91RS5spd

Here it is, im pretty sure it's real but im a first time ebay buyer and and just want to make sure im not being scamed. I also read a thread where one of us did get scamed on a second chance option for a LS1. This is also a second chance option for me. So please look at this and give me your in put Thanks!!

Good news! The following eBay item on which you placed a bid for US $5,600.01 is now available for purchase:

1985 Chevrolet : Camaro iroc z
Item number: 4635820191
Bid Amount: US $5,600.01
Date of bid: May-06-06 19:29:27 PDT Don't let this get away!



Second Chance Offer

The seller joegoodman7 (bom0@aol.com) is making this Second Chance Offer because the high bidder was either unable to complete the transaction or the seller has a duplicate item for sale.
The selling of this item through Second Chance Offer is in compliance with eBay policy; you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for all eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection.

• Complete your eBay transaction in 4 easy steps:
eBay accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required from the buyer.
The buyer sends payment to the eBay Agent associated with this transaction. After the payment is received, eBay will confirm to seller that the money have been received and eBay will request the seller to ship. After beeing notified, the seller has three business days to ship and to provide tracking information both to buyer and eBay. If the shipping does not take place, transaction is canceled and a full refund is immediately sent to the buyer;
Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it before confirming to eBay. If it is complete and as described, the buyer should accept the merchandise and release the money to be paid to seller. If the buyer refuses the merchandise, the buyer must ship the merchandise back to the seller within three business days and has to provide tracking information both to seller and eBay.
After the inspection period is over, the buyer must contact eBay with the result of the inspection. If the buyer refuses the merchandise, the refund will be sent to the buyer after the tracking number for the returned shipment is verified.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The following item(s) are clear for eBay's item insurance policy:



1985 Chevrolet : Camaro iroc z
Item number: 4635820191
Shipping insurance: Included Total : US $5,600.01



Buyer's shipping address:
Aaron Justin Orth
im not telling you my address )
Soddy Daisy, TN 37379
United States



eBay`s Agent payment address:
Richard Gibs
1932 Madison Street
Chicago, IL 60612
United States




Item Number: 4635820191
Amount insured: US $5,600.01
Shipping: 0.00
Total amount: US $5,600.01


• Payment instructions:



• Payment must be sent by Western Union Money Transfer
• Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to eBay agent.
We recommend you send payment as soon as possible because your purchase
protection is valid for 30 days only. Sending the payment by any other method of payment
will void this transaction and your right to refund.

• Payment instructions:
STEP 1: Visit an Agent location
Visit a nearby Western Union Agent location (Click to Find Agent Location).
STEP 2: Complete Form
Complete the To Send Money form, including:
Your and your agent`s (receiver) first and last name (as shown on invoice).
The city and country to which the money is being sent.
The amount you wish to send.
Any additional services requested (subject to availability)
STEP 3: Identify yourself
Give the form and valid identification documents to the clerk.
STEP 4: Present Payment
Give the clerk the money you want to send plus the transaction fee.
!Notice from seller: The fee is included in the total amount so deduct the fee from the total amount and send the remaining money, this way you will not pay more than the total amount.
EON
STEP 5: Collect the Receipt from the Clerk
Be sure to save the receipt with your MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) and share the MTCN with eBay. The eBay Agent will use this number to collect the funds.
STEP 6: Check Status
To obtain the status of your money transfer, you can check the Order Status online
Western Union Money Transfer is the only service that has ultimate authentification
of the identity of the receiver of funds. Several IDs and utility bills are required before
the funds are paid. Therefore, no one else but your agent can pick up the money.
Your payments cannot be lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.



• Confirm your payment to eBay by sending a fax to (801) 772-2121 with western union receipt.
For faster processing write the auction #4635820191 on the receipt before sending it fax.
Make sure the following details are visible when sending the fax message:
1. 10 digit MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number)
2. Exact sender's name on file with Western Union
3. Your street address on file with Western Union
4. City and country where you sent the money from
5. Amount sent
6. Auction #


Then wait for the confirmation that the payment has been received. In case that the payment has been received we will request the seller to ship. If the seller refuses to respond or to provide tracking information for a period of 3 days, request our help by replying this invoice, we will take immediate action in refunding the money, you choose the way you are refunded.
Refund requests are processed within 3 days.
The insurer of this transaction is eBay Inc. located at
2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125, United States of America.
This transaction is supervised by eBay Safe Harbor. eBay Safe Harbor helps protect buyers against fraud
and material misrepresentation through its purchase protection program.
eBay Safe Harbor`s goal is for every online transaction to go as planned - safely and without surprises.
eBay Safe Harbor has verified the seller's identity, financial stability, and ability to honor this transaction.

