Graeme'sFirebird

lol yea still going on...

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Flowmaster 80 series, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, SS
Hand Made Tips, 3 1/4" out, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6A Box, Air Intake Temp Guage, Brushed Aluminum Hood Pins
Currently Working On:
T5 swap
Next to buy:
Slp dual cold air intake!

Kyle F

I dunno what number I am but I did get to race a Firebird today with a T-5 and a 2.8 or 3.1 not sure, but I say um well I had him once I hiut second gear and continued to pull on him to 80 or so when we let off because by that time we were on the highway and in traffic. He caught up with me nodded and we proceded on our own ways. Im just telling you guys that I still don't think monkies car is that fast with as little mods as he has done. You know as I remember I don't think there is any real HP ot TQ gain from a Throttle Body coolant by pass. The improvement you get form spark plug wires is usually in Throttel response more that HP and even then at most you get 5hp over stock( Now if you replace a crappy set you might get some improvement). What is this Z-28 exhaust did you go buy it out of a junk yard or is this an aftermarket set-up for a Z28? I will say you probably got a few ponies from that and you cold Air, but I would think you are lucky to be getting 130 to the rear whells because the 93 up 3.4 only put like 135 to the rears and that was with a 160hp rating from the factory.

Now this is not a flame I am really wanting to get some answers here about you mods monkie

Jason E

Kyle,

You say no flames are intended, but are you trying to **** people off? If you are, it's working...

How the hell do you know the 2.8/3.1 you beat was in good shape?? It coulda run like crap.

I'll grant you that you beat it in a straight line, that isn't all that surprising.

But question...what's at the end of every straighaway??

What pisses me off is not that you believe an Escort GT will eat a 6 in a straight line, but when you posted that you kept up with an RS in twisties, that tells me you believe an ESCORT handles as well as an RS.

RIGHT....

Kyle F

don't get me started I know it handles better than a Stock RS. It better to becuse I have done a few things to the suspension. No its not slamed to the gound

85f-bird

i'm not sure anymore if you're underating all the 2.8L's. It's quite possible that your well tuned 305 is out running us, in fact i'll give it to you, you're most likely a faster car. But you're overrating all 305TBI's. Not every 305 is your car. Some cars come from the factory, and while they're rated at the same HP as other cars like them, there's will be much faster than the stock 2.8L. A friend of mines father worked for Chrysler, and as he says, the factory would occasionally choose different cars to be faster than the others with the same motors. I've heard some people saying that there v6's are dog slow, well mine isn't, and i've driven a TPI 305, and it was faster than me, but my car still wasn't slow.What it comes down to still, is who owns the car, how long they've owned it, and how well they take care of it. I'll damn near guarentee that the people on this board are taking care of their cars better than the people that we normally see on the highway, that simply bought it cause it looks good, and haven't changed the oil in 12,000 miles. So, you can't say that Monkies car couldn't be a TBI 305, you also can't say that your car could beat Monkies, we don't know, and probably never will unless we post pink slips. But still, what's that prove, nothing. Heck maybe you could beat monkies ride, so what. Does that automatically mean that every 305TBI will beat Monkies ride? And if a 2.8L beats a 305TBI does that mean that every 2.8L will beat every TBI out there? None of us here, are spokesmen who do represent the entire v6 or v8 engine community. And one race shouldn't be taken personally to people with the same engine. If a v8 guy says he spanked a v6 guy, i'll give him credit, such as your kill with the 2.8L manual tranny. But Monkie deserves as much credit with his 305TBI kill, as did i with my 305TBI kill. it's not an attack on v8 guys, or TBI guys, it's simply what happened, and your car, no matter how similar to the other TBI isn't the TBI and my 2.8 isn't that guys 2.8L, so why the hell do i care if you beat him or not, nor should you care if a TBI gets beat, does it make you feel like less a man to get beat buy someone with 350, or a 2.8L, heck i've had 4 cyls make good runs with me on the street, but i've still pulled off the win, and once again, this is a street race, not a track race, different things happen on the roads that'll never happen on the track. If you take a F*rd Focus (the "fast" kind) and then put it up against me, we'll race and he'd supposedly beat me, yet on the other hand, i already beat one of these rides on the street, so what's that prove, nothing. Street racing is for fun, ****s and giggles, nothing more, nor should it be thought of as anything more. If you want to compete go bracket racing, no one should ever leave a street race pissed off. They should smile as the 2.8L guy did, and then go about their buisness.

