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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Has anyone had any experiance with the BMR chassis and suspension products that Thunder Racing sells. I'm building a 90 bird for about 500 - 600 hp. If anyone has other suggestions for manufacturers, it would be appreciated.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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I have there adj. panhard rod,, no complaints,, and there lower control arm relocating brackets, I would not get them again, the weld in ones don't have the spacers welded into the inside like the spohn ones do. Not a big problem enless you don't have the meens to make you'r own.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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For the most part, I like their stuff. Good quality (even though they don't make their own parts). I haven't had any issues yet.

I have BMR front & rear sway bars, adjustable panhard bar, adjustable torque arm and LCA bolt-on/welded relocation brackets...
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Scott C-2
For the most part, I like their stuff. Good quality (even though they don't make their own parts). I haven't had any issues yet.

I have BMR front & rear sway bars, adjustable panhard bar, adjustable torque arm and LCA bolt-on/welded relocation brackets...
Who makes it? they are just a distributor?
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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I don't know who they have making their parts, but when I called to ask why my front swaybar didn't fit, the BMR Guy told me that he would "check with his supplier" and get back to me...He sent a replacement that fit, that's all I know.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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I have the BMR

LCA relocation brackets

Spherical Race LCA's

Spherical Moly adj PHR

3 Point STB

And soon enough i'll be getting a set of their swaybars.

I'd say the swaybars is the only thing they dont make "in house" i've been to their old facility, and recently to their new shop which is quite large and impressive.

The comment about them not having a spacer between the brackets... wheres my BS flag ... ah yes here it is
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 04:23 AM
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check you'r facts first befor you call BS on me,, They DO NOT have the proper spacers to fit correctlly. The bolt in one do but the weld in ones don't.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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O.K. for those of you who would like the facts,,

here are the bolt in ones from BMR inside the blue circle you will see the spacers welded into the inside to make the width correct .... and in the fallowing picture you will see the weld in ones,, they DO NOT have the width corrected with anything, these are the ones I bought and I didn't want to fill that gap with washers so I had to make spacers to go in them so the control arms would fit in tightlly.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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here are the weld in ones.....
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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here are the spohn ones, they also have the inside spacers in them.

HERE

And if I remember correctlly they are also cheaper than the BMRs
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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The spacers are shown in the picture of the BMR ones right above the nuts. Now pipe down oh bright one, they're installed on my car and fit fine.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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The spacers are shown in the picture of the BMR ones right above the nuts. Now pipe down oh bright one, they're installed on my car and fit fine.
You're pretty dense guy. scott's85T/A just laid down the evidence and you didn't even bother to read his posts.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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Upon further inspection it looks like you are complaining about the washers they include for between the bracket and the bushing, or spherical bearing spacers, they still fit correctly with what they include, and do make their parts in house, however I dont doubt that they have the swaybars made elsewhere.

Dont argue with me about them fitting or not, they are on my car and fit just fine along with the rest.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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You're pretty dense guy. scott's85T/A just laid down the evidence and you didn't even bother to read his posts.
They're powdercoated, it ISNT that visible.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Don't take it so personally Z28*****, I'm sure you didn't desighn them. Clearlly you decided to use washers to fill the gap, thats fine , I have the same ones on my car, I didn't want to do that. I never said they wouldn't fit, or work, like i said in my first post, it's not a big problem. I made a plate to weld into each side of mine but I would just have bought a diffrent kind if I would have noticed this befor I bought mine, it's just extra work, when the spohn ones are cheaper anyway.( I got mine in a package deal through thunder racing)

The guy asked for peoples experiance with the BMR products, this is something that I feel would make alot of diffrence in someones decision to buy these, especally if they don't have access to the material to do it right, and then have to pay a shop more money to do it for them.
Or,,, they could fill that gap with 3 or 4 washers on each one.
I wonder why Spohn dosn't just send 8 extra washers with theres?
I'm not badmouthing the BMR brackets, I'm happy with mine, these are just things people should know, befor they buy, washers may be just fine in there.

My point is you called BS ,, you were wrong.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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Some people don't know when to shut up and let things go (cough)Z28*****
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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Anyway, thanks for all of the input. I just hadn't reallyt heard of anything about BMR before. It sounds like they have a decent product.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Some people don't know when to shut up and let things go (cough)Z28*****

HELLO ? are you too stupid to read what he first said, he completely neglected to mention they did include a washer for each side to center the control arm, it does the EXACT same thing as the little plate he welded in, wow his are welded it isnt helping him any, geeeze some people dont know when to shut up and see someone posting false information.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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Please tell me what is false about anything I said..
I can see how you having spherical race LCA's wouldn't be a problem using washers,you don't have bushings,, but for the people who are using poly, or rubber,, they won't have there bushing touching anything more than that small washer, and one on each side will center it but it will still be to loose, it would take 2 on each side. I've allready been through all this. the LCA's are 2 3/8" wide the BMR brackets are 2 3/4", thats a 3/8" diffrence. (for those of us who are using poly).
I disagree with you that it is "the EXACT same thing.." it may be for you ,, but not for the people using anything other than spherical LCA's. the washer will not be touching the entire bushing. Like I said befor, this may be 100% O.K. but there is nothing false about anything I said,,,,so drop it.
If I knew there was going to be such a disagreement about it I wouldn't have said anything at all..
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by scott's85T/A
Please tell me what is false about anything I said..
I can see how you having spherical race LCA's wouldn't be a problem using washers,you don't have bushings,, but for the people who are using poly, or rubber,, they won't have there bushing touching anything more than that small washer, and one on each side will center it but it will still be to loose, it would take 2 on each side. I've allready been through all this. the LCA's are 2 3/8" wide the BMR brackets are 2 3/4", thats a 3/8" diffrence. (for those of us who are using poly).
I disagree with you that it is "the EXACT same thing.." it may be for you ,, but not for the people using anything other than spherical LCA's. the washer will not be touching the entire bushing. Like I said befor, this may be 100% O.K. but there is nothing false about anything I said,,,,so drop it.
If I knew there was going to be such a disagreement about it I wouldn't have said anything at all..

Then you should have at least posted that they did include washers but you didnt find it was sufficient and pointed out the plus point on the spohns. Not that they dont include anything at all, but it may not be the best thing if running poly bushings. It makes sense that way, not when they do include something but you forget to mention anything about it.

I'll stick to the number of BMR products I have on my car and the 1 Spohn piece, all great quality and no complaints.
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