Important Usage Guidelines:

1. The contact information should only be used for resolving matters related to eBay. Any other use is strictly prohibited.
2. This transaction is protected by eBay services such as insurance, feedback and dispute resolution.
3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions insured by eBay Safe Harbor.
4. If you need to dispute this transaction, keep the transaction number at hand when contacting eBay.

This transaction has been started and is supervised by our Safe Harbor Purchase Protection Program

A copy of this invoice has been sent to the seller.
We recommend you send payment as soon as possible because your purchase protection is valid for 30 days only.

Regards,

Safeharbor Department
eBay, Inc.

Mitre#136

it sounds like you got a legit deal. the price you're going to pay for the car seems fair, the car seems to be in excellent condition...i bought a vehicle from an online seller, i flew out and drove it back.....it was awesome.....however.......MAKE SURE THAT YOU SEARCH THE VEHICLE THOROUGHLY BEFORE YOU DRIVE IT ANYWHERE...especially ALL ashtrays and inside the fuse box........trust me

91RS5spd

Thanks, Im just really un-easy doing this, not because of anything the seller has done but because the only reason I even got a ebay account was to buy this car, so im a first time user and just feel open to a scam.

The bad thing is, is im in S. Korea with two months left to go on a one year tour. The car will have to be taken to my wife and tested, ill let her know your advise, thanks again!

C6matt

Buyer's shipping address:
Aaron Justin Orth
im not telling you my address )
Soddy Daisy, TN 37379
United States



eBay`s Agent payment address:
Richard Gibs
1932 Madison Street
Chicago, IL 60612
United States

WTF is this? it seems shady... I've never heard of an ebay agent...and why is the agent in chicago not tn? Buyer beware

espirocz

iTrader: (2)

I assume you are the buchheit1268 user ID. You need to make direct contact with the seller if you feel this is not a scam, because from what I see it looks like some one is going to take your money! Do not ever do Ebay business over Western Union. Paypal or USPS postal money order only. If you want an answer go to ebays web site and punch in the item number. When the page comes up you can double click on either the sellers ID name or the winning bidders ID name and it will allow you to email that person. You should ask either of them if the actual transaction took place.

That agent stuff sure seems like bologna!

I personally would not go with a second chance offer without verification in person or on the telephone.

MY 2 cents

shr00m

iTrader: (2)

One more time in case you missed it in the LS1 thread.

SECOND CHANCE OFFERS ARE STILL EBAY AUCTIONS!!!!!! When you get a legit second chance offer, you will go to ebay to a certain item number that only YOU can bid on. It will be the same auction with the same information, with the same payment methods, with the same everything. You will have 1-3 days to make a decision if you want to take the second chance offer. If you want to take the second chance offer, you will STILL NEED TO BID on the auction and WIN THE AUCTION.

NO SECOND CHANCE OFFERS WILL EVER BE HANDLED DIRECTLY WITH ANOTHER PERSON, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH EBAYS WEBSITE.

The email you received is 100% a scam. Contact Ebay with the email and the 'agents' information and let them deal with him. If you choose to still send this guy money, you WILL lose it.

Kevin D.

91drag

ebay does not help with western union payments if they take you for the money ask the seller if you can pay paypal or cash when you pick up.with them wanting westren union i would say it has to be a scam. if it is indeed a legit email it should also be in your my ebay messages. hope this helps

lockchad

Scam bigtime. Just don't do "second chance" items.

Forshock 85TA

Ebay agents.. thats too good.

This is a scam, have the headers by chance?

BTW, second chance offers WILL ALWAYS SHOW UP IN THE 'MY EBAY' AREA!! if its legit

91RS5spd

I have contacted E-BAY about what is going on just to make sure it is all ligit and not a spoof. If they tell me it's clean then im not going to worry, the seller hasn't done anything to make me feel un-comfortable, but my guard is up because of the money involved.

I haven't gotten an email in "may ebay" that was somthing I was wondering about to. Ill be waiting for ebays reply and keep you guys updated. Thanks a bunch!

Is this the header?

