1991-92 z28 clones
1991-92 z28 clones
I was wondering whoever has a 91-92 clone if they could please post pics and, if willing, post how difficult this was to do. I heard the spoiler bolts right up, and to take the rear side spoilers off, and puddy in the holes shouldn't be too hard...but what I was wondering is the ground effects. Are they easy to convert? Also, what about the rear bumper cover...I heard that needed to be changed too. If anybody has any information, let me know, or just please post your 91 92 z28 clone pics. Thanks
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From what i understand, you would need to replace all of the gfx, including sides, pieces on the door, front lip, rear quarters, back bumper, high rise spoiler, badges and emblems, wheels, front air dam with bow tie on it, and hood vents. Anything else i might have missed? Oh ,and the tail lights if you don't already have teh grid style. It shouldn't be that hard! All of the gfx should bolt right up ,and the spoiler, yes you will have to cover the holes from the three piece and have them painted. I guess its hard to find a 91-92 camaro around you!?!?
Well, me and my dad just restored an 86 z28 camaro. Sadly I wrecked it because of a deer. It honestly isn't bad but, needs body work and repainted on the driver side quarter panel (no, the frame is not damaged), so while doing so, I thought that I could just make it look like a 91 or 92. I don't want to be a perfect clone, I just want the body and the ground effects to look like a 91 92. my badgets can stay, along with my hood louvers. Honestly, it would be better if I could find a 91 92 pefect body in need of minor body work (nothing that bondo can't fix) barely any rust, an engine, tranny, and an interior. Because then I could swap my parts into it...and junk my car. However, I have yet to find something like that. If anybody DOES have something like that, and is interested in selling. Give me an email dpav02@attbi.com
Originally posted by Benny
I agree, just find a '91 or '92, they are fairly plentiful now and don't cost to much, cloning just plain sucks.
I agree, just find a '91 or '92, they are fairly plentiful now and don't cost to much, cloning just plain sucks.
**** on that Do what-ever you want to do. I made a 91-2 z28 clone out of my 86 sc. This was before the paint job
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Around here....it is VERY VERY VERY hard to find a true 1991 or 1992 Z28. When I had my 84........I redone the whole car 1992 Style. Changed the nose, back bumper, ALL the ground effects, High Rise spoiler, bowtie grill, foglights....added an ASCD Big Block Stinger Hood....and had the car lowered 2 inches. Now....it's completely totaled..was hit in the rear...but....I'd say go for for it man.....just be prepared to have a bunch of money. I had about $7000.00 by the time I was done with it. Here is my new car.....and it's 100% REAL...there were NO 91 or 92 Z28's around here....so...I had to drive to Chicago to pick this one up..!!
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You may want to ask the member here that owns a 3rd Gen dealership....
I remember he made a post where he had TWO 1991 Z28's with 350 engines...."extremethirdgen" or something like that, he's located in New York....
I remember he made a post where he had TWO 1991 Z28's with 350 engines...."extremethirdgen" or something like that, he's located in New York....
first of, in my opinion, anyone that knocks on clones is pretty gay. yes i agree not to sell it as a z, but thats it. otherwise as long as your not ricing your car do what you want. if it was up to me, id make it a law to have every 3rd gen with a high rise... im not so crazy about the 3 peice,, but ive seen some beautiful 3 peices... AS LONG AS YOU LIKE YOUR BEAUTIFUL THIRDGEN, ITS ALLL GOOD!
Originally posted by Benny
Just don't try to pawn off a clone as real if you sell it to an unsuspecting buyer.
Just don't try to pawn off a clone as real if you sell it to an unsuspecting buyer.
There are some unsuspecting buyers out there, but i believe that is the name of the game. If you want a car, it is your duty to research it and make sure everything checks out. SELLING FAKES AS REAL IS
LYING I sold my 86 (the one in the pic above) for $800 just to get rid of it. The guy i sold it to sold it about 4 weeks ago and the guy who bought it is pissed. I think it's hilarious why he's mad! the year/grd efx style don't match and it's got a 2.8!!
