Introducing a new wheel: The Boyd Coddington "1bad91Z" - Page 3 - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

1bad91Z · 07-22-2009, 05:38 PM

Nothing on the wheels are currently painted at all (see pics on the first post of page 1 of this thread). The entire set of wheels including both pieces of each center cap are all polished aluminum. If the circle in the center of the hex nut as well as the behind the spoke part of the rim, looks kinda black in the very first pic of the wheel, it's due to lighting (the angle at the which the pic was taken). All the painted areas that you've seen on the pics on page 2 have all been photoshopped to get a glimpse of what they would look like if they were customized further with some paint work.

Hopefully by this weekend, I'll have some more pics of the car in better quality and maybe in better lighting.....

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sailtexas186548 · 07-22-2009, 05:49 PM

yea mike you've gotta put a little black on those bad boys, i think just the center caps and the little grooves in black black would be perfect.

even all polished, sick wheels

DeathMetalTony · 07-22-2009, 10:33 PM

burnout88 · 07-22-2009, 11:33 PM

Can you please post a photo of the car with a straight side shot, not at an angle. Please!!

1bad91Z · 07-23-2009, 01:00 AM

DeathMetalTony - Thanks for the photoshop and great job!! A friend of mine with a white 92 1-LE will get a kick out that when he sees it!

Other than some older pics of just the rear rim bolted to the car, I've posted all the current pics that I have! I will take more this weekend and I'll take some straight shots of the car of driver and passenger side.

tony_cogliandro · 07-23-2009, 01:11 AM

i agree bad - death did a good job. maybe he will do it in black now - to match that very fine ride of yours.
but even in white it shows how color sets off the design and also composition as it relates to the size of each component.
in other words - it looks darn good.

1bad91Z · 07-23-2009, 01:30 AM

He did one in black on page two (the first one he posted).

If I were to do anything to them, I would go with silver accents with pearl in it, then clear coat just the painted areas. Then maybe use a "factory" centercap's black medallion with the Camaro logo and epoxy that onto the billet hex nut. That would bring the wheel pretty close to a polished factory wheel.

But "if" I do that, it'll be way later on. I'm still enjoying them as they are!

1bad91Z · 07-28-2009, 12:55 AM

Kind of a cool shot of the car....

robertfrank · 07-28-2009, 04:26 AM

That is now my new desktop background. Sweet pic!!

omnipotentgoku · 07-28-2009, 06:25 PM

Big Up's to you for putting for the effort to bring back the love of third gens. Third gen wheels were some of the mos influential wheels ever made.

1bad91Z · 07-29-2009, 12:29 AM

I agree!

Also, I really do like the 17 inch and bigger IROC wheels, but to me that wheel doesn't look right on a 91-92 Z-28. So, I had to make my own wheels!

InfernalVortex · 07-29-2009, 05:33 AM

I cant get over how amazing that wheel looks... it's a shame I'll never be able to aford a whole set at once... hahaha.

Any idea how much they weigh?

burnout88 · 07-29-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bad91Z

DeathMetalTony - Thanks for the photoshop and great job!! A friend of mine with a white 92 1-LE will get a kick out that when he sees it!

Other than some older pics of just the rear rim bolted to the car, I've posted all the current pics that I have! I will take more this weekend and I'll take some straight shots of the car of driver and passenger side.

Still no straight on side shoot photos?

Uglybronco · 07-29-2009, 02:28 PM

I just thought I would add a comment since I got to see them in person Saturday.. They (of course) look great.. But they don't overpower you with "bling" like many of you are thinking. Like 1bad has said its mostly his camera's flash. Hell I don't know if I would have known they were anything other than polished stock had he not been teasing us all in the South Central board about his new wheels.
I guess some of this is just repeat but I figured I would throw my eyewitness opinion in here.

1bad91Z · 07-29-2009, 05:55 PM

They felt about the same weight as a stock, maybe a little heavier. Don't know actual weight..... but IMO, you use these wheels for looks, not to lower ET's at the track.

To answer another question I got.... Boyd supplies a lightweight billet wrench with the set of wheels to tighten and remove the centercap.

Also, I think the pricing is now available at Boyds for the wheels.

If someone here ends up getting a set, feel free to post pics here on this thread, I'd love to see how they look on other cars!

No good side shots yet. I went to a local show this weekend and my hatch motor quit working so I had to drive to the show with the damn hatch sticking up a few inches. As soon as I fix that, I'll take some good pics (I figured out how to turn the flash off on my new camera)!!

