Orr89RocZ

wow this was an old thread. i still think bbk should bring out a small block intake. this isnt just for our cars, but for any small block. i think they have a market for that

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D's89IROCZ

We need to have it up hear. If it came with it , you have to have it . Thast why I care about the EGR . I would have had a stealthram already if IT had one too.

1989GTATransAm

If the Stealthram was 50 state legal I think most everyone would own one. In the meantime I will continue to play with my TPI.

If anyone is going to the SEMA show this year maybe they can inquire on the BBK TPI intake.

Tibo

The answer will either be "in development stages," or "in the scrap bin."

GOY

Pretty much, yeah.

Orr89RocZ

i know i would if it was 50 state legal... but i said screw it, and decided to do the LT1 intake conversion. finally gonna dump TPI. a 350 motor peaking at 4100 rpms just doesnt do it for me

D's89IROCZ

Mine peaks at 4900 with the crappy stock heads/ZZ4 cam. Others are peaking higher than that too. One guy is makeing power to 6000 rpm on here . With TPI . Just wanted to toss that out. Sure it takes some work but it can be done. Not saying it's the best idea to go with .

Pete84

When will any news make its way out? If it wasn't for the lack of Kalifornia CARB intakes, I'd have a 3rd gen by now . . .

92IrocRS

Wow, its about time companies started looking at our cars... I just hope I can get my hands on one before they have a holding list...

Pete84

Kinda funny, my '86 Prelude Si tops out at ~5600. Not that high in comparison to a pushrod V8 for a SOHC 2.0 gutless Honda thingy. Good for commuting -/+ 3000' of elevation though.

1991CamaroRslow

Notice EVERY SSI intake from BBK is out now except for the third gen TPI style intake, looks like BBK gave us all the shaft.

shaggy56

Yeah SEMA is just around the corner. If you dont hear anything then I doubt it will ever come out.

Pete84

BBK hasn't completely forgotten the TPI's. They have an AFPR and intake gasket kit, and several throttle bodies as well. Not very complex but it is something . . .

They haven't put out a 4.6L intake manifold, so hey, there is reason to not give up on them yet.

Anyone going to SEMA

Pete84

Hey, I got a message back from a Brian, a honcho in R&D IIRC, at BBK. He says that the TPI design is still in raw casting, no maching work has been done nor has a prototype been completed. Because of other, more pressing projects they won't be getting to the TPI design until this coming sumner most likley.

1991CamaroRslow

Wow that's promising news, I can't wait to see how this thing compares to the Stealth Ram. I wonder if it's the LS1 style intake, or if they went with the dual plenum style like the Mustang's got. It'll be interesting to see if this materializes.

JP86SS

Guys, I don't know if anyone has checked the date of the original post!
It has been bout 2 years to the date. (- 2 days)
If this had even a chance of making them revenue, it would be done by now.
Maybe when thier business slows down to the point they are scratching for product ideas, then maybe..maybe this will be looked into being finished.
I don't see it ever happening and glad I didn't wait.

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TA

Just FYI, I visited the BBK engineering facility a while back, and they have a finished prototype base, but the top isn't yet even roughed out. They told me that they had back-burnered it because they had been concentrating on the red-hot Mustang 2 and 4 valve modular motors, and now are hard at work on an intake for the new 3 valve ('05 and later Mustang GT) intake. I can understand, its a much better market than the TPI stuff. I don't know if they'll ever get back to it, but it was in the works a few years ago.

1989GTATransAm

I'm curious as to the design of the BBK TPI intake. Also what materials it will be made out of.

JP86SS

Pure Unobtainium

B4Ctom1

I wish there was a way to partially unsubscribe to this thread until some actual news about this intake comes up.

TPI TERR

we need some more info .. fast ... !! lol ...

D's89IROCZ

Well after a very dodgey phone call with them. All I could get was " If there WAS an intake ( IF) it wouldn;t be released untill at the very least ....the end of 2007.

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I'll be attending the PRI Show in Orlando, Fl later this week. I'll try to remember to speak to someone from BBK and see what I can find out.

92blue

I spoke with Brian Murphy, president of BBK on Saturday regarding their TPI intake. They have not ditched the TPI intake idea, they are still going ahead with it. They are working on setting up tooling and equipment to manufacture them, and he was explaining to me that this is often a time consuming process. I spoke with him regarding some details as to the intake's design, but he wasn't sure about some aspects of the intake, which leads me to believe he is not involved in the intake's design directly. To my understanding, the intake manifold, runners, and plenum will be one piece. I assume this would mean that there will be fuel rails included with the manifold, as the stock rails probably won't work. Runner length will be somewhere around 16-18 inches.

As far as availability, its looking like it will be available in the second or third quarter of 2007. I understand completely why this project has been in the works for so long... there are markets with larger demands than TPI, and those would obviously take priority.

Hope this helps shed some light on the subject...

B4Ctom1

Considering the BBK/Edelbrock business relationship I can see one of two possible outcomes.

The Bad - BBK rebadges the old edelbrock system with BBK emblems.

The Good - BBK redesigns the entire idea behind the edelbrock setup and BBK and edelbrock both sell the new intake.

1989GTATransAm

The problem I see is what motor is the new TPI going to be designed for? Will it be a compromise that will include the 305 motor? If so it will hurt the 350 and up crowd.

Maybe they will make two. One for the 305's and low end 350's. Then another for the high output 350's and 383's.

I hope the runner length includes the heads. If not that is to long. 16-18 inches is OK if it includes the heads. Also the cross sectional area of the runners and intake manifold need to be taken into account.

Jekyll & Hyde

I would it expect it to be runners and manifold (more mid power).
Stock manifold runner length = 8"
Stock runners = 11.25"
Stock heads = 6"
Total Stock Runner Length = 25.25"

Bryan Rogers

Hey guys!

I just happened to find you while Googling "TPI intake."

I'm finally test fitting the first TPI intake proto on an 88 IROC here at the BBK R&D facility.

As long as there aren't any major set backs, I'll be dyno testing it on this otherwise stock car in the next week or two.

At this time, I can tell you that it is in "working prototype" form and I am not authorized to post any pics right now as things often change quickly.

I will post dyno results on here as soon as I get them. The runner lengths and all of the hard details are still open for modification based on the dyno results so please be patient.

Hopefully this is good news for those who are interested . It looks to be a promising product for those in need.

I'll post up with the info ASAP.

One more thing-
I can't respond to every post here, but there is one subject that I will address.

BBK and Edelbrock have not been partners for about 5 years. So don't worry about any cross-marketing, or re-badging of their products. I know there are lot's of you guys out there that have BBK EDELBROCK on your throttle bodies that are going "what"? right now, but don't worry, it's all good.