He called me asking if i still had the 350 that came out of it????? I told him the whole story that it wasn't a Z it was sc 2.8. He thought it was all original even though it had about 10 different color body panels on it.
Don't get me wrong, i don't condone the selling of fakies as real. No-one deserves to be taken, even if they don't know better.
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the ground effects wont bolt up to a car with the older style ones......i found that out the hard way.....the newer ground effects are a urethane piece too, while the older ones are fiberglass. I found that out when i bought my 91 RS, it had a broken rear ground effect....so i decided to just walk out to the shop, yank one off a parts car and paint it black and slap it on....well i found out it was totally different, the bolt holes are not in the same place, and its not exactly the same size and shap.....but it was close enough to look alot better than the busted one, so i drilled new holes and bolted it on there.
here is a pic of my 91z clone
hard to find a good car in aus let alone what you want
mine had the z bodykit but still had the tbi
ended up converting to 350 tpi ..is it wrong ...hell no buy the car you want OR make the car you want out of what you have ...up to every individual
btw i still keep the RS badging on the car coz my car is NOT a z28
hard to find a good car in aus let alone what you want
mine had the z bodykit but still had the tbi
ended up converting to 350 tpi ..is it wrong ...hell no buy the car you want OR make the car you want out of what you have ...up to every individual
btw i still keep the RS badging on the car coz my car is NOT a z28
I have the Dealership with 19 thirdgens in NY. My sweet black 91 Z/28 was sold last week to a new home in KS but my white 91 Z/28 that I received on trade is still awaiting adoption.Dpav I responded to your email about 91/92 Z/28's and sent you some information. In my pointless opinion every thirdgen needs 91/92 GFX and wing, they are the baddest looking Camaro ever produced.
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I have this argument before....
AUSRS....Do you consider that a clone? I don't....and I hate clones. That car is beautiful, and it clearly is marked "RS".
It's not the parts or the motor.....it's the markings that make the "clone/non-clone".
I must be gay, because I think cloning sucks. I've never flamed anyone for doing it, and I don't get all pissed off, it's not the end of the world, but it's just not right.
AUSRS....Do you consider that a clone? I don't....and I hate clones. That car is beautiful, and it clearly is marked "RS".
It's not the parts or the motor.....it's the markings that make the "clone/non-clone".
I must be gay, because I think cloning sucks. I've never flamed anyone for doing it, and I don't get all pissed off, it's not the end of the world, but it's just not right.
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I think cloning is actually a type of "customizing" really.....and If you can weld up holes, drill new holes, add spoilers, add new noses.....and many other things that alot of people can't do....I really have to take my hat off to them.....and customizing is one of the best things when it comes to these cars....when I redone my 84 as a 92 Z28 (before I was hit and now totaled)......people really gave me alot of respect for how much work and problem solving I had to do.....so for the people that do it.....good job....I know how much work is involved....my 91 Z28 is the real deal....and I'm going to be doing some custom work to it to..(1980-1981 Z28 fender louvers).....and for the people that don't like it...or disagree with it.....you could always ask them to see how many things they to do to to create what they created.....and maybe you'll have a little more respect for what they have done.......
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84customz28...
I would never mean to come across like I didn't respect the time and effort and for that matter, the love that goes in to anyones project.
If I met you, or anyone else who had put time and money into a clone, I would not be upset, and I'd be happy to talk cars. I would certainly pick on ya' a little because I don't like clones, but It's not worth losing the good friendships that we develop throught this great hobby.
That still doesn't change my view on this matter!
I would never mean to come across like I didn't respect the time and effort and for that matter, the love that goes in to anyones project.
If I met you, or anyone else who had put time and money into a clone, I would not be upset, and I'd be happy to talk cars. I would certainly pick on ya' a little because I don't like clones, but It's not worth losing the good friendships that we develop throught this great hobby.
That still doesn't change my view on this matter!
