to run 11s yet, but did go a 12.0... Not ALL the 4.6s are slow. My friend Erics Brother (Eric ran 12.77 in a stock motored LX by the way) went 13.9 in a bone stock vert!

I usually dont care for sticking up with the new GTs, but i cant turn around and say I have never seen an LT1 or LS1 that has hung with me yet, and wouldnt be lying!

1981z28

i was just saying the v6 mustangs run 16s and 17s
the v8 models run 14s and 13s


ps i did not mean to make u think i was downing mustangs

pasky

Okay, but you see me hear crying about it? Just sayin from my experience, thats all.

ljnowell

I know the horsepower rating from ford for the cobra is a little underrated too. They have been dynoed at 365 RWHP. On HorsepowerTV I think it was they pulled one in, changed the pulley on the SC and reprogrammed it, and made like 420RWHP. Pretty damned impressive to me.

25thmustang

Not yet... LOL!

And from my experience I have an LS1, LT1 and 03 Cobra killer, have beeaten every one I have raced!

91wtROH17's

Come race me, I got somethin for ya 25th.

ChrisFormula355

There must be really slow Ls1s and cobra's in your area. In Tucson any Ls1 that doesn't run mid 12's or better is considered pretty damn slow, and most of the Cobra's I've seen are modified and run deep into the 11's.

25thmustang

Most of the time I race at the track and they run from 12.8 to 14s... Remember this is what I have raced from my ecperience, not saying they cant...

And 25thRSS sure, I mean i just have a stock motor with a few bolt ons... I have no shame, have yet to see a stock motored thirdgen run anywhere near what mine has run, so no harm for me to race all thses 355 and 383 H/C/I cars. Makes me feel better!

Mustang5L5

Nic, when did you get an '02???

Mustang5L5

The 3rd Gen Mustang GT was fast for it's time. It's always been fast for it's time. Even these days it can still beat a lot of cars out on the road. The Mustang was pushing 200HP/300TQ before the F-bod (for 3rd gen) and they built up a name for the car in the 80's. WHen you say MUSTANG people think fast. What's not to respect about that?




Hang on a sec? You are saying you don't think a Mustang will be a classic in the future?? Hate to say it, but it's a MUSTANG!! You don't think 10 years from now guys won't be talking about the '03/04 Mach 1 and Cobra they way guys look back at the old SVO's, Fox Saleens, '93 Cobras, etc. These cars don't really measure up to today's standards, but if you ever see a mint SVO Mustang at a gas station, who doesn't check it out? That's respect right there.

The new Mustangs may be cookie cutter cars, but so were the 3rd gen Mustangs. Now 15+ years later, the 5.0's still get respect. When i go to gas stations in my 5.0's i get someone tossing me a compliment or talking about when these cars were new and yadda yadda. All this from a plain jane cookie cutter LX Mustang.

To say that in the future, the new Mustangs won't get respect is rediculous. Ford is getting the most power in their engines for the Mustang than they have in almost 40+ years and probably soon will pass those levels set back in the 60's. 400HP Cobras? Yeah those won't be forgotten anytime soon. Even the 260HP Gt is the most powerful GT ever.

260HP still beats a lot of what's out there. Sure the Altima and Maxima get about 260-270HP as well, but they are heavy and nearly 15 GRAND more than a GT. You could go buy a Mustang GT AND a Mustang V6 for the price of some of the cars you are comparing.

Ford can pony up when it comes to power, the whole point of the Mustang GT is supposed to be a cheap V8 powered sports car. You can pick up 2004 Mustang Deluxes right now for 18-19K new out the door. (if you shop around and use rebates) That's 14.1 for 18K. Nothing else comes close in terms of ET per dollar ratio.

When it comes down to it, it's a Mustang. The name has somethine behind it just like the Camaro name has something behind it. When was the last time someone got chills down their spine when they hear the name "Lexus IS300" or "Scion TC" or "Toyota Celica". 20 years from now, a lot of these cars will be forgotten. Names like Mustang, Camar, corvette, Trans Am, have been around for a long time and have built up one hell of a reputation.

