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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Alright so I was contemplating the 50$ paint job. Then realized it'd be a bitch to get off. So how much does macco charge without jamb's and some bondo. I just wan't it resprayed and fix the chips in the paint and make it all the same red. How much do they usually charge?
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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I had a bad experience with Maaco. I was flipping a Lincoln ls and did the primer and body work myself. It was done right. I had Maaco just shoot the car single stage black for $300. I went to get the car and it had a ton of orange peel, a huge sag in the door, and it looked like the 'professional' painter hit the car a few times with the air hose and tried to spot it in after the car was baked.

Needless to say, I spent far too many hours on this car making it look presentable than It was worth. I say don't do it.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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In before someone says, "Plast-Dip it!"...
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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I planned on doing plati-dip but not really sure if I could get it glossy red.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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no maco thats even harder to get off the trim tires and everything else they spray.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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MACCO $600

And MACCO $700



Do the body work yourself
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...ed-camaro.html

Plasti Dip it
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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paint it yourself
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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maaco is a franchise , some are good some are not . ask your local shop for referances . check out the track record they have . good luck .
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Maaco gets an unfair bad rap from A few really bad jobs out there. Talk to the manager, explain your fears, look at some examples done in that shop (they should have a few cars waiting to be picked up) and make sure that if you have sags, drips and other obvious problems, it will be corrected.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by 89iroc89
I planned on doing plati-dip
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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I have seen some fine Macco jobs and some not so good one's.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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Judging the pics I have seen, they look very good. The problem lies in what happens in the future.. If you do all the body work yourself and get everything right, I think they can lay some paint and buff it out.. With that being said, I am a firm believer that you pay for what you get.. If you spend $300 on paint and Clearcoat, you have what you have.. Is it quality paint? I am very novice and am going to find someone who is going to do my project, but with that, I am paying top dollar... It is a preference of what people can afford.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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Macco paint job here......$700.

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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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macco 5-600 $'s cant recall exactly its been about 6 years
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car looks just as good as the day it was painted
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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Re: Macco?

Those look really good. They must take alot of pride as it shows... Did you have any overspray or problems that you had to fix, and what prep work did you have to do? Was the car shelled are as they sit now?
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by ibmtech
Those look really good. They must take alot of pride as it shows... Did you have any overspray or problems that you had to fix, and what prep work did you have to do? Was the car shelled are as they sit now?

no real body work , we fixed 2 very minor rust spots on the rockers , and a lil bit of work were we welded in the wheel tubs.

other then that we scuffed the factory paint and sent it off , car only had 14k original miles on it , was owned by a nun who drove it 2 miles back and forth to the grocery store

we trust the owner of that so much we even sent the car with the weld wheels on it and not a single spot of overspray on them or the tires

we did take the trim off and pull the engine/trans before we sent the car off since we redid all the trim in house not to mention the trim is hard to come by so we didnt wanna risk somone damaging it

they even masked off in the engine bay were i had painted the bottom of the car with gm chassi black resto paint , the whole bottom of the car was black and up onto the front frame rails .we did tell them to not worry about the trunk though as we knew we were going to spray it with grey trunk splatter paint

they even masked off under the rockers so they wouldnt get the yellow under the car

when it comes to macco u really need to research each indivudal shop , alot of them dont care about quality but rather the volume of cars they can paint , these are the shops u need to stay away from

a good shop owner will sit down with u and adress any concerns u have about the paint job
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Macco?

Very Nice... They did a great job.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Re: Macco?

Looks like your local Maaco is better than mine. This is when I dropped it off.

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This is after 3 weeks of color sanding and polishing.

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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Honestly? When you're talking about the look and quality of a paint job, pictures really don't mean crap. Everything looks better in pictures when it comes to cars. It's better to judge the quality of a paint job in person IMO.
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by carlos64030
Honestly? When you're talking about the look and quality of a paint job, pictures really don't mean crap. Everything looks better in pictures when it comes to cars. It's better to judge the quality of a paint job in person IMO.
the paint on the plymouth looks 100x better in person paint is smooth as glass, they did a really nice job.

but like i said we know and trust the shop owner
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Re: Macco?