Monkie

Oh god, Kyle is back.

Oh so you did beat a 2.8L or 3.1L WITH the 5 speed??? Wow, I dont believe that at all. First off the manual is rare in the fbodys of our years. Second like I said just because you beat it doesnt mean you can beat mine. Just remember my year was the fastest V6 of the 3rd gen era. And second stock Ive got 140 HP and 185 torque. So yea you might be right I might only have 130 HP now. I doubt it but who knows. And about the Z28 exhaust...When I bought my car I talked to the person who owned it before me and she said that the old single outlet exhaust had rusted out or something and she just went ahead and put dual stainless steel exhaust on it. Im not gonna sit here like an idiot and argue with you over if your car can beat mine or not. I really could care less. But ya know what I would bet my title on is that my car looks 4 times nicer than yours. And to me...thats what counts my friend. At a stop light speed doesnt get heads turning (maybe a cop's) but looks do. And damn do I got you there! And about your "race" in a weeks time you are telling me you found a V6, T5 3rd gen that wanted to race you??? Right, I believe that for about a.....woops I just stopped believing it. Sorry!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Tas

Jason E

Kyle,

I will be more than happy to get you started if you're telling me an Escort GT handles better than a Camaro RS.

As I previously posted, you telling me that means that your Escort GT handles better than a Mustang GT too, because we all know an RS handles better than a 'Stang GT. I know this because I have DRIVEN both, in showroom condition. So are you telling me that your Escort handles better than a Mustang GT too? I don't think so...why the hell would Ford do that?? Does a Z24 handle better than a Z28? Uh, no. So why would Ford make the Escort GT better handling than the Mustang GT?

I have PROOF Kyle that an RS handles better than an Escort GT. Want that proof? I have every back-issue of Motor Trend dating back to June '79, and I have a 5/90 issue with BOTH the new for '91 Camaro RS and Escort GT (same style as yours). Both tests have skidpad and slalom numbers, and the RS ate the Escort. Can your Escort GT pull .90g on the skidpad?

I don't think so. I'll believe Motor Trend over all else.

Monkie

Come on guys, have you not figured out that Kyle WILL NOT believe any of us unless we agree with him? You are waisting your time. Just agree with him so he will stop crying!! Its giving me a headache!! UGH!!

Ok Kyle you win...You can out run me both on the highway and the mountain roads. Now please shut up!

Tas

the Escort seems like a drag racer and a canyon carver because its a friggen soap box. If I put you in a shopping cart and rolled you down a big hill it would seem like the fastest thing ever wouldn't it? big cars like thidgens are decievingly fast. ever driven a caddy? you're doing 80 and didn't know it. same senario.

Monkie

LOL, 160!!!!!!

Ovrclck350

Ok Kyle, you're car is faster than ours. I don't car. We get more chicks in ours than you do in yours so and Beat that. And for anyone who's sexual preference may be different (I hope not), our cars at least ATTRACT more chicks than your Escort. LOL, that's the only kind of girl you could get with that POS anyways....

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92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....

DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!

AIM name OVRCLCK350

Kyle F

Well now see someone sayes they are faster than you and you can't believe them. Now come on I said the Escort was not stock, just that I have not put a lot of money in it. Like I said before last summer I could run consistant mid 15's in the 1/4. So yea I think I could take most V6 f-bodys in the Third Gen era. Another thing is yes I do believe my Eascort will out handle a Mustang GT or a Camaro RS because I have done suspension work on this car because when I first got the car I really didn't want to work on the motor. Then I decided I wanted to shut some of my ***** friends up because everytime I would outrun their car they would give me the same BS excuses like you have twise the motor as me or other crap like that. SO then I went to work and I can beat some of them now where as others beat me, but I see no reason for NOS on my daily driver. I am just one of those people that even if I had an 3cyl Metro I would still be modifying it somehow to run better than stock. So I can feel comfortable when I say I can beat Monkies car w/ my Escort brcause he has done no big mods that are worth that much, Now say he drops that 3.8L turbo in, screw mw I going to lose miserably, and even if I can out handle him it wont do me any good becasue he will more than make up for the time difference with the powew on the straights. Im not saying V6's cant be fast, all I am saying is tha I find it hard to believe that Monkies car is going to out run a 305 TBI, unless it is running poorly, which once he stated that it was and the Mustng GT was not in the best shape, I said fine ok that is all I wanted to hear because I don't think you are out running ones in really good shape.