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Originally posted by Abubaca
I have this argument before....
AUSRS....Do you consider that a clone? I don't....and I hate clones. That car is beautiful, and it clearly is marked "RS".
It's not the parts or the motor.....it's the markings that make the "clone/non-clone".
I must be gay, because I think cloning sucks. I've never flamed anyone for doing it, and I don't get all pissed off, it's not the end of the world, but it's just not right.
I have this argument before....
AUSRS....Do you consider that a clone? I don't....and I hate clones. That car is beautiful, and it clearly is marked "RS".
It's not the parts or the motor.....it's the markings that make the "clone/non-clone".
I must be gay, because I think cloning sucks. I've never flamed anyone for doing it, and I don't get all pissed off, it's not the end of the world, but it's just not right.
I don't like cloning. If you like the high rise and hood blisters and rims and ground effects, add them, but I would keep the badges the same. I hate to bring the r-word into this, but how many "euroed" cars have the "Type-R" badge on the company that makes the car doesn't even make a "Type-R" version of that car.
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Originally posted by Abubaca
84customz28...
I would never mean to come across like I didn't respect the time and effort and for that matter, the love that goes in to anyones project.
If I met you, or anyone else who had put time and money into a clone, I would not be upset, and I'd be happy to talk cars. I would certainly pick on ya' a little because I don't like clones, but It's not worth losing the good friendships that we develop throught this great hobby.
That still doesn't change my view on this matter!
84customz28...
I would never mean to come across like I didn't respect the time and effort and for that matter, the love that goes in to anyones project.
If I met you, or anyone else who had put time and money into a clone, I would not be upset, and I'd be happy to talk cars. I would certainly pick on ya' a little because I don't like clones, but It's not worth losing the good friendships that we develop throught this great hobby.
That still doesn't change my view on this matter!
I agree with both sides on this topic. I love just seeing a purely original camaro that looks like it came straight from the factory, however, I give respect to people who do their own thing with their car. There was this picture of this camaro from Hawaii, I didn't agree with what they did to it but I mean, it is THEIR car, not yours. Allow them to have fun and be happy. And I'm still looking for that 91, 92 Z28 in need of restoring... if anybody is interested, or knows where I could get something like that email me
dpav02@attbi.com
Idealy I am looking for something without an engine, tranny, a beat up interior, and a body that could be fixed with sanding, bondo, and then a repaint.
dpav02@attbi.com
Idealy I am looking for something without an engine, tranny, a beat up interior, and a body that could be fixed with sanding, bondo, and then a repaint.
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Originally posted by MetalliCamaroRS
I agree with you. That car us badged an RS. He just added body parts to it, thats all.
I don't like cloning. If you like the high rise and hood blisters and rims and ground effects, add them, but I would keep the badges the same. I hate to bring the r-word into this, but how many "euroed" cars have the "Type-R" badge on the company that makes the car doesn't even make a "Type-R" version of that car.
I agree with you. That car us badged an RS. He just added body parts to it, thats all.
I don't like cloning. If you like the high rise and hood blisters and rims and ground effects, add them, but I would keep the badges the same. I hate to bring the r-word into this, but how many "euroed" cars have the "Type-R" badge on the company that makes the car doesn't even make a "Type-R" version of that car.
That's a good point....but what if it is a Z28...from 1982-1990?...not trying to argue.....but then they have the right to put their Z28 badges on....but as far as the RS badges go...yeah..that's what I would do too....and it's probably the right thing to do...
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Ok, maybe I missed something here.
If the car was...say...an 82 Z28, and it was re-done to look exactly like a 92 Z28, then that's fair game in my book. It was a z28 and it STILL is a Z28. it's badged as a Z28.That's not a "clone" in my book.
If I were the last word......(which I'm not
)...I'd allow it!
If the car was...say...an 82 Z28, and it was re-done to look exactly like a 92 Z28, then that's fair game in my book. It was a z28 and it STILL is a Z28. it's badged as a Z28.That's not a "clone" in my book.
