Bullydawg

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I dont get how Mustangs are so quick.

Didn't they come with really bad rear end gear-ratio's?

25thmustang

5.slow rustangs are slow and junk! End of that story!

MidnightBlue07

Indeed!

Bullydawg

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Little cocky and arrogant ehh...Man oh Man. Too bad you guys are all rolling with T5's. Still in 2005 at that. kinda sad isn't it? That's old technology in GM land, 1993 and up F-Body V8's roll with 6 speeds. Haha. O well, hope you have fun with your t-5's.

No Lie though, mustangs are quick. They have the weight advantage with manual transmissions. While you couldn't get a 350 with a t5. I would like to see a stock 5.0 manual run a stock 350TPI with a manual to see what would happen. I would think it would be a different ball park.

wanab03ss

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I dont know, the strongest 350 for 3rd gens was the tpi and really the motor only ran to @4500-4800 strong. (this is if both are stock out the factory) Im sure a 5 speed would have improved the launch but every Mustang vs 3rd gen Ive seen the mustang cant squat and go off the line like our cars, Now a tpi intake (stock,,, with port work done to raise the rpm band) would run right there with it.

Saigon_Bob

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Sad to say one of the baddest cars i've been in was my buddies fox body with a 5spd and a 347 stroker and all the cobra goodies.

it was scary fast.







and thats coming from a guy with a chevy bowtie on his leg( lol )

only thing scarier was a SRT10 viper i was in.... mmmmm or maybe my friends T2 Rx7.... that **** was fast when it hit boost

v10viper04

I don't really can much for boost, sure its nice but i really wouldn't want it unless i needed an extra 100-200 hp. I like the idea my N/A car just whooped your twin turboed car or whatever else they use hahaha

jimmy92rs

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my buddie has a 92 notchback that made 276 to the wheels. all suspension and he sprayed it with a 100 shot. the car ram 10.85 at the track last summer. Mustangs are nice cars, I dont know why everybody has to down them all the time. If I had some extra dough, I would buy an early 90s coupe. Matter of fact I almost sold my car to buy a 41xxx mile 93 coupe. He wanted 9500 for it. to much for me.

v10viper04

I would NEVER trade my F-body for a foxbody.

freestylzz

I'll second that.

I'll also second the comment made that they can't hook as good as a 3rd gen.

jimmy92rs

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I would NEVER buy a v10 viper. They are ugly and sound like (crap)6 cyl cars!

Vash Vega

you got that right lol but they are quick(in a straight line)thats it but im sorry there ugly as hell,

Vash Vega

like i said there fast in a straight line but take them cars through corners with all that power and that square box on a skateboard will kill you and who the hell would pay 9,000 FOR A FORD LOL
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but i would take it over any mustang,i don't have a probably smoking a 5.slow in my iroc and in my Z06 i don't waste the gas,i rather have a NICER looking car(IROC Z) that CAN TAKE CORNERS and go fast in a straight line than a hideous car(FOX BODY) that is only design and good for one thing drag racing and straight line fun,i rather have the extra weight for stability and at higher speeds ect.

Vash Vega

lol plus they got a torque arm setup like us on our fbodys and thats old technology too lol guess they got tired of only going fast in a straight line to bad the new camaro is going to have irs and i bet you ford still going to use their outdated live axle in there next gen mustangs

jimmy92rs

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well I guess it is what type of racing your into. I like the 1/4 mile racing, and you dont need a 6spd for a 1/4 mile race, unless maybe your a pro stock car.

jimmy92rs

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I believe 25thaniversary was joking that "rustangs" are junk. You guys should grow up. I grew out of that "mustangs suck"faze already.

v10viper04

I know he wasn't cause 5.0 stangs are junk, the 4.6 are better! ALOT better!
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O and by the way maybe you outta look into growing up too, you say were stupid for hating stangs well you just said Vipers suck, so why don't you sir grow up And a Viper could wipe you all over the road if were gonna start in with facts. (and they are a little slower than a Z06 so i think thats not all that junky....)

jimmy92rs

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Maybe your right.Well I ll have to put 70 grand in my camaro and we ll see what is faster, a viper or a 92 camaro.

v10viper04

I'm talking stock for stock not stock vs. highly built.... I know a viper is more expensive and so is a Vette. But they are nice cars, thats exactly why they cost more. You can hate but don't be a hypocrite about it, thats shows your stupid." you guys are immature for saying mustangs suck" then you say " Vipers suck, and sound gay" hmmm thats not hypocritical or anything... So i'm not fighting i'm just stating the facts.

jimmy92rs

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For the record I never said vipers suck, I said they are ugly and sound like six cylinders

Spitzfiya

A 5.7L GTA would smoke 5.0L mustangs...

