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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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for those who like the evoltionize kit

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1868944589
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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2k for a 15k body kit, I would definately bid on it, the only problem is that I don't have a 600 BHP car to back up the styling.
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Old Oct 21, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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. If you have any questions please contact me at 301 722 0740 ask for Tim, I have built several of these kits.


It looks like this guy does some quality work and he even said you could contact him since he has done many of these before in the past......

I'm not planning on doing this, but would be good for someone looking for one......
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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damn, i just noticed that guy lives an hour away from me. i wouldnt do that to my car, but i always wanted to see how one looked in person
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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I wonder how much wieght that adds to the car. Alos wouldnt that mess with the weight distribution and affect cornering?
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by devianb
2k for a 15k body kit, I would definately bid on it, the only problem is that I don't have a 600 BHP car to back up the styling.
The problem is that most people that have 600hp don't want all the extra weight from that kit.
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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The problem is that most people that have 600hp don't want all the extra weight from that kit.
Exactly........
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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interesting :lala: :lala:

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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reminds me a lot of the Eclipse
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 02:02 PM
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I still dont undertand why people think that kit adds alot of weight. Sure it widens the rear by 6 inches, but it is a full body fiberglass replacement. Full weight of the kit plus the crate (huge crate) when shipped is 473 lbs. Total weight of the Evo I kitcar when complete was 3220 pounds . It evens itself out. With some extreme weight reduction you could get it below 3000 pounds with driver. When you figgure in that you can fit 13.5 inch wide wheels in the rear, and keeping the weight in mind, I think the kit will allow you to get much better traction off the line on the street.

Yeah I saw it ... followed it for a while ... have the money to get it ... but have more important stuff to pay for right now (buying the fee to my house), so looks like I miss out. I emailed the guy asking if he had any more (since he mentioned several). I will have an Evo one day ... one day ...
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Eh, not big into body kits but I guess its a good find if your into them. Tom your gay. :sillylol:
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
I still dont undertand why people think that kit adds alot of weight. Sure it widens the rear by 6 inches, but it is a full body fiberglass replacement. Full weight of the kit plus the crate (huge crate) when shipped is 473 lbs. Total weight of the Evo I kitcar when complete was 3220 pounds. It evens itself out. With some extreme weight reduction you could get it below 3000 pounds with driver. When you figgure in that you can fit 13.5 inch wide wheels in the rear, and keeping the weight in mind, I think the kit will allow you to get much better traction off the line on the street.

I don't understand it either why people think that.I mean you're replacing the front end and other with fiberglass parts which are lighter than the stock parts and with what Crazy says it is the car is about 2-300 pounds lighter than before.I would like to buy that kit if I had the money and another 3rdgen.
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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I love the EVO kit. Man id love to do that some day. Talk about having something rare. Dont see too many EVOs out there eh??
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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uh i think it looks like a hooked up civic??????
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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hahaha i like that one Brody. funny!!
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 04:13 PM
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Yeah but it says and i quote
"entire front clip bolts on factory style and door skins and rear clip need to be bonded to existing panels with PROFESSIONAL grade two part panel adhesive"

So doesnt that mean that those panels bolt onto the stell panels with ADHESIVE. meaning the fiberglass is bonded to the steel panel already in place?
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by 91Bird305
Eh, not big into body kits but I guess its a good find if your into them. Tom your gay. :sillylol:
hahaha, you motherfu.... i never said i liked it, i came across it somehow on ebay while browsing for either an ATI procharger or TPI injectors or something, i forget, anyway i was just showing it for others, oh well the bidding ended :lala:
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by SpeedJunkie
Yeah but it says and i quote
"entire front clip bolts on factory style and door skins and rear clip need to be bonded to existing panels with PROFESSIONAL grade two part panel adhesive"

So doesnt that mean that those panels bolt onto the stell panels with ADHESIVE. meaning the fiberglass is bonded to the steel panel already in place?
You are correct. But it also requires other modifications to the rest of the car that we are not aware of (bumper supports and so forth). Honeslty I dont know much about the Evo kit beides what their website says, so I go with that. Their webites quotes the weight of a completed Evo I kit on a 3rd gen as 3220 pounds. I was thinking for further weight reduction you could do the fiberglass/lexan doors before applying the Evo paneling, as well as tubular suspension parts and aluminum engine parts. You could also install a 4th gen gas tank, and even gut the interior if you wanted. But a gutted interior would defeat the purpose of spending all that cash on a nice exterior. Its posible to get an Evo equipped 3rd gen under 3000 pounds.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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I think the only people who don't like that kit are:

A.) The "Purists", stock ****'s, etc.

B.) Those who despise imports.

I am neither. Therefore I'd love to have this kit.