If I were the last word......(which I'm not
)...I'd allow it!
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Originally posted by Abubaca
Ok, maybe I missed something here.
If the car was...say...an 82 Z28, and it was re-done to look exactly like a 92 Z28, then that's fair game in my book. It was a z28 and it STILL is a Z28. it's badged as a Z28.That's not a "clone" in my book.
If I were the last word......(which I'm not
)...I'd allow it!
Ok, maybe I missed something here.
If the car was...say...an 82 Z28, and it was re-done to look exactly like a 92 Z28, then that's fair game in my book. It was a z28 and it STILL is a Z28. it's badged as a Z28.That's not a "clone" in my book.
If I were the last word......(which I'm not
)...I'd allow it!
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Ok, so to clarify my opinion....
Once a Z28 ALWAYS a Z28.
Once an RS ALWAYS an RS.
I don't care about wings,gfx,motors, etc.... but that almighty badge needs to say what it did the day it rolled of the line. If it does, GREAT. If it's a 92 z28 badge on an 85 z28, hey no biggie.
If "I" was the one on the wrong page about all this.......I apologize.
Once a Z28 ALWAYS a Z28.
Once an RS ALWAYS an RS.
I don't care about wings,gfx,motors, etc.... but that almighty badge needs to say what it did the day it rolled of the line. If it does, GREAT. If it's a 92 z28 badge on an 85 z28, hey no biggie.
If "I" was the one on the wrong page about all this.......I apologize.
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Originally posted by Abubaca
Ok, so to clarify my opinion....
Once a Z28 ALWAYS a Z28.
Once an RS ALWAYS an RS.
I don't care about wings,gfx,motors, etc.... but that almighty badge needs to say what it did the day it rolled of the line. If it does, GREAT. If it's a 92 z28 badge on an 85 z28, hey no biggie.
If "I" was the one on the wrong page about all this.......I apologize.
Ok, so to clarify my opinion....
Once a Z28 ALWAYS a Z28.
Once an RS ALWAYS an RS.
I don't care about wings,gfx,motors, etc.... but that almighty badge needs to say what it did the day it rolled of the line. If it does, GREAT. If it's a 92 z28 badge on an 85 z28, hey no biggie.
If "I" was the one on the wrong page about all this.......I apologize.
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Originally posted by 84customZ28
Oh hell dude, yeah..I think we are both on the same page now.....so everyone posting on this topic.....is talking about like making.... let's say an SC Camaro with a 2.8.....or even a 1992 RS....with a 305...look like a 91 or 92 Z28? That's what they are against? I'd be against that too.....definently....with a V6....!....thanks for clearing me up on that Abubaca
Oh hell dude, yeah..I think we are both on the same page now.....so everyone posting on this topic.....is talking about like making.... let's say an SC Camaro with a 2.8.....or even a 1992 RS....with a 305...look like a 91 or 92 Z28? That's what they are against? I'd be against that too.....definently....with a V6....!....thanks for clearing me up on that Abubaca
No need to apologize for anything, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Clone
The only things I haven't changed on my '92 RS are the fog lights and the hood (some Z28's came with an RS grill) I will be using a low rise cowl induction hood. (don't like the blisters) and yes, I am changing all the badges.
Everything under the car is just like a Z-28 (albeit upgraded). See sig.
Everything under the car is just like a Z-28 (albeit upgraded). See sig.