From : eBay Second Chance Offer <aw-confirm@ebay.com>
Reply-To : second-chance-offer@safe-harbor-insurer.com
Sent : Monday, May 15, 2006 5:15 PM
To : aaron_orth@hotmail.com
Subject : eBay Second Chance Offer for Item 4635820191

91RS5spd

I also asked the guy contacting me who is the "seller" I hope to send me certain pics of the car that wasn't posted on the ebay add, and to also send me pics of the VIN and RPO codes, now if this doesnt mean anything then oh-well. But if he does then I know it is the seller of the item if the VIN matches and RPO codes match the car and options.

91RS5spd

Thanks, but I don't think im going to get this car now, I reported the email to e-bay as a possible scam just to safe guard my self. And this is the reply I got back from ebay, also is the full transaction I was to follow from the alleged seller.

Hello,

Thank you for writing to eBay regarding the email you received.

Emails such as this, commonly referred to as "spoof" or "phished"
messages, are sent in an attempt to collect sensitive personal or
financial information from the recipients.

The email you reported was not sent by eBay. We have reported this email
to the appropriate authorities.

Just remember, if you get an email to your registered eBay email address
that looks like it's from eBay about a problem with your account or
requesting personal information, check My Messages first. If it's not
there, it's a fake email.

If you still have any doubt about whether an email message is from eBay,
please forward it immediately to spoof@ebay.com. Do not respond to it or
click any of the links. Do not remove the original subject line or
change the email in any way when you forward it to us.

Once again, thank you for alerting us to the spoof email you received.
Your efforts help keep eBay a safe and fair place to trade.

Regards,

eBay SafeHarbor
Investigations Team

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Email Header:
From : eBay Second Chance Offer <aw-confirm@ebay.com>
Reply-To : second-chance-offer@safe-harbor-insurer.com
Sent : Monday, May 15, 2006 5:15 PM
To : aaron_orth@hotmail.com
Subject : eBay Second Chance Offer for Item 4635820191


Email Body:
Dear bl96ta,
Good news! The following eBay item on which you placed a bid for US
$5,600.01 is now available for purchase:

1985 Chevrolet : Camaro iroc z
Item number: 4635820191
Bid Amount: US $5,600.01
Date of bid: May-06-06 19:29:27 PDT Don't let this get away!



Second Chance Offer

The seller joegoodman7 (bom0men@aol.com) is making this Second Chance
Offer because the high bidder was either unable to complete the
transaction or the seller has a duplicate item for sale.
The selling of this item through Second Chance Offer is in compliance
with eBay policy; you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller
and will be eligible for all eBay services associated with a
transaction, such as fraud protection.

" Complete your eBay transaction in 4 easy steps:
eBay accepts the transaction and offers purchase protection to the
buyer (if the transaction is declined, no further action is required
from the buyer.
The buyer sends payment to the eBay Agent associated with this
transaction. After the payment is received, eBay will confirm to seller
that the money have been received and eBay will request the seller to
ship. After beeing notified, the seller has three business days to ship
and to provide tracking information both to buyer and eBay. If the
shipping does not take place, transaction is canceled and a full refund
is immediately sent to the buyer;
Buyer receives the merchandise and has five days to inspect it before
confirming to eBay. If it is complete and as described, the buyer should
accept the merchandise and release the money to be paid to seller. If
the buyer refuses the merchandise, the buyer must ship the merchandise
back to the seller within three business days and has to provide
tracking information both to seller and eBay.
After the inspection period is over, the buyer must contact eBay with
the result of the inspection. If the buyer refuses the merchandise, the
refund will be sent to the buyer after the tracking number for the
returned shipment is verified.


------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------


The following item(s) are clear for eBay's item insurance policy:



1985 Chevrolet : Camaro iroc z
Item number: 4635820191
Shipping insurance: Included Total : US $5,600.01



Buyer's shipping address:
Aaron Justin Orth
9851 Gannaway st.
Soddy Daisy, TN 37379
United States



eBay`s Agent payment address:
Richard Gibs
1932 Madison Street
Chicago, IL 60612
United States




Item Number: 4635820191
Amount insured: US $5,600.01
Shipping: 0.00
Total amount: US $5,600.01


" Payment instructions:



" Payment must be sent by Western Union Money Transfer
" Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to eBay agent.
We recommend you send payment as soon as possible because your purchase
protection is valid for 30 days only. Sending the payment by any other
method of payment
will void this transaction and your right to refund.

