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Old 04-13-2011, 12:25 PM
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Re: 1992 Camaro Rs LT1 Project Vs 04 Sti & 97 B18 Hatch?

^^ $1350 for an LT1 T56 seems kinda high. Unless he is including the clutch, flywheel, and bellhousing I'd look elsewhere. I got my LS1 T56 for $950.
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He is everything besides shifter. I passed on it. Maybe later.
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^^ $1350 for an LT1 T56 seems kinda high. Unless he is including the clutch, flywheel, and bellhousing I'd look elsewhere. I got my LS1 T56 for $950.

Cheapest longblock LS1 around here is running about $1200 usually... Most pulled dressed blocks are in the range of 2k... Not including a tranny of any kind... That's retarded....
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Re: 1992 Camaro Rs LT1 Project Vs 04 Sti & 97 B18 Hatch?

LS1's can still command a premium because they are all aluminum. And unless you are talking about some serious power a LS1/2/3 makes a great foundation for a fast street car and lets you keep the lower weight of an all aluminum engine.
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LS1's can still command a premium because they are all aluminum. And unless you are talking about some serious power a LS1/2/3 makes a great foundation for a fast street car and lets you keep the lower weight of an all aluminum engine.

I still feel LS based engines are overpriced severely...
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I still feel LS based engines are overpriced severely...
You can get a complete LS1 by me with around 60-70k miles on it for $2000. Considering that bone stock that is a 345 HP engine that will get 22 mpg around town, I'd say not overpriced at all. Youd spend $2k just putting nice heads and a better FI intake set up on a SBC to get it to that HP level.
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You can get a complete LS1 by me with around 60-70k miles on it for $2000. Considering that bone stock that is a 345 HP engine that will get 22 mpg around town, I'd say not overpriced at all. Youd spend $2k just putting nice heads and a better FI intake set up on a SBC to get it to that HP level.

I disagree. I can pick up a Corvette LT1 making 300hp and still getting very close to that if not the same in fuel economy for $500-900 and sometimes even less. I agree that most gen 1 sbc will need heads to make that power but I still feel the LS is overpriced. I will never save 2k to buy an engine if I'm going to be modifying it anyways... I'll buy a $200 engine and rebuild it. If LS engines weren't so much around here I would probably own one, but I still feel 2k is too much even if I'm not planning on rebuilding it... You could throw a set of Vortec heads on a sbc and run a carb and you'll make more than 345hp for far less than 2k... Or even modify a TPI harness or run a standalone harness and run an LT1 intake using the TPI harness.... No high rpm choke like the TPI intake has. Still even with the advanced technology and being an aluminum block, etc. it doesn't justify it being as expensive as it is... IMO
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Don't get me wrong the LS is a great engine I just feel it's overpriced personally...
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I disagree. I can pick up a Corvette LT1 making 300hp and still getting very close to that if not the same in fuel economy for $500-900 and sometimes even less. I agree that most gen 1 sbc will need heads to make that power but I still feel the LS is overpriced. I will never save 2k to buy an engine if I'm going to be modifying it anyways... I'll buy a $200 engine and rebuild it. If LS engines weren't so much around here I would probably own one, but I still feel 2k is too much even if I'm not planning on rebuilding it... You could throw a set of Vortec heads on a sbc and run a carb and you'll make more than 345hp for far less than 2k... Or even modify a TPI harness or run a standalone harness and run an LT1 intake using the TPI harness.... No high rpm choke like the TPI intake has. Still even with the advanced technology and being an aluminum block, etc. it doesn't justify it being as expensive as it is... IMO
Oh stop being such a cheapskate

The way I see it, your not paying for the 345 HP it comes with but the potential of the engine in itself. Throw only a cam into an LS1 and you would be hard pressed to find many LT1's that would run with it. I know what your saying honestly, but with LS1's come all the modern bells and whistles people want...flash tuning, ease of modifying, etc etc. They are up there in price but the reason LT1's and sbc's are so cheap is because nobody wants them. Things that are high in demand bring good money IE the LS1. Lets not turn this into yet another battle though. I don't see the LSx motors coming down in price anytime soon so for those that don't want to spend the money, there are plenty of LT1's and SBC's out there!
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Oh stop being such a cheapskate

The way I see it, your not paying for the 345 HP it comes with but the potential of the engine in itself. Throw only a cam into an LS1 and you would be hard pressed to find many LT1's that would run with it. I know what your saying honestly, but with LS1's come all the modern bells and whistles people want...flash tuning, ease of modifying, etc etc. They are up there in price but the reason LT1's and sbc's are so cheap is because nobody wants them. Things that are high in demand bring good money IE the LS1. Lets not turn this into yet another battle though. I don't see the LSx motors coming down in price anytime soon so for those that don't want to spend the money, there are plenty of LT1's and SBC's out there!

I'll keep my underdog LT1 and keep bringing it to you LS guys..
PS. seen plenty of LT's run with LS motors with similar mods.... And the price difference is b/c ppl "think" the LS engines are worth that much and dumb ppl will pay that much for one... Secondly there are probably 100 times more sbc's out there than LS1's so that's another reason they are really cheap. And the LT's get a bad rep from guys like you so nobody wants them. "waa waa the optispark is junk" 3/4 of the time that person has never even owned an LT1... The main advantage of the LS1 is the 18-degree head as it can flow better, you can modify an LT1 to utilize an 18 degree head, any sbc for that matter... Enough of the battle! haha I really get into it when we discuss differences. haha It's technology man, it's all technology....
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Oh stop being such a cheapskate
Then stop being richer than me!
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Re: 1992 Camaro Rs LT1 Project Vs 04 Sti & 97 B18 Hatch?

I sold my old `84 Z to a friend of mine.He converted it to a 1995 LT1 w/carb.,Put in a small cam,long tube headers,converted it to 6 speed and put in a 4th gen rear with 3.42`s.It ran 13.2 @ 112 mph.That should take care of most 4 bangers.
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It ran 13.2 @ 112 mph.That should take care of most 4 bangers.
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Then stop being richer than me!
Oh boy, if only you knew.....



Originally Posted by 84zeddd
I sold my old `84 Z to a friend of mine.He converted it to a 1995 LT1 w/carb.,Put in a small cam,long tube headers,converted it to 6 speed and put in a 4th gen rear with 3.42`s.It ran 13.2 @ 112 mph.That should take care of most 4 bangers.
13.2 @ 112? Damn tell your buddy to get some better tires!!! thats a very low 12 second MPH.
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