Ok well have you considered the $100 rolled on paint job, im in the process of doing it now, and have finished the hood already and it looks like a new sprayed on paint job but it sure does take some time and effort if ur willing to put forth ill help you through it if needed
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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Ok well have you considered the $100 rolled on paint job, im in the process of doing it now, and have finished the hood already and it looks like a new sprayed on paint job but it sure does take some time and effort if ur willing to put forth ill help you through it if needed
been there done that stop while ur ahead
mine came out very nice u couldnt tell it was rolled on but it served its purpose as a tempoary paint job and has been stripped off the car

take the 100-150 bucks in supplies u need and put it away , then put away 10 bucks or whatever a week when u have enough take the car to macco

u will be miles ahead
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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Re: Macco?

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been there done that stop while ur ahead
mine came out very nice u couldnt tell it was rolled on but it served its purpose as a tempoary paint job and has been stripped off the car

take the 100-150 bucks in supplies u need and put it away , then put away 10 bucks or whatever a week when u have enough take the car to macco

u will be miles ahead
well we all have our own opinions but mine is that the rolled on paint job is the way to go, I did the hood first and the frnt fender and roof, and all three turned out with a mirror like finish, and besides what girlfreind is going to know the difference lol. Also im doing it in high gloss profesional white so its alot easier then doing black, anyways this is going to be my new painting method when i buy a car as it works awsome
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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Re: Macco?

I will say though that ur yellow car looks great for a macco job but it might have been luck that it turned out so great, regardless nice paint
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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a friend of mine has an original 1970 monte carlo and prepped his car himself and had it ready for spray Macco did it (this was in 88) and it came out great (metallic astro blue). he still has the car and it is still a show car and in great shape. I had a 57 Chevy in 89 and he helped me prep it and again it was like glass. 0 orange peel! I no longer have the car but it was really nice 70 K documented miles on her.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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Re: Macco?

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Ok well have you considered the $100 rolled on paint job
That sounds scary.. Unless i was just trying to make a beater look better, nobody better go anywhere near my car with a roller.

If that works for you, that's fine. I think that statement just adds to the negative stigma associated with these cars. I'm not trying to be a downer or poo-poo your car. Just saying that it's a practice that I would not trust for a high quality finish. I'd go to maaco before i rolled anything onto my car.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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I am now thinking that now Macco is getting a bad rap or everyone else is seriously over charging.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Re: Macco?

I've had 3 Maaco paint jobs. The one I had the most trouble with was the highest priced one with a clearcoat. The clearcoat peeled off in about 3 years. Stick with one of the cheaper options. But check out the work that is being done at each particular shop. They do not all put out the same quality of work. I'd personally stay away from the ones that do fleet cars. Those they "scuff and shoot" and it shows.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:03 PM
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Re: Macco?

yeah, if I was getting a maaco job, I would get a single stage paint, pay for an extra coat or two, and then I would wet sand and buff it to a mirror finish.

Cheap clear can be problematic, with the respray window, ect...
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Re: Macco?

The only problem I have currently is I am going to have ghost flames and the IROC-Z will be airbrushed on.. That is why I think I have to go else where.. But, I must say, that my opinion has changed from some of the work that I have seen..
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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I did all of the body work myself as well, and had it painted at maaco.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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That is very clean... Good choice on your color. I like the interior too


Originally Posted by GreggymacZ28
I did all of the body work myself as well, and had it painted at maaco.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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Thanks!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by Ruckusz28
That sounds scary.. Unless i was just trying to make a beater look better, nobody better go anywhere near my car with a roller.