1989GTATransAm · 07-29-2009, 08:14 PM

I think the wheels look just fine. You are to be congratulated for seeing the project through as very few make it to completion.

Brisk · 07-30-2009, 07:46 AM

those look really nice, good work.

1bad91Z · 07-31-2009, 12:33 AM

THanks for the compliments!

RevItUpZ28 · 07-31-2009, 04:44 AM

I contacted Boyd and got pricing on the wheels.

$795 for the front
$805 for the rear

.....each.

That's about a grand more than I thought they would be. Gotta pay to play.

DeathMetalTony · 07-31-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bad91Z

THanks for the compliments!

Hey let me know when you get a good side shoot or so, I would like to do a photoshop of the wheels in color.

Tony.

1bad91Z · 07-31-2009, 08:35 AM

The pricing is comparable to their other wheels. Boyd wheels aren't cheap!

redxtreme02 · 07-31-2009, 02:28 PM

I WANT SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love boyd sr wheels...from whats these look like...I will like what boyd jr is doing

redxtreme02 · 07-31-2009, 02:36 PM

I would love them but 700 each is more than I can put out...My Blaster 5 where 450 each for 18's...I would do it if they were that much... o well they look great on your car bro

1bad91Z · 08-02-2009, 04:12 AM

Thanks for the compliment!

A friend of mine wants to get a set done from Boyd with the white accents, but I don't know if they will paint them....

one92rs · 08-02-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 1bad91Z

Thanks for the compliment!

A friend of mine wants to get a set done from Boyd with the white accents, but I don't know if they will paint them....

man for that price they had better paint them. hell i think they should fly down here and put them on. but they still look kick a**.

ssean92 · 08-02-2009, 10:06 AM

They look nice, but over priced Boyd stuff, like all his stuff.

Daytona T/A · 08-02-2009, 05:40 PM

Personally, I like 'em. Good option for people who don't want a really custom look but still want to set the car off a bit.

BlueZee28 · 08-02-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 1bad91Z

Well, an enlarged stock look is what "I" was going for. Similar to all the people that put the larger aftermarket IROC wheels on their cars. These people including myself appreciate the stock design, but would like to run a bigger tire. Since my car isn't an IROC, it's a 1991 Z-28, I wanted my wheel to look year correct.

Cheers

I think a lot of people, including myself, would love to have a larger "year correct" look in a 17" wheel, but I agree that there is too much bling on those wheels. If it were the regular aluminum/silver painted inner spoke design like the originals, I think a lot of people (myself included) would be very fond of them. If Boyd decided to make those wheels in a non-chrome design, I would probably line up for a set....even though I currently have chrome wheels on both my Camaro's

BlueZee28 · 08-02-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RevItUpZ28

I contacted Boyd and got pricing on the wheels.

$795 for the front
$805 for the rear

.....each.

That's about a grand more than I thought they would be. Gotta pay to play.

Ummmm ok, wow. I retract my previous statement, no way on earth would I pay $3,000 for a set of 4 wheels that look like 17" chrome replica wheels. If I'm going to spend that much on wheels it's going to be Fikse FM5's....or even Ronal R15's. Sorry man, I knew Boyd over-priced his stuff, but that is overkill in my opinion. It's not even a real original design, like you said, he took a factory style wheel and put a bigger lip on it and added an inch in diameter.

Ca[maro]88 · 08-02-2009, 07:05 PM

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Ummmm ok, wow. I retract my previous statement, no way on earth would I pay $3,000 for a set of 4 wheels that look like 17" chrome replica wheels.

they are not chrome. idk how many times hes said they arnt chrome

THEYRE NOT CHROME

that wasnt pointed towards you BlueZee thats for everybody in the future that wants to call them chrome.

they are BILLET ALUMINUM.
he said the camera flash makes it look brighter than it is.

1bad91Z · 08-04-2009, 12:03 PM

To all who say "too much bling", you should see them in person. Lighting and also the camera flash does bling up a picture that you see on a computer screen.

Not that I think the pics look bad, but they look even better in person, IMO....

As far as pricing, they are comparable to the pricing of other Boyd wheels. If you want the factory look and or painted accents, I'm sure they could accomodate that request for a fee.

BlueZee28 · 08-04-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca[maro]88

they are not chrome. idk how many times hes said they arnt chrome

THEYRE NOT CHROME

that wasnt pointed towards you BlueZee thats for everybody in the future that wants to call them chrome.

they are BILLET ALUMINUM.
he said the camera flash makes it look brighter than it is.