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86 Trans Am 355 TPI Rebuilt 700R4 with Corvette servo, modified valve body, and a B&M Torque Converter (2000 rpm stall w/ lock up), 87 350 block bored .30 with new crank, bearings, rings, and magnafluxed rods. Reworked 305 heads with 3-angle valve job. Added in the rebuild was an SLP TPI cam, BBK 58mm Throttle Body,SVO 24# injectors,MSD 6A, Hypertech Power Coil, 1.5 Crane roller tipped rocker arms, SLP Intake Runners and Port matching in upper intake including fully ported plenum, TPIS adjustable fuel pressure regulator @ 46psi, Hooker shorty style headers w/ Thermotech heat wrapping, Custom 3” exhaust with Flowmaster muffler and chrome quad tips, Hypertech Thermomaster Computer chip, K&N open element cone filter on modified MAF per TPIS specs, MSD Wires, removal of A/C hardware and a 1LE firewall cover installed. Also there has been a PST front suspension kit with Hotchkis strut tower brace
http://geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Garage/9548/kyle.html

Kills:
95 Talon TSI, 96 Probe GT, 91 T/A L98, 89 RS, 86 Mustang GT, 88 Mustang LX 5.0, 92 Thunderbird V8. couple or ricers that I think were Civics or Preludes not sure what year, 95 Celica GT-S, 94 Chevy 1/4 ton 350, one of those NASCAR F150's

Monkie

You are 110% right Kyle. Ya got us.

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

AIM screen name - Stopsign696
Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

ONEFINE8T9

KYLE, *** UR RATTY *** ESCORT! U CAN NOT BEAT N E 2.8 OR 3.1 F BODY THATS WORTH OF ****! ESPECIALLY A 5 SPD ONE. I TOOK SOME KID IN AN ESCORT IN A 2000 SUNFIRE. HE HAD A 5 SPD TOO. MY FRIEND STOMPS ME IN HIS 3.1 BIRD,AUTO . DO U SEE THE CONNECTION????

BTW i see u live in ohio. U are aware it is december right? well wasnt there a rather large snow storm over the last week? in fact last night it was pretty bad. (i watch the weather channel) so i would like to call BS on ur race with the firebird. n e one with half a brain wouldnt be out raceing around in that weather let alone in an f bod. damn its people like u i luv to see at a red light

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1989 pontiac firebird
bright red exterior(just repainted)
grey interior
5 spd
305 TBI (stock)
WS.6 formula wheels
3.73 posi rear end
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system: 2 10" MTX thunder 2000 in a Professionally done custom bandpass box.
Blaupunkt CD player
Blaupunkt 4x6 and 6x9
600 watt rockford fosgate 4.6 amp

http://members.aol.com/j007golden/Mikey89.html

Monkie

Oh now come on. Dont calls Kyle's race BS. Everyone on this board knows Kyles car can not be beat by any 2.8L or 3.1L. That just like there is no way in hell I can beat a 94 Mustang GT. And you should know Kyle's car can glide across the road so thats how he did so well in the snow. Ive called all of Kyle's replies BS! He just runs his mouth non stop.

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

AIM screen name - Stopsign696
Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

TOG5

hey guys, i am new at this board stuff....question for ya..what can I do to a '90 Fbird, 3.1L, auto, T-tops to give it more power. also looking for places to get stuff, ie. hood, wheels, etc. can ne1 help??????????

Monkie

The best info I or anyone else can give you is stick around here and check the site EVERYDAY (this is a fast moving message board) and also look back at older post. Your Fbird is alot like my RS so I would take a look at my sig and try some stuff I did. I am very pleased. Oh and the very first thing to do before you start with mods is a full tune up. It will make the mods that much better. The very first mod you should do is a K&N air filter. It will give you the "mod bug". And then you will be one of us and you will get hooked. Welcome aboard!!!



