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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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decluttering engine bay

Ok so i need to know if anyone has tips or tricks on things they did to declutter there engine bay!

things i want too keep are a/c

i dont need heat

i know i can relocate battery to the hatch and that the charcoal canister can be removed.

If anyone has pics of what they did with the windshield cleaner bottle and the coolant bottle that would be cool. so anything you guys did too keep your bay looking open post them up!
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

here is mine..... i dont have ac but i do have heat...... got rid of alot of things and relocated the coolant tank and the charcoal canister...... Name:  enginebay3.jpg
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

Things I'm doing/planning to do to my engine bay:

1 - Swapped V6 to Carb V8 - ton of wires gone

2 - Relocated the Charcoal can to behind the front bumper cover, in front of the radiator

3 - Replaced the Coolant and Washer jugs with a smaller combo piece from a 90's Explorer, may eventually move this behind the front bumper cover as well, depending on room
4 - Removed Cruise Control (don't like) and A/C (don't need - got T-tops)

5 - Switching to V-belts (I know, I know) with new engine

6 - Will eventually relocate battery to spare tire compartment

7 - Re-route fuel/return/vapor/brake lines

8 - Re-route wiring harness to upper part of wheel well, above the plastic liner and along the underside of the fender/firewall lips in the engine bay

I have also started to smooth out the engine bay starting with welding sheet metal in to the battery trays on both sides of the engine bay in front and welding a patch piece into the hole in the firewall from the cruise control
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

how about pictures?
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

At the moment, the front of the car is stripped bare pretty much, but I can get pics of the Coolant/Washer tank and the battery trays up once I get the file server they are stored on up and running again.
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

This is currently what my car looks like under the hood. All emmissons equipment has been removed along with a full AC delete and removal of cruise control. I've still got my bottles, but those may disappear in the future depending on what cool things I can find to replace them. Also, all wiring has been moved to the outside or hidden from veiw so it almost looks like and old school ride when you open the hood and it's all motor staring back at you...



The engine bay isn't perfect, but it looks better under there than it did when I bought it in 2005...



At some point in the near future I'll be replacing my brake booster, swapping to a LS1 style master cylinder, and getting new cast/camber plates.

As for ditching the heat and keeping the AC...if you seriously want to ditch the heat I would ditch the entire setup under the hood and go with a vintage air system tha mounts under the dash in the cabin. You'll lose the heater box and all the associated equipment from under the hood. Just a thought. Good luck with your decluttering project.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

any pics of the 90 explorer dual bottle?

i dont need the heat because it doesnt get driven during the winter but the summers do get rather muggy and humid and i dont like too stick too leather seats.

i was thinking of trying to relocate all the wiring to where it enters somewhere in the transtunnel so it comes up behind the engine and hiding most of it. im just worried about it melting lol.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

Here's some pics of the bottle. Like I said, the car is stripped bare from the firewall up for the V8 swap, but you can get the general idea. Sorry, they are a little dark but all I had was my cell phone.

I wouldn't run the wiring up the trans tunnel, too much work. Plus, like you said, you have the heat factor to deal with. I would run it inside the fender support rails or up under the wheel wells above the plastic inner liners. Less work to relocate them there, and no heat issues. If you run them above the fender liners, I would wrap them in that black plastic conduit stuff and then wrap that in electrical tape to keep out any water or dirt. Few things suck as bad as trying to troubleshoot an electrical problem when the wiring is caked in dirt and muck.

STRC09 - Where did you get that STB? I love the way that looks! Too bad I'm swapping to carb and not TPI.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

Originally Posted by chris.niemann84
how about pictures?

Here's some progress pics of the battery trays after I got the sheet metal welded in. It's all the pics I've got so far of that process.

Had to put off any more smoothing work so I can get the car back on the road for the summer. The car is an ongoing summer driver/winter project so I figured I can always finish it next winter.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

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STRC09 - Where did you get that STB? I love the way that looks! Too bad I'm swapping to carb and not TPI.
I ordered it from Hawk's back in 06. Thanks.

What kind of bottle are you using? What did it come out of?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

A lot of the wiring that runs along the pass. side frame rail can be moved inside the pass. side fender, and it'll come out by the battery tray. Some very minor splicing is needed but it's pretty easy...
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

Originally Posted by strc09
I ordered it from Hawk's back in 06. Thanks.

What kind of bottle are you using? What did it come out of?
I pulled from a Ford Explorer at the local U-Pull. Not sure of the year, but I think it was an early-mid 90's. I'm pretty sure I saw a Ranger there with the same one.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Re: decluttering engine bay

Originally Posted by Abubaca
A lot of the wiring that runs along the pass. side frame rail can be moved inside the pass. side fender, and it'll come out by the battery tray. Some very minor splicing is needed but it's pretty easy...
The other thing you could do with the passenger side wiring harness is separate the wires by where they go in the engine bay. Then run the ones that go to the front of the engine bay along the fender like abubaca said. The ones that go to the back of the engine or to the transmission(like the VSS & Reverse wires) you can run inside the firewall. This is on my 92 RS, but I would assume they are all the same. If you look above where the harness comes out the side of the firewall, in front of the door you will see a black plastic flap. This is supposed to be a water drain for the cowl area I believe. You could run the wires through this flap and up into the cowl area then out cut a hole in the firewall for the wires to pass through and come out behind the distributor. This would work especially well if you have TPI or some type of large, tall intake on the engine that blocks your view of that area.

For a stock setup, this would work good for VSS, Reverse Lights, Coil, EST, Oil Pressure, O2 sensor(s), and probably a few others. I don't know how much this would work for a carb setup like I'm switching to, but I like the idea so I'm gonna look into it a bit more when I get a chance.
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