If that works for you, that's fine. I think that statement just adds to the negative stigma associated with these cars. I'm not trying to be a downer or poo-poo your car. Just saying that it's a practice that I would not trust for a high quality finish. I'd go to maaco before i rolled anything onto my car.
Not really go check it out on hot rod forum, just type in the rolled on falcon paint job, this method was featured on hot rod tv, and it all started on a mopar forum which has like a million views and alot of great cars painted this way.
Its basicaly the way they use to paint cars in the 80s-90s
you get a high density foam roller, and start with 600wet then sand and work you way up to 1500 or 200 gritt like 8 coats or 6 coats total, then buff and polish its really alot better then ur thinking. ur picturing some trailer trash guy on his lawn with a bif roller and just slapping it on probably lol, its as good as a spray job but dont let me save you the money and mess
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 02:23 AM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by s10sbc350
its as good as a spray job but dont let me save you the money and mess
its no were near the same as a spray job, and nowere as any good, the paint lacks hardners and uv protection.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:59 AM
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Re: Macco?

ive seen good and real bad come from maaco. i also think it depends on the individual doing the work, and the quality of paint.

never seen any cheap spraybomb, brush, or roller jobs hold up after any considerable time.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 06:16 AM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by project89
its no were near the same as a spray job, and nowere as any good, the paint lacks hardners and uv protection.
Good point. Regardless, all those shows (powerblock etc.) are just huge paid advertisements trying to get their product sold. It's amazing what good marketing will make people believe.

I understand that it's an affordable measure for many. However, that's like comparing the new england patriots with the detroit lions.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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Re: Macco?

my Macco experience was good, just do the prep yourself, remove everything u dont want paint on lol and send her off.

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Re: Macco?

I had my car painted at Maaco. They did all the body work, the doors were really wavy and had some dings. I took off all the gfx, spoilers and rear bumper. I stepped up and got their most expensive paint job and then had them two tone it on top of that, with a silver pinstripe to break it up. I spent $2400 on mine and it looks beautiful.
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I would absolutely take any of my cars back there, including my Iroc to get it freshened up. My Maaco does full on restorations of musclecars and I got to see several cars in process and completed. I was really impressed with the work they were doing and it made me feel completely confident to have them do all the bodywork and spray my car.
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by project89
its no were near the same as a spray job, and nowere as any good, the paint lacks hardners and uv protection.
sorry but im going to have to call B.S as i remember reading one you can add hardener in the paint but its un needed, and 2. Im not 100% sure if im remembering correct but the buffing and polishing is for the extra protection and it's supposed to be done like 2 times a year, but anyways t's not as good as a sprayed on paint job? It can be as good as you want it to be as the more wet sanding and more coats you do the better it gets. Im not sure if you read any of the hundreds of forums that have a few members doing it but this works wether some people will agree or not, and i know for a fact as m seeing great results and im not even tying that hard to make it perfect and i do a little paint every weekend. Just go look it up if ur going to say an opinion before trying it or, doing alot of research witch i have done both.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by s10sbc350
sorry but im going to have to call B.S as i remember reading one you can add hardener in the paint but its un needed, and 2. Im not 100% sure if im remembering correct but the buffing and polishing is for the extra protection and it's supposed to be done like 2 times a year, but anyways t's not as good as a sprayed on paint job? It can be as good as you want it to be as the more wet sanding and more coats you do the better it gets. Im not sure if you read any of the hundreds of forums that have a few members doing it but this works wether some people will agree or not, and i know for a fact as m seeing great results and im not even tying that hard to make it perfect and i do a little paint every weekend. Just go look it up if ur going to say an opinion before trying it or, doing alot of research witch i have done both.
Also this comment isnt meant to be offensive i was just stating some stuff as this isnt a bad way to paint, oh and hot rod tv gaining any profit from advertizing it, lol how from how little money they had to spend to paint the ford falcon, lol they dont sell the sandpaper you use, the rustoleum paint, or the high density foam roller, it's simply the same as the cars in 80's were painted you paint then sand the imperfections in it every other coat untill ur above 1500 gritt the buff and polish, im out
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by s10sbc350
sorry but im going to have to call B.S as i remember reading one you can add hardener in the paint but its un needed, and 2. Im not 100% sure if im remembering correct but the buffing and polishing is for the extra protection and it's supposed to be done like 2 times a year, but anyways t's not as good as a sprayed on paint job? It can be as good as you want it to be as the more wet sanding and more coats you do the better it gets. Im not sure if you read any of the hundreds of forums that have a few members doing it but this works wether some people will agree or not, and i know for a fact as m seeing great results and im not even tying that hard to make it perfect and i do a little paint every weekend. Just go look it up if ur going to say an opinion before trying it or, doing alot of research witch i have done both.
ive done this exact paint job , ive wetsanded and buffed the hell out of it, i know how well the paint holds up or should i say doesnt hold up.