Jgolden314

couldnt have said it better(coming from a camaro owner)

nick418

Did i ever say that all Mustangs are not gonna be classics? NO! I said a 2004 Gt isnt gonna get the respect or be like a classic like a clean third gen will. Also i love all the old Mustangs 1972 and bleow, i think there classics!And also i think that all Mustangs some day will Be Classics.But ther not gonna get the respect like the Camaro tho (imo)First of all Camaros are gone so they dont make them anymore and get rarer. Also Each year when the Mustang was agianst the Camaro (1968-2002) Like 98 percent of the time the Ford produced way more Mustangs then Chevy produced Camaro in a Single Year from 68-2002. So right there Its makes a Camaro more special and diff. I see altleast over 20 Stangs a day. And i see like maybe a few Camaros in a day. Ford probably produced More Mustangs in the last 3 yrs then 3rd gen F bodys were built in 10 yrs. Actually i wouldnt be suprised if that was true. And the Mustang GT 2004 only has 15hp more then my engine. Ha, and i have like over 40lbs of more torque then the GT. And im not sayin my camaro is the fastest either or the GT. Your rite i think there both pretty good powered V8 Muscle cars for a Cheap Price and get very good perfomance for a Cheap price ( My L98 and the GT) What would i rather drive more? the Mustang Gt or my Camaro. i rather drive My camaro in a heart beat. Thats why i got my Camaro. It has a diff style and you dont see the whole Teenage Crowd owning one (like a ford mustang) The kids in my school either own ****boxes, Riced out cars, Or most Commonly a MUSTANG. My dad asked me "son when you graduate would u like to own a Mustang?" I said HELL NO. I got the Camaro for a HS present and im gonna keep until the day i die. I love my Camaro and no one is gonna change my mind about it. Even if it had 93hp , i would still love it and keep it. Its all about the love!

Im Like PEE WEE Hermann. I love My Camaro as much as Pee Wee loves His bike.

pasky

WHen you say MUSTANG people think fast. What's not to respect about that?

No offense, I love all american cars, including mustangs. But nowadays, when I hear "mustang" I think chick car...

nick418

Yep, Most of time i See Chicks driving the new Mostangs

25thmustang

OK so we just read your opinion on your car and a new GT. That does NOT stand for the majority of people out there. If you ask the majority of people about a thirdgen Fbody see the response you get. No offense but most people will laugh at you. They have a reputation of being ******* driven cars in primer or on jackstands. Now this is NOT my opinion, but from meeting and talking with a lot of car people in my time, this is the general opinion around me. I personally know what they are and what they are capable of, but most people dont, and it shows, the reason there arent a lot of them.

To call them a classic because they are rare, maybe, but I think in the future the 79-93 Mustangs will be considered more of a classic than the 82-92 Fbodies, why? Well because they are popular now, like the classics of now (Chevelles, Novas, Mustangs, Fbodies of the 60s and 70s) and in 20 years will still be around, still be restored, and still be running down the track. The same can be said for the thirdgens, but with less produced, and less out there, they will be more RARE, not more classic.

Now about your car and a new GT, its hard to compare... At the time, yours was the highest level car in the Fbody lineup. Nowadays the GT is the second least in the lineup, similar to what a 305 TBI was back then. Figure this...

v6 Thirdgen...v6Mustang
305 TBI...GT
305 TPI...Mach 1
350 TPI... Cobra

Thats how I see it in the model lineup, and then you see why I DONT compare new cars to used cars... Things were different back then and now! If you want to compare your Camaro to a new GT, go ahead, we know in YOUR opinion, YOUR car will be better for YOU! But remember thats just you...