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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

AIM screen name - Stopsign696
Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Kyle F

Hmm its funny I live here and I didn't see any snow on the groun that day. It doesn't matter anyway when the V8 comes out of the garage in the spring I can just watch all the 3.1's and 2.8's stare and wish they had either my Trans Am or my Brothers RS because they have wimpy v6's. Before you say anything explain to me why the don't use them anymore. They use the 3.4 or 3.8 in everything now.

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86 Trans Am 355 TPI Rebuilt 700R4 with Corvette servo, modified valve body, and a B&M Torque Converter (2000 rpm stall w/ lock up), 87 350 block bored .30 with new crank, bearings, rings, and magnafluxed rods. Reworked 305 heads with 3-angle valve job. Added in the rebuild was an SLP TPI cam, BBK 58mm Throttle Body,SVO 24# injectors,MSD 6A, Hypertech Power Coil, 1.5 Crane roller tipped rocker arms, SLP Intake Runners and Port matching in upper intake including fully ported plenum, TPIS adjustable fuel pressure regulator @ 46psi, Hooker shorty style headers w/ Thermotech heat wrapping, Custom 3” exhaust with Flowmaster muffler and chrome quad tips, Hypertech Thermomaster Computer chip, K&N open element cone filter on modified MAF per TPIS specs, MSD Wires, removal of A/C hardware and a 1LE firewall cover installed. Also there has been a PST front suspension kit with Hotchkis strut tower brace
http://geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Garage/9548/kyle.html

Kills:
95 Talon TSI, 96 Probe GT, 91 T/A L98, 89 RS, 86 Mustang GT, 88 Mustang LX 5.0, 92 Thunderbird V8. couple or ricers that I think were Civics or Preludes not sure what year, 95 Celica GT-S, 94 Chevy 1/4 ton 350, one of those NASCAR F150's

Monkie

Kyle................shut up!

Ovrclck350

Kyle, I don't care that you have a Trans-Am or an RS. If I wouldn't have wanted one, I'd have bought one. And as long as we're talking about unfinished projects which may never get done (your v8), I'll let you cough on my white smoke when i put my 454 Big Block in my Firebird. So just suck on that.


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92 Bird 3.1L Auto
Best $750 I ever spent....

DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT!

Kills:
93 Mustang LX (Before Mods)
AIM name OVRCLCK350

Monkie

And Kyle, you can suck on my turbo if you can catch it buddy!


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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

AIM screen name - Stopsign696
Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Graeme'sFirebird

yea suck on my tt's ...(btw yea ill try it, what the hell...)

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Flowmaster 80 series, Random Technologies Cat, 3" intermediate pipe, SS
Hand Made Tips, 3 1/4" out, Accel 8.8 wires, MSD Coil, MSD Ignition Module,MSD 6A Box, Air Intake Temp Guage, Brushed Aluminum Hood Pins
Currently Working On:
T5 swap
Next to buy:
Slp dual cold air intake!
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My Site:
www.geocities.com/firebird89white

" I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT run at all ".

Kyle F

UM ok put that 454 in your car. See ya at the nest turn. Oh wait youll never make it out of it I guess I should say good bye at the next turn, Monkie get a turbo you will need it to beat me. Nah it will neve happen either.

85f-bird

they don't use 2.8's and 3.1's any more. My friends lumina has a 3100 engine in it, that's 3.1L and it's only about 2 years old. But hey, the also don't use that 305 that's in your bros RS do they, um, lets see, no. And being that a 3.4L is a 2.8L block, i'd say that our motor lasted a nice long while in the f-bodys. But hey, all great things come to an end, heck, the 350 is now 346 ci, the 454 isn't around nor the 455, don't see to many pontiac 400's cruising the streets in 2000 T/A's do you. Oh yeah, and those new vettes, you know with the 427's they're great aren't they, wait, they don't make a vette with a 427 do they? damn.

Kyle F

Brothers 305 is out of the car right now buddy. Yes I forgot about the other cars I meant the performance ones Not luminas

Kyle F

Oh yea Pontiac engines all got the ax because of coporate downsizing, Other ones well were pre emissions and the could not possibly make them now and sale them legaly.