" Payment instructions:
STEP 1: Visit an Agent location
Visit a nearby Western Union Agent location (Click to Find Agent
Location).
STEP 2: Complete Form
Complete the To Send Money form, including:
Your and your agent`s (receiver) first and last name (as shown on
invoice).
The city and country to which the money is being sent.
The amount you wish to send.
Any additional services requested (subject to availability)
STEP 3: Identify yourself
Give the form and valid identification documents to the clerk.
STEP 4: Present Payment
Give the clerk the money you want to send plus the transaction fee.
!Notice from seller: The fee is included in the total amount so deduct
the fee from the total amount and send the remaining money, this way you
will not pay more than the total amount.
EON
STEP 5: Collect the Receipt from the Clerk
Be sure to save the receipt with your MTCN (Money Transfer Control
Number) and share the MTCN with eBay. The eBay Agent will use this
number to collect the funds.
STEP 6: Check Status
To obtain the status of your money transfer, you can check the Order
Status online
Western Union Money Transfer is the only service that has ultimate
authentification
of the identity of the receiver of funds. Several IDs and utility bills
are required before
the funds are paid. Therefore, no one else but your agent can pick up
the money.
Your payments cannot be lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.



" Confirm your payment to eBay by sending a fax to (801) 772-2121 with
western union receipt.
For faster processing write the auction #4635820191 on the receipt
before sending it fax.
Make sure the following details are visible when sending the fax
message:
1. 10 digit MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number)
2. Exact sender's name on file with Western Union
3. Your street address on file with Western Union
4. City and country where you sent the money from
5. Amount sent
6. Auction #


Then wait for the confirmation that the payment has been received. In
case that the payment has been received we will request the seller to
ship. If the seller refuses to respond or to provide tracking
information for a period of 3 days, request our help by replying this
invoice, we will take immediate action in refunding the money, you
choose the way you are refunded.
Refund requests are processed within 3 days.
The insurer of this transaction is eBay Inc. located at
2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125, United States of America.
This transaction is supervised by eBay Safe Harbor. eBay Safe Harbor
helps protect buyers against fraud
and material misrepresentation through its purchase protection program.
eBay Safe Harbor`s goal is for every online transaction to go as planned
- safely and without surprises.
eBay Safe Harbor has verified the seller's identity, financial
stability, and ability to honor this transaction.

Important Usage Guidelines:

1. The contact information should only be used for resolving matters
related to eBay. Any other use is strictly prohibited.
2. This transaction is protected by eBay services such as insurance,
feedback and dispute resolution.
3. You may buy and sell with confidence in all transactions insured by
eBay Safe Harbor.
4. If you need to dispute this transaction, keep the transaction number
at hand when contacting eBay.

This transaction has been started and is supervised by our Safe Harbor
Purchase Protection Program

A copy of this invoice has been sent to the seller.
We recommend you send payment as soon as possible because your purchase
protection is valid for 30 days only.

Regards,

Safeharbor Department
eBay, Inc.

91RS5spd

I no longer feel safe, ill email the guy and give him one option. If he is for real, my wife will meet him and pay for the car in cash/money order. If he doesnt agree no deal,

I wont be heart broken or anything, I still have a great car back home. Ill have the interior completely 100% restored with in the first two months of being home and then ill start on the body work to get it ready to be painted. Once thats done there will be no seperating me from my 1991!

shr00m

iTrader: (2)

Dude! No offense, but are you nuts?? We've all told you it's a scam, Ebay's told you it's a scam.. It's a scam.. Quit pursuing it, he won't email you back or he will insist on Western Union. Keep going and he'll snag you in another scam somehow.

Kevin D.

bfox88

iTrader: (2)

ya, this is going exactly the same as that other guys thread about the LS1 he got scammed on, except he lost his money you still have yours....SO HOLD ON TO IT!

JP86SS

iTrader: (1)

You did the right thing! You checked first.
Don't let it bother you. The car probably doesn't even exist.
there's lots of that crap going on, you need to watch and be sure things are as they seem.
Too many people do not check anything out and then get ripped off.

NEVER send Western Union. If the seller is legit they will work with you to obtain the payment.
It would have been gone and there is nothing you could have done.
Pressure to buy and then send quick payment always makes me suspicious.