Fine, they're not chrome. They're billet aluminum...yet they're still too flashy for being a "year correct replica".

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Originally Posted by 1bad91Z

As far as pricing, they are comparable to the pricing of other Boyd wheels. If you want the factory look and or painted accents, I'm sure they could accomodate that request for a fee.

I think that's the point that some of us have made already, they cost as much as other Boyd wheels (way overpriced). And to get the wheel most of us would REALLY like to have (aluminum/painted inner spokes like stock), we'd have to pay even more. They cost way too much. Like I said, for the money you can have a super light weight set of Fikse wheels, that in my opinion, look a lot better. Just my $0.02.

1bad91Z · 08-04-2009, 10:51 PM

It's not an exact replica, it's only based off of a 91-92 wheel... It's been modernized too much to be called "replica".

If you like the "exact" factory look better, then run a factory wheel. But then you're limited to a 16 inch wheel.

Here's your challenge..... find another wheel company to make ANY sort of 17 inch version of the 91-92 Z-28 wheel for less than $800.00 a wheel. Good luck!

Orr89RocZ · 08-04-2009, 11:29 PM

Price is more than I thought but i'd expect a custom wheel to be expensive like that. Any chances of group purchase or will price go down after some time based on orders?
Is this a limited production run?

sailtexas186548 · 08-05-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueZee28

Fine, they're not chrome. They're billet aluminum...yet they're still too flashy for being a "year correct replica".

they are not "too flashy" at all, like he's said, the pics make them look way more bling-ed out than they are, you really have to see them in person to like them imo

Jason89RS · 08-05-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RevItUpZ28

I contacted Boyd and got pricing on the wheels.

$795 for the front
$805 for the rear

.....each.

Holy ****! I was thinking about $500 on the high side and even at that I couldn't afford those. Honestly at that price I wouldn't even mount those....I would just take them out of the boxes and put them in my living room with a piece of glass over them as a coffee table.

Guess I'll stick with my OE 91-92 wheels.

1bad91Z · 08-05-2009, 08:31 AM

I guess it would depend on how many sets they would have to sell in order to offer a price break as far as the group purchase goes.

Call Vanessa at Boyds and run it by her. She could probably setup a GP if you could get the buyers together.

Jgolden314 · 08-06-2009, 12:52 PM

Been a long time since I've been around, but I LOVE them! Very nice.

luke j · 08-06-2009, 10:14 PM

I think they look awesome also. I would agree that they are a bit too flashy for my tastes, but the car looks absolutely amazing. The ones with the gray accents look very good also. The few camaros I have seen with crosslace wheels looked very nice also. I thought some camaros came with the black crosslace wheels, maybe 1le or something?

Abubaca · 08-09-2009, 12:25 AM

Right off the bat, I've gotta say that I'm not a fan of the 91-92 wheel design in any size, or any finish.

That being said, it's just my opinion, and I have the utmost respect for your determination and dedication to doing what is necessary to get what you want. I'm so sick and tired of how "WE" the thirdgen community complain about getting our respect from other car guys like vettes, imports, fords, whatever etc. etc. yet we complain about anything that requires a little money, effort, or thinking outside the box.

Too expensive you say? fine, that's cool, I understand. I can't afford everything I want either. But go to the shows or the cruise ins, and the respect and looks go to the guys who go the extra mile. Heck, my car ain't perfect either, but it's one part, one mod, one dollar at a time. As has been said time and time again, gotta pay to play. I couldn't imagine "settling" for something on my car. Oh sure, I'll wait while I save up, but the term "too expensive" just doesn't cut it. I'd rather see someone with wheels they didn't like who was saving, than someone who "settles". ...and if you DO SETTLE, man up and keep your mouth shut when someone else WON'T settle, and pays for what HE wants.

99 percent of the threads in A&D are people asking how to do the same old mods that have been done a hundred times. Or hey, check out my new 17" wheels that EVERYONE else has. Ho-hum, blah. Hey look, another guy on TGO with z06 rims. Whatever. yawn. Same ole same old. Not many people actually think anymore.

1Bad91z, you da man! Good for you. You had the same choices as the rest of us, you didn't like them, and you knew what you wanted so you went out and made it happen. That's more than most will ever do.

Stephen · 08-09-2009, 12:45 AM

Well..He found a vendor willing to make them, despite other interested parties.

I gave up, after going from vendor to vendor, to make 18"+ GTA crosslaces wheels, even when I had a list of others waiting to buy them.