No really...I mean dosent it just make sense???

5.7L 350Ci vs 5.0L 302Ci

more torque from the 350 would make for better launches....or is this just because the 5.0 is a manual?


Common guys weight doesn't factor in THAT much..

jimmy92rs

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Those to engines have a 15 hps differance. 350tpi 245hp, 302ho 230hp. plus the t/a is auto and the mustang is not. The mustang is faster, and weighs at least 200 lbs less. i put my money on the mustang.

25thmustang

My car actually corners real well... Saleen suspension stuff helps that out... Also looks are subjective, but the magazines mine has been in thought it looked alright? Sure mid 12s is slow nowadays in the 1/4, but I plan to actually have a motor built, instead of the stocker, one of these days. The boat takes up all my time now...

Cars SUCK! I'll be out on the water if you guys need me.

Bullydawg

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hey 25th... My Buddy has a California Special 5.0HO with all the Saleen goodies. He has a special plate with the car showing the # made. Have you heard anything about his California Special? I cant find anything online for it.

Vash Vega

quadrabind heard of that lol but like i said there design for a straight line.i know bout the foxbodys also my cousin has one 87 lx 5.0 its quick and he got the saleen suspension but he even admit that the iroc z's look better and handles better and he drives nothing but fords

ROCFATHER

I remember those cars pretty well and they are fasssst stock! It just seems like that motor is really put together well and u can do so much to them. I think when GM designed our cars they were thinking body design first, which there is no comparison to mustangs. But when it came to engines they were not to big on speed. IMO

Vash Vega

yup and don't forget about the suspension and interior but your right bout the engine part tpi sucks for top end and tuning is a pain

DrummerDad

I remember when they were new. A friend and me used to go prowling the streets for races (back when I was young, and indestructable). In an 89 mustang GT. Ive always liked the f-bodies, and he did too. But like alot people, he couldnt afford an IROC, or formula. The stangs were cheap. In his bone stock 5.0, he lost to formulas (350s), and IROCs, (also 350s). GTAs were too heavy. And the afore mentioned Grand nationals were a guaranteed loss also. Those were the good old days.

I would definatley own a mustang. I would never trade my firebird though. I think us pony car owners have more to worry about than each other. I wish we could all band together to eliminate r!ce. Ugh, I hate imports, and FWD. Ill hang out with the mustang guys, and the mopar guys too. They arent near as annoying as the imports.

v10viper04

completely!!!!

25thmustang

Well looks are 100% subjective... I personally wouldn't own any Fbody I have ever seen over my car, but then again I did build what I wanted as far as looks went.

Saigon_Bob

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whoa whoa whoa... i hang out with RX7 guys and they are way less weird and annoying as mopar and ford guys...

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I gotta say why do you see more chevy motor in ford car set ups.....

BluFBdy

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wow, racism toned down to the car level...awesome. hate to sound like an idiot but why define people by their cars? granted it is fun but why??? Oh and for the record....IMPORTS, and R!CE are 2 totally different worlds. Imports have intelligent driver, credible modifications, and normally look pretty good while they wipe the floor with all the imitators....kids that roll in civics and have a cat back exhaust that run to every light like its their last chance....are "r!ce"

In any case, i hang with Fbodys, stangs, supras, FC owners, you name it, dont hate because the car, now if the guy is a total idiot then by all means hate him lol. The advantage to a diverse crowd of friends is bragging rights when your fbody destroys them

Just my

v10viper04

Good point man.

Saigon_Bob

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My point exactly .... the hate because of car goes both ways... but it makes the group look ignorant.. if one Camaro guy hates on every import as rice... then we all look like ignorant r3dn3cks

DrummerDad

So you can hate on a mustang, but not on an import? Okay.

Sorry, but Id rather chill with the muscle car crowd. The import guys here are mostly tards. Living at home, and spending thousands on their cars. While their Mom and Dad pays the bills, they talk down to the guys who dont have money to mod a car. The mustang guys are usually closer to the same age, and have the same resposibilities, so they understand not everyone has a money tree to pick for the next set of LED or neon lights.

Its not racism either. Just my observation.

v10viper04

Kids who don't pay for **** can go either way, Camaro owners can be ****** and so can Mustang boys, old muscle cars owners, and ricers/tuners, ANYONE in that manner. Maybe some more than others but still...

Saigon_Bob

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Quoting ppl helps us know who you are talking to.

Anyways the way I see it is, the "hate" on mustangs is more or less the fact that they are our DIRECT rival. That being said imports are kinda their own contingent.