Monkie

Kyle it doesnt matter how ****ty his car will handle he will get to the turn a day before you ever will. The 454 will blow your damn doors off dumb *** ! And my car will STILL handle better than yours. Retard!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Kyle F

Now you are saying that your awesome RS will out handle a WS6 equiped Trans Am with a PST kit on it and p245/50ZR 16's? Oh my it is getting deep now. YOu say you can beat everything of mine. OH well I guess your right because my car is in the garage and its not coming out till spring so I can do more intake porting. So yea with the enigne torn apart and only having fred flintstone power I supose you will out handle me.
I have seen a few Third Gens with Big blocks in them and the problem was the were to front heavy(which is already a problem) and the 454's they used were more torque than HP. NOw the one I saw with a 427 was BAD A$$ ran lke a low 11 sec 1/4

Jason E

Kyle, do us a favor,

Get your immature as* off the V6 board if all you can do is knock a V6. Who the hell are you to come on here and talk sh*t, eh??

And as for your stupid T/A, I don't really give a sh*t how fast it is. Your obnoxious behavior keeps me from even remotely caring what you have to say. I'll be happy to shut you up when I get my IROC 350 in another year.

And if you don't believe I'm gonna get one and decide to talk crap about me never getting one, I'll be happy to have you know I could easily afford a mint example right now. But for some reason, I find grad school is a little more important than buying a second car. Hell, did you even go to college? By your stupidity, apparently you have not...and if you have, you sure as hell remained a rather ignorant person. How else can you explain a V8 owner who comes on the V6 board and makes fun of the owners?

So if you have nothing decent to say, keep your as* off the V6 board and do us all a favor.

And bring your tarted-up Escort up to MA...I'll be happy to blow it into the weeds with my 2.8 'Cause I'll be damned if some immitation rice-rocket owner is gonna come on here and tell me that his FWD economy car is gonna beat a Camaro on a windy road. I don't think so...

Kyle F

Awwww **** Im back
Yea its hard to make it through Collefge I supose, but then again college isn't for everyone and especially not grad school. Im not on her to just make fun of V6 owners. Only those who claim stupid things like My 2.8 out ran a mustang GT when he knows its a lie. I would gladly race you, but only if there is money on it because I don't feel like wasting my gas money to prove the damn truth. Did you not read my Escort is running 15.5's I supose you wipmpy 2.8 will do that. Also thank you for making the point that if you could get a good V8 you would. My whole point earlier. I love the post saying I chose one and then they say because I couldn't afford/find or insure a V8.
Oh by the way Im a mechanical Engineer at a Company that is payin for me to get my masters in MEchanicall Engineering, what are you going for under water basket weaving?

Monkie

Well jesus christ college musta been made for you....oh wait you cant spell! WTF is Collefge? Is this like a super fast version of the escort that you have? Or is it that "T/A" you have?



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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Monkie

When I get the TCed 3.8L.....hell yea Im saying that. Because you wont ever catch me to see if you can handle better than me. You think you can get into the 12s with me? If so let me turn the boost up to about 30 PSI. Ok what about now Kyle, Im running about 11 sec on the 1/4. See where Im going. Ive got power with a flick of a switch. You have....thats right nothing! Unless you bring out that big *** Escort. Then I wouldnt dare mess with you.



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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Monkie

Go back to retard school! All chevy engines have more torque than HP! DUH! AGAIN



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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

FAST RS

God cant we all just get along why does every one have to argue we are all prouse F-Body owners so just chill... Also this whle 305 race thing should be killed lol its gone from gutting cats to this and that and on and on and on and i hate waiting 20 frekin mins to load this geesh

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Kyle F

Well this would have been locked a long time ago if it wan't monkies post./ Have you ever noticed he can post anything that is non tech and it doesn't get locked, like "whats everyones ages?" I was wondering why it hadn't been locked a long time ago, but if anyone else post something that is not 100% tech and about a V6 it is locked in no time.

Monkie

Cause when I post non tech stuff it is either serving a purpose or it isnt stupid like your non tech stuff.