I gave up on getting a Jongbloed-style hood for the Firebirds. Again, despite having a list of interested parties, no vendor was willing to make the hoods either.

How he got a vendor to make those wheels, is beyond me. I doubt Boyds will sell even half as many of those, as they would 18"+ crosslace wheels.

My 17" Snypers are why I "settled" on them. Turned away by vendor after vendor on the wheels.

Abubaca · 08-09-2009, 01:39 AM

At the end of the day, sometimes we all have to "settle". ...it's just that in this case he didn't have to, yet somehow some people see him going the extra mile as a bad thing. Not sure I understand that, but hey, some people prefer the easy way. I'm just saying don't beat him up for going the extra mile.

Ca[maro]88 · 08-09-2009, 03:21 AM

yeah the wheels are expensive.. very expensive. ill be the first to say id never EVER spend the money for wheels like that. BUT if i had the money, why not!!! wouldnt you like to have something NOBODY else has? and have it made to your EXACT specifications. i can almost guarentee if you could afford it, youd do it. i know i would

Brisk · 08-09-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Abubaca

1Bad91z, you da man! Good for you. You had the same choices as the rest of us, you didn't like them, and you knew what you wanted so you went out and made it happen. That's more than most will ever do.

well said Abubaca, well said.

1bad91Z · 08-09-2009, 11:54 AM

I've looked at wheels for my car since I bought it over 10-11 years ago. There were a couple of wheels that looked decent, but I still liked the 91-92 factory wheels better. So I paid to have a wheel built that I really wanted. I could have made it to where they weren't available AT ALL for anyone else to buy. But, I set it up to make this available to all of you in case some of you didn't want to settle on a 4thgen or vette wheel like I almost did.

Stephen - what do you mean by " despite other interested parties "....???

I found 5 MFG's that would have built them including your crosslace wheels. But if you guys are complaining about $800.00 wheel, then you REALLY couldn't afford the other 4 MFG's pricing!!!

Stephen · 08-09-2009, 12:02 PM

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Stephen - what do you mean by " despite other interested parties "....???

"other interested parties" as in...I wasn't the only one ready to buy.

They all wanted a minimum # of pre-paid orders, with no pre-production piece to see. Not even a CAD rendering, of the final product.

Too much skepticism from buyers to trust them to build correctly and not end up "well, that is as close as we could get"....Not wanting what they built & being stuck with it, since they already had the $.

And that was at almost HALF the $ for what Boyd's wants for "your" wheels.

grngryoutmyway · 08-09-2009, 12:42 PM

Those are Bad! I'm glad someone finally did this. As others said there expensive and I can't afford them either. But cars has and will always be a game of you can't pay, you cant play! You are not going to see these anywhere else. Same thing with crosslace wheels, someone will make them, you just have to pay. This guy was willing to spend what I'm sure was a lot of time convincing Boyd's to make these and it's what I would consider a very cool upgrade of a stock weel. Not for everyone? Nothing is! Cudos for getting this done man, ver nice final product. Another one of those maybe someday parts...

1bad91Z · 08-09-2009, 02:38 PM

No company will build a "custom" wheel for cheap, which is what alot of people who own these cars expect or could afford.

I paid for the rendering and programming upfront. Then I made a couple of tweaks until the rendering was what I wanted it to be. Then I paid for the wheels to be built. It wasn't cheap by any means. But, I knew exactly what I was going to get before they even cranked up the CNC machine. You guys are getting a deal at $800.00 a wheel and that includes the 2 piece billet center cap which was 3 separate programs by itself (outer ring, threaded hex nut and ball mill scripting). The program for the wheel design itself was an additional program. The programmer has to design the wheel in the 3D rendering program, then it gets sent to the CNC programmer which has to know what the hell he's doing to make that machine cut out exactly what the rendering looks like. Programmers make $$$$$$. There were alot of hours into the renderings and 4 CNC programs. Plus the cost of materials and labor to build the wheels and centercaps, including the polishing.

I could have the crosslace wheels started next week if you had the funds in order and you wouldn't even need a minimum number of orders for the wheels. But don't expect "cheap" to get the job done.

I'll dig up a picture or two of the renderings and post them if you guys care to see those...

johnnyph1 · 08-10-2009, 12:37 AM

yeah no doubt cool but 18" gta's they'd come runnin' myself included

1bad91Z · 08-10-2009, 12:52 AM

They all say that until it's time to shell out the cash. I've been on the boards quite awhile and have seen it time and time again....