Originally posted by Teal91rs
late models drive like a shoping cart ill take my RS over a 4th gen anyday plus when you see a thirdgen you either think wow what a beater or what an awesome car what is it? 4th gens you look at it and go eh another camaro. when i drive the nova i catch the eye of every man child and woman all all give the thumbs up i see the 4th gen drivers and well noone even bats an eye well its kinda unfair im kinda like a pumpkin with a 4 inch cowl and one mean idle when a 4th gen is one of four colors red white black sometimes silver and you cant even say im lieng oh and not to forget light shades and an SS hood. well as you can see i dont like to have a car that looks like everything on the road and that ends the rant about why 1993-2002 camaros all look exactly alike and sound pretty much the same oh and not to forget ive talked too quite a few 4th gen owers all have prioblems with there super spiffy 4l80e's or whatever they might be all ahve had them replaced most likely cuase all of them are hotshot rich kids that liek to drop the N bomb but till real quailty gm i dont really think i could see a 2002 SS in 30 years 13 for that matter

Originally posted by Dano 00TA
Can you repeat that in english please

Originally posted by omcrider


Well that proves it!

Originally posted by bo ty guy
Well, no matter what motor was in the chevelle, nice kill!
But what the hell is up with people thinking the LS1 is some kind of wonder motor? I agree they are a great engine, but people on this board act like if you got one under the hood, they are unstoppable.
If you think a stock LS1 is going to out run a stock LS6, well plainly put; you smoke crack! If the LS6 is running bias ply tires, then ya maybe. And yes I know HP ratings are different now. Well, 450 hp is very underated for the LS6. It has been documented many times, over and over that a stock LS6 will make over 500 flywheel HP.
Somebody also mentioned that the engine build-ups they read about in magazines are barely getting 450 HP out of exotic headed big blocks!??? What the hell mags are you reading? They are getting almost that out of vortec headed small blocks!!!
If you don't think a 11.25 to 1 compression, big lift solid cam, with OLD square ports will make 450HP(and gobs of torque) then you my friend need to change reading material. Later!

Chad
92 B4C
Minirammed 383

Originally posted by YenkoZL1
TealRS.... I hear ya with the big blocks in all BUT, does your mid 11sec BigBlock LS6 Camaro Pass Emissions?! All factory mid to low 12sec Vettes do. And thats what Im about. And why is everyone bashing LS1, LS6, LT1 motors anyways? I dont get it. They're all great engines designs. Especailly the LS1. One of the most innovative designs around. Just cause some wannabe rich guy thinks his Vette makes him better than most doesnt mean ya gotta hate the setup. Besides anyone can buy a 12second 1/4. Not everyone can build a 12sec 1/4. And whether you beat a Vette, Viper and so on or keep close you'll always have one up on him cause most of the people hear on the site built their setup. That just shows character.

Originally posted by YenkoZL1
And why is everyone bashing LS1, LS6, LT1 motors anyways?

TealRS.... I hear ya with the big blocks in all BUT, does your mid 11sec BigBlock LS6 Camaro Pass Emissions?!

LT1s aren't anything special, but the Gen III motors are simply better and the future of the V8 but some people just aren't willing to let go of the past and stop living in the 60s, or they are just envious . lol, it's great his BBC is running 11s but an LS1 can do that cleaner, smoother, more streetably with smaller displacement making for a much better daily driver street stomper.

Originally posted by ChrisFormula355
blah blah blah blah blah

Originally posted by 70LS6Droptop
my dad bought this car in vancouver in 1970 brand new he drove it till 1978 and then parked it and put it in the back of the garage,the car sat till 1992 when i began doing minor work on it like, paint and new tires I began to take the car to the local track of mission raceway..now remember chriss the car is untoched no headers no nothing right outta 1970, on 245 inch street tires it was running 13.20's this was throught manifolds which were badly leaking and a tired transmission well we rebilt the tranny and I put 2 inch headers on it and this is how it sits today in my garge, last year I took it to the local street drags, with no track prep and alot of spinning i was knocking donw 12.40's all day witha best of a 12.41@109.88, and as soon as my freind or myself hooks a scanner up to this junk computer i will scan them...Please explain how a stock LS1 car with headers and 2 inch pipes will run 12.40's it would be close but no where near it, o by the way the car would be even quicker with the 4 speed so take an LS1 AUTO and then start talking. Is it hard for you to face the fact, that the forever loved camaro and transam could be out run by a Brick as you call it? haha give your head a shake!