Send the wife some flowers with the money you saved
Good luck with the 91'

91RS5spd

thanks! I will send my wife some flowers, thats a good idea

I am by nature a very trusting person, I have always given the benifit of the doubt to everybody I meet, I know it is a bad trait but I can't help it lol, Thats why in my mind I think that if this is all a misunderstanding that he would say "sure, I understand come on up and get it with cash in hand" You guys are right, I will drop it and leave it be and fucus on my L98. Thanks to all who steered me in the right direction, with out your comments I would have trusted this guy all the way to the end.

Respectfully,
Aaron.

badgta

iTrader: (4)

DON'T DO IT!

RUN LIKE THE DAMN BLAZES AND DON'T LOOK BACK!

and if you won't run heres a bitchslap to wake you up

dude i got took for three grand, please don't send this guy anything western union, and hell i wouldn't send him anything at all considering he asked for westrn union.... well, i might send him a big virus considering he will accept your emails, hey i will send him somthing real nice! just give me his email address! by the time i am through with him even he won't know what hit him!

consider yourself lucky my friend..... i know what i have went through this past several days, and i wouldn't wish it on anyone here! so please, do us all thirdgenners a favor and run, just run!

Mitre#136

Boy, don't i feel like an ***!!! i would have trusted this guy, these gentlemen are right, and i should just do everything opposite of my gut instinct, i'd probably live an easier life. Sorry for the bad advise.

91RS5spd

Don't worry about it, main thing is I didn't deal with this nut! Thanks again!

net_coma

iTrader: (3)

• Payment must be sent by Western Union Money Transfer

Yeah, don't ever do that with ebay items. Even ebay states to never pay with a money transfer.

Julie Bergman

I was not around to watch an auction I was in for a Super Ram set-up and lost it by $25. I was bummed! So, when there were e-mails about second chance offers I was jazzed. I spend two hours figuring out this was a scam.

After my phony second chance offer came they asked for my address and username (that should have been a tip, granted I was a bit suspicious at that point) and manufactured an "invoice," which I am having trouble posting here.

There were several signals here that something was wrong:

• I got two separate e-mails on second chance offers
• The Western Union form of payment (A BIG WARNING SIGN) - the seller preferred PayPal
• The item was now coming from the UK and not Kansas where the auction said it was
• I noticed the shipping was still $40...being a UPS shipper myself I know there is no way I can get something that heavy from the UK for $40
• When asked about the time it would take to get the item the seller said about two days...again as a UPS shipper I know that ain't happen' for $40!

I suspect the seller knows nothing about this, this is just a scam where bots or actual people look to e-mail the auction losers and see if they can make a quick buck. The two separate e-mailers kept assuring me it was safe because it was going through E-bay.. BEWARE!

galvarado

I received a second chance offer on a cam on ebay. Someone else outbid me right at the last second and sure enough I received the second chance offer the next day for my highest bid. They wrote in the e-mail that the high bidder didn't want the cam because it didn't fit their application. So I replied stating that I would only pay what the bid would've been had the other person not bid. The supposed high bidder then contacted me directly saying that they would absorb half the difference. I wrote back and said that I didn't feel like I had to pay for someone else's mistake and that I was going to pass. I got no more replies. So, to get to the point, I won't accept any second chance offers on ebay. Sorry for the long post.

Gene

Forshock 85TA

TRUE second chance offers are not a "message from an eBay member," will show up ONLY in My eBay, require you to actually bid to win, etc.

305q_ta86

iTrader: (1)

Whaaa?

chads89ta

iTrader: (6)

hey i just went to ebay, searched the item number, the car shows it is in lima ohio right where i live, will somebody else check this also, i can ask to see this car in person to see if the car is here, what do you think.

Julie Bergman

See the car in person! If they don't agree to that forget it!

Forshock 85TA

There is no car! Its a scam!

chads89ta

iTrader: (6)

never mind, i did not look when the auction ended, i was trying to help

kurfbird

iTrader: (24)

Second chance offers are only good for 24 hours in my expeirnece. Have soldstuff on ebay.

There is NO E bay buyer protection service.

ZZ4 86 Z28

iTrader: (1)

nice save. i think everyone should be warned about western union money transfer.

and by the way...you told all of us your address

Guest

Numerous misssspelings and many a lot quite a few grammatical errors in the text of the '4 easy steps', just like the other ebay post.

Anyone have a reverse directory for American Fork, Utah? I wonder what that 'fax' number is to? Hrm.

Forshock 85TA

Google Maps

qwest customer...