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

85f-bird

I'll have to agree with Monkie, a 2000 T/A WS6 still isn't going to run against a 89TTA. The TTA is regarded as being the fastest production Trans Am ever built. And heck, if they want to they can bump the boost which wouldn't be considered a mod, they're simply perfecting what's stock on the motor. It's a helluva engine, and a helluva car. That's why TTA's are still selling for 15k to 25k. Some even higher. I think the biggest problem with you Kyle, is that you don't believe that there's a replacement for displacement. And that Turbo, is the replacement, and it does one helluva job.

importfighter00

Kyle bring your Escort down to Ga and I'll put down 100 bucks that I kill your car by a 1-2 car lengths. If Monkie can kill a 305 in his 3000+ lb car (which I don't doubt that he did and he WILL hand you your butt in a race), take that engine, put it in a 2800 lb Z24 and I'll smoke you even worse. I even have more mods than Monkie(no flame intended Monkie). We are in the same class, sport compact, so what are you afraid of?

Lets race!

Aaron

Kyle F

OK I said nothing about there being a replacement or not for it. I love the TTA ansd will buy one some day in the future when I can find one that is in my price range that I can fix up to a Show car, like Concourse class. Anyways. I am not afraid to race no damn z24, civic or neaon or anyother ****ing car, I would race a viper just for fun and to see how fast one actually would take off( No I don't think I can beat a Viper, unlike Monkies V6) Arron what time does you car run? I am running a 15.5 on a consitant basis with street tires on my Escort and a 13.9 in my Trans Am. If I am ever in another state I will be sure to post it on here. YOu guys don't read enought before posting. I said above I would like a 3.8T GN GNX or TTA.

Monkie

Sigh......."Hey everyone Im Kyle and Im a ****ing dumb *** !"


Why the hell do you put EVERYONE'S ride down? I mean damn a Escort....Im sorry but I dont see why you are so proud of it. Wooooo, you run a constant 15.5. Would you like a ****ing cookie? Man I would love to race you. Beat your *** , point and laugh, and I bet you would STILL talk ****. "Oh Monkie I missed a gear, Ill get you next time. Because Im a big ***** that loves to talk ****." DAMN stupid people **** me off!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Ovrclck350

Kyle, shut up already.

Jason E

Actually Kyle, underwater basket weaving isn't offered at UMass Amherst. So I decided to go for something a little more useful, like accounting.

And my ownership of a V6 has nothing to do with me not being able to afford a decent V8. The car has been in the family since new, and if I hadn't bought it from my parents it would have been traded in years ago. I didn't want to let the car get out of the family so I kept it. The IROC will come.

And I don't give a flying fu*k what your Escort does in the 1/4. Sure, I can't pull a 15.5 in my near-stock, "wimpy" V6. But how stock is your Escort? A bone stock GT is about a 16.4 runner, not 15.5. And you seem to COMPLETELY miss the point of my race offer by telling me about your lousy 1/4 times. I said a ROAD race, not a 1/4 mile run. I don't care what your car pulls in the 1/4, 'cause it ain't gonna make a damn bit of difference on a twisty road. But I'm sure the riced out FWD Escort will keep up

And any supposed ME grad will at least check his posts for spelling. Sorry Kyle, my best friend is an ME major, and I hang with him and his friends all the time. At least they can write a proper message. Do you use those crappy literary skills when you give a proposal?? Your ignorance doesn't leave much of an impression on anyone.

Monkie

Hay evryone mi name is Kyel. LOL

importfighter00

OK Kyle you say you run a constant 15.5 yeah right!!! Like with nitrous and drag slicks maybe. Lets see time slips. Post em right here! I looked at all your Escort club sites and one guy said he ran a best of 16.7 in his GT. What year model do you have? Is it the turbo model? What kind of mods do you have. What do you mean you have a built Escort engine? What are the stock hp and tq #'s on your engine? I've never ran a 1/4 mi. but I do have dyno results. 110 hp @ 4600 rpm and 146 lbs of tq. @ 3600 rpm. Can you say holeshot? And my suspention is setup for drag racing so hooking up is not a problem. I'm not scared to race a Z24? Have you ever raced one in your escort? I'm not scared to race civics or neons? Hahaha. Like those were ever a threat to me stock?

Aaron
89 Z24
2.8L / 5 spd.