ive did this exact paint job unlike others who bash it and have never done it

red will turn orange or pink if u dont constantly buff and wax it
blue turns to a pastel blue color
white will yellow over time

etc etc

not to mention the fact that all ur wetsanding now while u paint is for nothing , it takes atleast 2 months for the paint to fully cure , so between each coat that ur wetsanding it will shrink as the paint dries causing more orange peel down the road

not to mention u cant paint over the stuff once its on the car u need to strip it to bare metal


by the time u do the cheap paint job and get it looking half decent + the upkeep on it u could have goten a real automotive grade paint sprayed on the car

my paint stayed soft for 3.5 months after i put it on and i live were there is 0 humidity and its always atleast 80* in the summer typically its much hotter in the day


so go ahead and keep painting ur car with it even though im telling u ive been there and done that and its a waste of time, other members here who have done the same exact ppaint job will tell u the same thing
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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Re: Macco?

oh and btw u could have went on summitracing.com and got 1gallon of real paint + the right reducer + the right activator for 80-120$'s for the whole kit and put that on ur car with a roller and be miles ahead as its real automotive paint with the correct hardners and uv protection agents


if u wanna do the roller method atleast get the right kind of paint , but do note that metalics will not roll on right
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 10:59 PM
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Re: Macco?

This seems to have evolved into a Maaco/Roller paint job thread. I've already stated my opinion about Maaco (for it) but I have also roller/rattle can painted an old '69 Nova that I had as a work car many years ago using flat black. My youngest daughter helped me paint the black. We then taped off the front end and airbrushed on some flames. I drove that car for about 3 years and never touched the paint again and still got compliments on the paint job even with rusty (but flat black) wheel wells. That being said, I think that you need to go with whatever paint you want and can afford. Make it "pretty"
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by project89
ive done this exact paint job , ive wetsanded and buffed the hell out of it, i know how well the paint holds up or should i say doesnt hold up.

ive did this exact paint job unlike others who bash it and have never done it

red will turn orange or pink if u dont constantly buff and wax it
blue turns to a pastel blue color
white will yellow over time

etc etc

not to mention the fact that all ur wetsanding now while u paint is for nothing , it takes atleast 2 months for the paint to fully cure , so between each coat that ur wetsanding it will shrink as the paint dries causing more orange peel down the road

not to mention u cant paint over the stuff once its on the car u need to strip it to bare metal


by the time u do the cheap paint job and get it looking half decent + the upkeep on it u could have goten a real automotive grade paint sprayed on the car

my paint stayed soft for 3.5 months after i put it on and i live were there is 0 humidity and its always atleast 80* in the summer typically its much hotter in the day


so go ahead and keep painting ur car with it even though im telling u ive been there and done that and its a waste of time, other members here who have done the same exact ppaint job will tell u the same thing
Are you sure it will turn yellow over time, as i have never heard about that hapening, if you can please post the link to that info as id like to read abut it, thanx
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Re: Macco?

Let's keep on the topic, but with a different question:

Anyone had Maaco do their body work, not just shoot the paint? My 88 needs to lose, literally, 3 coats of paint and bad filler jobs.
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by s10sbc350
Are you sure it will turn yellow over time, as i have never heard about that hapening, if you can please post the link to that info as id like to read abut it, thanx
first hand experiance , we used to use this paint to paint machine fixtures and machinery, on stuff used and stored outside the stuff would not hold up
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Re: Macco?

Originally Posted by Maverick H1L
Let's keep on the topic, but with a different question:

Anyone had Maaco do their body work, not just shoot the paint? My 88 needs to lose, literally, 3 coats of paint and bad filler jobs.
Main reason I did my own body work was that the price they gave me kept getting higher and higher the more he walked around my car. I decided to do all my own body work over the next month, and it worked to my benefit. I gave them less chance to make a mistake, and It probably cut the price by 2/3.
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