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None of the 91-92 Z28's came with an RS grill.....now..the B4C RS Camaro's.....(police package) which were basically Z28's dressed as an RS....but....no 91 or 92 Z28's came with an RS grill....the 91 and 92 1LE Z28's had the bowtie Z28 grill too....but....had the foglight delete......not trying to start anything....just wanted to clear that up....
owning a car of any description leads to customisation
is why there is such a huge aftermarket ...people have been doing it since day 1
car shows
go to a car show and see row upon row of mint /concourse cars
in 15 years time maybe they will be third gens .......BUT are we going to get **** about someone adding an interior mirror to a car that didnt hav one on its rpo codes ????? will that devalue the car ??????
a z28 ordered with manual windows upgraded to power coz the 2nd owner wanted them ??????
customisation is what we all do with cars
mine is and will allways be an RS ..i,,,,RS has a great heritage and nothing to be sneezed at
is why there is such a huge aftermarket ...people have been doing it since day 1 car shows
go to a car show and see row upon row of mint /concourse cars
in 15 years time maybe they will be third gens .......BUT are we going to get **** about someone adding an interior mirror to a car that didnt hav one on its rpo codes ????? will that devalue the car ??????
a z28 ordered with manual windows upgraded to power coz the 2nd owner wanted them ??????
customisation is what we all do with cars

mine is and will allways be an RS ..i,,,,RS has a great heritage and nothing to be sneezed at
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Personal opinion I don't like clones. I think that it is alright to change around and interchange parts i just don't think it should have "FAKE" badges. Just and opinion!!
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Originally posted by Abubaca
I have this argument before....
AUSRS....Do you consider that a clone? I don't....and I hate clones. That car is beautiful, and it clearly is marked "RS".
It's not the parts or the motor.....it's the markings that make the "clone/non-clone".
I must be gay, because I think cloning sucks. I've never flamed anyone for doing it, and I don't get all pissed off, it's not the end of the world, but it's just not right.
I have this argument before....
AUSRS....Do you consider that a clone? I don't....and I hate clones. That car is beautiful, and it clearly is marked "RS".
It's not the parts or the motor.....it's the markings that make the "clone/non-clone".
I must be gay, because I think cloning sucks. I've never flamed anyone for doing it, and I don't get all pissed off, it's not the end of the world, but it's just not right.
I don't see why everyone has such a problem with cloning, I wouldn't do it myself, but it doesn't bother me....
The way I see it, just take you favorite pieces from the one you like and use 'em...if I didn't have my RS emblems (and you couldn't use my VIN#) it would be hard to tell exactly what it is:
IROC/Grid lights
IROC Grille w/foglights
91-92 GFX
Z28 High Rise Spoiler
16x8" S-10 Extreme Wheels
SS Hood
RS Emblems
but I don't call my car a IROC/SS/Z28/S-10 Extreme (lol!)
...it's just my plain ol' RS
and I'm damn proud of it!
The way I see it, just take you favorite pieces from the one you like and use 'em...if I didn't have my RS emblems (and you couldn't use my VIN#) it would be hard to tell exactly what it is:
IROC/Grid lights
IROC Grille w/foglights
91-92 GFX
Z28 High Rise Spoiler
16x8" S-10 Extreme Wheels
SS Hood
RS Emblems
but I don't call my car a IROC/SS/Z28/S-10 Extreme (lol!)
...it's just my plain ol' RS
and I'm damn proud of it! Well when you get into custom stuff, badges don't matter to me....
When i get done with the mods as shown in the sig......it's staying with "RS" badges......
IMO, if you do EVERYTHING, to make a Z28, then you can place the badges on there......BUT don't make up stuff like an "SS" or even worse....."Z28-R"......lol....
When i get done with the mods as shown in the sig......it's staying with "RS" badges......
IMO, if you do EVERYTHING, to make a Z28, then you can place the badges on there......BUT don't make up stuff like an "SS" or even worse....."Z28-R"......lol....
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Or.....you could just do away with all the badges....just mud'em over....it would look cool....and nobody would know really what it was......although not to many people notice....when I start doing the body work to my 91....I'm going to shave the antenna....and add those 1980-1981 Z28 fender louvers.....
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Don't worry, I wouldn't sell this as a REAL badge
hehe....I crack myself up.
OK OK, I know how temperamental ya'll get...I'm only having fun, please don't get pissed.
hehe....I crack myself up.

OK OK, I know how temperamental ya'll get...I'm only having fun, please don't get pissed.