Red Devil

This is getting bad. As many have mentioned (it is worth mentioning again) the ONLY valid method to verify a second chance offer is to check 'My Messages' on ebay itself. Don't follow any links to get to ebay etc, phisically key it into your address bar and have at it.

Have I mentioned I don't like scammers?

Xlr8torZ28

iTrader: (19)

contact the FBI fraud division and turn this guy in. Teach these people a lesson!!

Xlr8torZ28

iTrader: (19)

I just searched Public Data .com and found nothing on a Richard Gibs from the criminal records, DMV, or public listings. Turn this guy in!!

ml258-89iroc

I had the same second hand chance offered on a 1988 orange iroc. pure scam. I reported him to ebay appearntly they did nothing. it was over a year ago.

Julie Bergman

I made the comment above that in my case of being scammed with the second offer, my suspicions are that there are many different scammers working auction losers and it likely has nothing to do with the seller. Do not think for a minute that these folks are using their real names anyway!

JP86SS

iTrader: (1)

This is true. The guy probably doesn't even know this has happened.
He sold his car and thought it was done with.
I've had people ask me if my second chance offers have been legit and I have NEVER offered one. So I'm sure that is the case because of the nice dollar amount on the item and the lure of getting that car.
Makes for good bait.
The scammers are everywhere on the net.
If something doesn't check out (or just feel right), you're better off not doing it.

cheppibear

I won an auction for a 1984 Chevy Pickup last June. I paid $5,500.

I found the item, noticed in my search screening that it was extremely local (<5miles away), contacted the seller, met with him (twice), he even gave me a creeper and flashlight to look under the truck. It still had the original undercoating Liner on from 1984.

Anyway the point is, I was able to view the truck, and knew the value of a very low mileage, well maintained and documented mid 80s Chevy pickup. The truck has no rust which probably adds at least 2 grand to these things if you know about mid 80s Chevy pickups.

I paid what I thought it was worth, AFTER LOOKING AT IT AND MAKING A DECISION ABOUT HOW HIGH I WOULD GO. It amazes me that people will buy vehicles, houses, boats, anything of high priced value without even looking at it.

In looking at the this camaro auction, this guy has perfect 100% feedback. That is the one thing capable of misleading everyone. Another point of interest although probably small.,,Before listing this car, this guy did not sell an item on ebay for 8 months (or at least that was the last feedback received).

Keep your emotions out of the ebay auctions, and more importantly out of stock market. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, guess what?

rx7speed

How can I be certain that a seller’s Second Chance Offer is legitimate?




Receiving a Second Chance Offer

Pat Hall

iTrader: (31)

Geez, I hope I don't get pegged as a scammer. I just sold a 92 5 speed shift plate at auction for $124.00! While I'm stoked about the price it fetched, the winning bidder has zero transactions next to his user name. I'm still waiting to receive his payment, and it's only been a couple of days since the auction ended, but having no transactions and such a ridiculous ending price, I guess I'm kinda wary as to if he'll actually send payment. Anyways, to get to the point, I sent a message to the 2nd highest bidder to let him know I'll be sending him a second chance offer if the winning bidder falls through on payment. I didn't want to send him an actual second chance offer until I give the winner adequate time to pay, I just wanted him to be aware that I may do so. I hope I didn't do anything unethical by doing that. What do you guys think? Btw, look out for a 91 "Z/28" that I noticed on there yesterday for sale. The guy claimed he was one of those "agents" you guys were talking about, and the car is a RS that somebody put the hood scoops, high rise spoiler, and Z/28 emblems on. It has the 110 speedo, and the 8th vin digit is "E", which is a 305 TBI. Way easy to spot if you know the cars as well as most of us here do, but a first time 3rd gen buyer would probably fall for it hook, line, and sinker! Oh yeah, his feedback rating was like around 87 percent too.

1991z281le

I could be wrong but it looks like the "agent's" address is a parking lot outside the United Center...

Mitre#136

buyers be aware

shr00m

iTrader: (2)

It kills me... I just recently ran an auction for an LS1 combo on ebay that didn't sell and had this in the auction:

And I still got a message from a user asking if I sent them a second chance offer. I guess the lure of a good deal is too much for some.. At least this guy checked with me first.

Kevin D.

rx7speed

one of the best things to do I guess. granted ebay tells you how to tell if it is from the user or not but if nothing else that is the next best thing to double check with the seller

Dave Farr

I guess the reason your posting on this site- is the deal doesn't feel right, go with your gut- there will always be another car out there.