Saying all imports are r!cers is generalizing the whole import scene while saying i hate a mustang cuz its ugly and faster than my car is a specific opinion for a specific reason

DrummerDad

Reading helps you not look like an idiot too. If you want, Ill edit it with a quote, but I thought we could all keep up.

Show me where I said ALL imports were r!ce....

Didnt think so. I said I hated imports, and FWDs. I never called them all r!ce.

I know mustangs are our direct rivals. But the mustang guys are usually a more mature demographic. And your opinion on mustangs being ugly, is exactly that, an opinion. If they were that ugly, they wouldnt still be selling them.

Back on the topic, you probably cant beat him. No offense, but they do run well...

timeflyere6

haha mustangs... hmm like 4th gen firebirds no offence they suck my old 97 grand prix wasted a 01 stang that was fun... again the grand prix also wasted a 4th gen firebird the guys gf was so pissed at the next light she asked me what was under my hood because i cheated she said. to be honest no i didnt it was a stock 3800 series2. but none the less my 91 firebird v6 beat a chevy blazer it was like a 99, i won but idnt stop in time and ended up ramping a hill and put my car into a spin.... i managed to park in between to tracktor trailers in a parking lot that i span into sware on my son life i have witnesses but man that was not fun.

as far for the mustang dude ur buddy prob kick ur but i knew some one who owned one same year and he burned quite a few cars, except for my race burner thank god but that was a ford too, and that ended in a bad fight! It wa snot my fault it was raining he was going to slow 75, so i passed him and he lost control sort of.
Do some mods then kick his but, dont tell him though he cant know you modded though.
I love 3rd gens cant wait to work on mine 92 25th 3gen all the way

Bullydawg

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Some proper grammar goes a long way.

v10viper04

hahaha

Saigon_Bob

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Bolded, seems like you were singling out imports. Don't be mad at me, you said it

huh.... seems like you need to stop racing around if you keep crashing....

timeflyere6

i have but it was fun, and hey out of like 15 races 2 spins is not bad

DrummerDad

Im not mad. I do tend to have an attitude about imports. Again, its all about the demographic. As far as stock imports that do commuter duty, I dont mind. I wouldnt own one, but they dont bother me. Around here when you get to the modded ones, they are annoying. And when you go to the track, its almost always an import, or FWDer that oils the track down.

Most of the muscle car guys have their stuff together.

25thmustang

JUST WOW!!!

Vash Vega

they are like i said there fast in a straight line and easier to make faster so people can go even faster IN A STRAIGHT LINE that's why they sold fast and there not worth that much i mean i respect them but i wouldn't own one can't stand that ugly @ss interior and the exterior reminds me of a escort with a body kit and wing lol

Saigon_Bob

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Yea, I feel that. Around here I'm surrounded by r1ce and imports alike. Alot of fast FWD honda, fast 240s, FC's... and alot of slow ones..

not many mopar guys around here ( the few I've met are eccentric at best )

and the F.O.R.D. guys around here are a funny lot, body kits and all kinds of weird stuff. In fact theres a 4.6 style Stang for sale down my block, on the window it says something about TT kit available... not sure what thats about lol...

There are around here tho, TONS of fast 4th gens

BluFBdy

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Well i suppose we all look like ignorant ****** now, but on the flip side how many of those kiddies with their awesome chromed out civics and their sweet neon LEDs that add like 10hp(or so they must think) look at us and just go hm....stupid hillbilly, or for some reason everyone ive talked to around here associates thirdgen with crack dealer....dunno what thats about. Fact of the matter is everyone has their opinion and everyone has their likes and dislikes, if we sit and **** and moan about how fwd makes us mad then those kids with the civics are just gonna write you off as a whiney no good r3dn3ck. You cant win, but NOBODY can just let it go its just a vicious circle.

As far as one car owner "having their stuff in order" it has next to NOTHING to do with the car. It about personality and work ethic i guess you could say. Age, and maturity dont go hand in hand, i am barley hitting 18 and i can bs about cars with the best of them and still keep it in check. It also shows what people really think of their cars, i wouldnt put my car down the strip without hitting a checklist a mile long, that kid that his daddy paid for his car, might have a list similar to this:

[x] Gas
[x]Dont die

All about the person, not the car, race, age, or demographic.
I work hard to keep my thirdgen alive, i have shed more sweat and blood for this car than i ever have before and im pretty proud of it and if i catch someone knocking me for my work telling me how crappy it sounds or how stupid it looks, well (to humor the r3dn3ck deep down in our fbody souls...) "thems fightin' words"

Saigon_Bob

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agreed. I enjoy the fact that my car is "unreliable" because i work on it more often means i know exactly whats going on inside her...

and when she is running she's faster than ur $30k S2000 or hemi chrysler product.

TPI-Formula350-

did these 2 race yet?