Kyle F

Yea I guess I check stuff I do at work for spelling Errors, but I don't feel like wasting time on a post to go back and fix something because Ihit the wrong key.
Yea sure I will road race you. Sure the engine isn't stock, but the again neither is the suspension.What makes you think that a stock V6 Cav is going to out handle me?
Anyways your one of those people who automatically know how fast a car is by what the emblem sayes arn't you? You think that because I have an Escort you Z24 is automatically faster. I don't think your cav is as fast as the new Z24's is it. It better be because I have no problems with those on any surface. So you automatically assume that no Third-gen will ever out handle a Corvette(besides Monkies cause ,well his car can do anything) I would kick you *** so bad in a street race.

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86 Trans Am 355 TPI Rebuilt 700R4 with Corvette servo, modified valve body, and a B&M Torque Converter (2000 rpm stall w/ lock up), 87 350 block bored .30 with new crank, bearings, rings, and magnafluxed rods. Reworked 305 heads with 3-angle valve job. Added in the rebuild was an SLP TPI cam, BBK 58mm Throttle Body,SVO 24# injectors,MSD 6A, Hypertech Power Coil, 1.5 Crane roller tipped rocker arms, SLP Intake Runners and Port matching in upper intake including fully ported plenum, TPIS adjustable fuel pressure regulator @ 46psi, Hooker shorty style headers w/ Thermotech heat wrapping, Custom 3” exhaust with Flowmaster muffler and chrome quad tips, Hypertech Thermomaster Computer chip, K&N open element cone filter on modified MAF per TPIS specs, MSD Wires, removal of A/C hardware and a 1LE firewall cover installed. Also there has been a PST front suspension kit with Hotchkis strut tower brace
http://geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Garage/9548/kyle.html

Kills:
95 Talon TSI, 96 Probe GT, 91 T/A L98, 89 RS, 86 Mustang GT, 88 Mustang LX 5.0, 92 Thunderbird V8. couple or ricers that I think were Civics or Preludes not sure what year, 95 Celica GT-S, 94 Chevy 1/4 ton 350, one of those NASCAR F150's ..... **** on Monkie
SOON TO BE A SUPER CHARGED TURBO WITH NOS ON A 500000 CU. IN engine

importfighter00

And I dont think that your escort is as fast as you say it is. Once again you list no yr. model, mods, nor post any timeslips. Ive already done all that in a previous post. In case you didnt see it, you can see them here: http://www.jcg.phobia.net/display.php3?id=4. Youve never listed anything about your car, besides the fact that you have suspention upgrades. You didnt even list those. You have to back up your claims.

Aaron

Monkie

He has you there Kyle. And from the calculater on another site if my car has what I think it does in HPs (168) and my car weighs 3500 pounds I should run a 15.8 on the 1/4 mile. So dont say I cant keep up with you cause everyone here knows u dont run constant 15.5s!

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come

Jason E

Ugh, Monkie...as much as I hate to even APPEAR that I'd side with Kyle, there is one adjustment I need to make.

Your car doesn't make 168HP. Not even close. You don't have anywhere near 28HP worth of bolt ons. And your car weighs no more than 3150, FYI. Don't go by calculators man

Oh and Kyle, bring that riced out POS on up here...I'll have a field day with your as*. And by the way, I think you're lying about being an ME grad and currently being in grad school. Why?? You clearly don't show the intelligence any ME grad would need in order to make it through the program. And I think you said somewhere you're 21 and currently going to grad school??? RIGHT...that means you graduated early with an ME...uh, I doubt it

Monkie

Oh, I was just guessint numbers. I was going by the TTAs they weighed 3440 lbs. And I went by the Z28 exhaust could give me 5hp (dynomax says they give you 10) and I figured the cold air gave me 10 HP. Thats 15 right there. And the TB coolant bypass give you 5 HP so thats 20HP more. So I was just guessing. But Jason it still hurts my feelings you went to the bad side...

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Cold/RAM air intake
Z-28 Exhaust
8.5mm MSD Ignition wires
TB Coolant bypass

Soon to be a 3.8L turbo RS

AIM screen name - Stopsign696

Kills:

95 (****) Probe GT
94 Mustang GT
91 CRX (dont ask me why he raced me)
2nd Gen Z28 (350) haha to you V8 guys!
1992 RS 305 TBI (good race)
More to come