Though I've said it before and I'll say it again... I would use a thirdgen that was running strong but was worse for wear; I would not tear up a perfectly nice one.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 08:13 AM
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I think the only people who don't like that kit are:

A.) The "Purists", stock ****'s, etc.

B.) Those who despise imports.

I am neither. Therefore I'd love to have this kit.

Though I've said it before and I'll say it again... I would use a thirdgen that was running strong but was worse for wear; I would not tear up a perfectly nice one.
C.) Those who think it looks like another cheezy kit. Oh wait... that's exactly what it is.

I always liked those cars, then I saw one up close. Talk about a poorly crafted pile of crap. I could give a bathtub full of body filler to a 10 year old and wind up with better fitting stuff.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
C.) Those who think it looks like another cheezy kit. Oh wait... that's exactly what it is.

I always liked those cars, then I saw one up close. Talk about a poorly crafted pile of crap. I could give a bathtub full of body filler to a 10 year old and wind up with better fitting stuff.
yaa, its very cheezy

i dont like imports at all though, but i'm definetly not a stock ****


that what i can't deal with though, an american car dressed up like a cheezy import

(insert barf icon here)
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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Have either of you guys even seen the Evo kit in person? I mean if you dont like the look, then that fine. But it sounds to me that you are assuming (***-u-me) the build quality is bad because other kits have failed in the past. From what I have heard (from Evo owners), the build quality of the paneling is very very good. The other part that must be considered is the paint. If either the quality of the parts or the paint is bad, then it will come out looking bad. If both the build quality and the paint are good, then people might be tricked into thinking its a factory piece (tho they wont know who makes it). I plan to have my Evo professionally painted with custom airbrushed tribal graphics (stuff you'd find on a show truck). The paint will really make the difference in the way this kit looks. The kit reminds me of an exotic, not an import. But hey its just a personal opinion right?
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
Have either of you guys even seen the Evo kit in person?
Yes. When I said up close, I didn't mean that I put a magnifying glass to the computer screen. I saw one in Syracuse, and it was a goddamned heap. The silicone cauk around all of the attached body panels really added that special touch that screamed "quality".

Like I said above, I actually really liked that kit until I saw it in person. Maybe the one that I saw was just the unfortunate victim to a hack-and-slash builder, I don't know. From what I've read on the sites of those that have built it, the kits do not fit well, so you're either going to wind up with a piece of crap like I saw, or hundreds of hours fixing the kit.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
Yes. When I said up close, I didn't mean that I put a magnifying glass to the computer screen.
That's what i was thinking............

I believe it was the quality of the builder........a good person would have made it look good.......Probally the person got lazy after a while.....
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
I saw one in Syracuse, and it was a goddamned heap. The silicone cauk around all of the attached body panels really added that special touch that screamed "quality".
Sorry for doubting you. What a shame about that car.
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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hahaha i like that one Brody. funny!!
lol thanks
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 09:12 PM
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You guys need to understand that every single one of those you see will be different. There is alot of custom work that needs to be done to the kit to install it. Therefore, the quality of the kit installed on the car is direclty affected by the competence of the installer. If he knows what he's doing it will come out nice. If the guy is a putz, then it will look like a scale model that was put together by a retard while he was on the short bus on the way to the "special" school. The newer kits they're putting out come with a different hood that changes the lines of the whole kit.

Now that I saw it side by side, all I will ever think about is how much it resembles the eclipse. Darn!
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 09:07 AM
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I don't think it really resembles the Eclipse... other than the headlights...

Jim, I can see why you would not like the kit after seeing a monstrosity like that... but I would have to think that the person who installed it was at fault, not the manufacturers of the kit.

I agree that it would have to be a very well done car, not just thrown together, or it would look like just another cheezy kit.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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I think this kit looks real nice, but I think it takes away the agressive look the camaro already has. I went to the web page for it and found this under another kit car the company makes

"The bladed side mirrors also look bad. Perhaps mirrors of the same design of the Evoluzione could be used? Those are much more sexy looking.
Well, the car is light. These mirrors are light and evocate a light feeling. Something like spider legs. EVO´s mirrors are heavy and look that way. EVO is 3700 pounds vehicle..."

That kit really adds some weight to the car I guess.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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we went over this already. they are talking about the mirrors on the attack kit versus the mirrors on the evo kit. i think they meant to say the evo is based off a 3700 pound vehicle. it says in the dimensions section of the evo that it weighs 3220 pounds when complete. not sure why they would contradict themselves on their own website so its the only explination i can think of.
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Old Oct 25, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Ya when I was reading the attack FAQ, it occured to me that they really want to make quality good looking performance kits. I just thought that making the evo weigh that much was contradictory to what they set out to do with the kits. However, I don't think 3rd gens weigh 3700 pounds, I thought they were in the 3400-3500 range a little less than a 4th gen??
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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there was a rumor about a evo built on a 4th gen platform
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