I also am a teenage kid with a Mustang... Its not exactly like every other Mustang, but I gaurentee every last one of you that didnt know me would group me with the other Mustang owners, without even knowing what the car had done to it, or was capable of. Thats fine though, makes me feel good to know they laugh, yet have NO clue!

nick418

25th i kno what your saying man, But the Stats on a GT and L98 are not that diff as ppl make it to be esp the 1le or G92s. i know old cars and new cars are diff im just saying. Now, with your Mustang. THats great that your happy with it. Now i disagree with you about the 3rd gen stangs being more classic. I do belive that the 3rd gen mustangs will be a classic. But i think the Fbody is gonna be classic as well. Why? These cars were known for bringin the performance back, esp after 87 when the l98 came and the 305 5speeds as well as the 5.0 Mustang. These were both very competitive cars and brought performance back. These Cars were hittin 14s at mid to high 90s. You dont see many cars do that in the 80s or mid to late 70s. So imo i think all these cars will be special at one point in the future. And ppl Can call me Red Neck. I dont care. I get that alot. Big deal. Is that gonna stop me from lovin my Camaro. Hell Maybe there jealous or maybe they think its trash. I dont give a ****. Same with my dads 1986 Corvette. Everyone says " OH its a 80s Vette, looks boxyy isnt as good as the C5 blah blah blah." I dont care i drive that around cruise with it and have fun and have beaten many 5.0s stangs, no offense Look i dont really care what ppl think, as long as i like it and it should go for you as well. I hear lot ppl say that the Foxbody Mustangs were Just BUTT UGLY. Do you care if ppl say that about your car? I assume you dont. Point is screw all the haters and enjoy your car and have fun with it until last.

Mustang5L5

So what your saying is you think a '85 Camaro Z/28 has more right of becoming a classis than a '04 Mustang GT?

Why?

Just because it's a Camaro?

What i'm trying to say is they all equally deserve to be there.

Ok, think of this. Some of you guys are saying you see tons of Mustangs every day. Well according to ford, only 30% are V8's, so the majority of stangs on the road are V6's driven by girls or teens or whatever. Now think back to the 60's. Ford made More V6's each year than they make Mustangs total now. For every '69 Gt you say cruising around, you probably saw 10-15 V6's in every parking lot. Sound familiar? 40 years later, whatever happened to those V6's? Not really around anymore and not really what you think of when you think of a classic Mustang.

How bout the 3rd Gen Mustang? Mostly 4-bangers were made. Now 15-25 years later, the only really clean ones you see are 5.0's that have been cared for. In another 5 years or so, every daily driving 4-banger will be run into the ground and all that will be left will be the "classic" models.

Now for the current stang. You see em everywhere, but they are mostly V6's. Give it some time and you see the number dwindle. Buyers will go for the new body style stang and sell off the V6's. Young kids will buy em, wreck em, you know the story. In 10 years time, only the people who really care about their 99-04 Mustangs will still have em, and most of the time they are V8 owners.

You can't sit back and say the Mustang has become a "chick" car because all they make are V6's and you see them everywhere. Ford has been doing it for 40 years. The Mustang's always been two different cars for two different classes. We have the trendy drivers who get the v6's for image (maybe a few v8's) and then you have the enthusaists. Time weeds out the trendy people and just leaves the enthusiasts to enjoy the cars.

That doesn't go for Mustangs, it goes for all the american cars we love. I mean how many 2004 Corvette owners are true enthusaists?? How about an '85 Vette owner? If you ran into both at a gas station, which would more likely be "into" his car more? Like i said, time usually weeds out the "posers"

25thmustang

Both classics, yes...

Camaro or Firebird more classic, not a chance in hell...

5.0 Mustangs have a larger following now, and I think this will continue well into the future! Contrary to what some may think, the Mustang played a large roll in bringing back modern day muscle cars, by being so easy and cheap to make fast, like it was in the 60s and 70s! Fbodies provided a great opponent, but in the end you dont see them on the track or the street like the 5.0 Mustangs!

Thats my take on it!