Originally posted by jocww
the diff between a big block and a ls1 is major diff. ls1 may pull like crazy but a big block will throw you into the back of your seat so hard you will cry

Originally posted by ChrisFormula355
Yeah, and lets not forget that in a big block muscle car, you can tape a $20 bill to the dash and the G forces are SOOOO extreme that when you punch the gas, your face and arms get sucked into the seams of the vinyl seats, and boy, their ain't no way in hell you're gonna grab that twenty dolla bill!!

Originally posted by Saigon_Bob
okay lets see.. it ran after sitting for 20+ years?? and 245in tires is big... try 245 mm or cm i cant remember which it is

Originally posted by ChrisFormula355
Yeah, and lets not forget that in a big block muscle car, you can tape a $20 bill to the dash and the G forces are SOOOO extreme that when you punch the gas, your face and arms get sucked into the seams of the vinyl seats, and boy, their ain't no way in hell you're gonna grab that twenty dolla bill!!

I swear I could write a children's book on all the legend's and myths of the mighty big block.

my dad bought this car in vancouver in 1970 brand new he drove it till 1978 and then parked it and put it in the back of the garage,the car sat till 1992 when i began doing minor work on it like, paint and new tires I began to take the car to the local track of mission raceway..now remember chriss the car is untoched no headers no nothing right outta 1970, on 245 inch street tires it was running 13.20's this was throught manifolds which were badly leaking and a tired transmission well we rebilt the tranny and I put 2 inch headers on it and this is how it sits today in my garge, last year I took it to the local street drags, with no track prep and alot of spinning i was knocking donw 12.40's all day witha best of a 12.41@109.88, and as soon as my freind or myself hooks a scanner up to this junk computer i will scan them...Please explain how a stock LS1 car with headers and 2 inch pipes will run 12.40's it would be close but no where near it, o by the way the car would be even quicker with the 4 speed so take an LS1 AUTO and then start talking. Is it hard for you to face the fact, that the forever loved camaro and transam could be out run by a Brick as you call it? haha give your head a shake

Originally posted by 70LS6Droptop
Please explain how a stock LS1 car with headers and 2 inch pipes will run 12.40's it would be close but no where near it,

super we will see how long htey last i have my elco and its over 30 yrs old almost 40 we will see how the 02s lasat in 2042

Originally posted by Dano 00TA
Remember it depends on the big block also, there are alot of dog bb's out there. I don't think a 325hp 396 engine will throw you back that hard. Now the 400+ ones will indeed. My 427 sure as hell did!!!

Originally posted by ChrisFormula355
Yeah, and lets not forget that in a big block muscle car, you can tape a $20 bill to the dash and the G forces are SOOOO extreme that when you punch the gas, your face and arms get sucked into the seams of the vinyl seats, and boy, their ain't no way in hell you're gonna grab that twenty dolla bill!!

I swear I could write a children's book on all the legend's and myths of the mighty big block.

Originally posted by ChrisFormula355
Uh.....you didn't notice the ?? That was sarcasm dude.

Originally posted by Dano 00TA
Yeah, I noticed but quoted it because there's someone on the board that believes it though and will chime in soon with complete agreement

if you read a post and get that out of it then you are very gulible people!

Originally posted by vampiroc
LT1s aren't anything special, but the Gen III motors are simply better and the future of the V8 but some people just aren't willing to let go of the past and stop living in the 60s, or they are just envious . lol, it's great his BBC is running 11s but an LS1 can do that cleaner, smoother, more streetably with smaller displacement making for a much better daily driver street stomper.

Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
Stall and gears make up for torque.

Yeah Jocww, this isnt about LS1's but it came up in previous replies so I figured I would jump in and stir it up a bit