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I was at the local car wash and i decided to wash my car with the brush instead of the wand. and know there are swirl marks everywhere, how can i get rid of them, and will waxing it work, and one more thing whats a sleeper. thanks
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You could try polish but that will only take out very light scratches. Or you could buff it out with a light compound. I hope you know what your doing though!!! A sleeper is a car that appears stock but is a beast (beast meaning its badass and very quick). This term gets thrown around a lot though.
BTW-I'm sure you've learned your lesson but in case you didn't, don't ever use the brush for anything other than the wheels and maybe the underbody.
BTW-I'm sure you've learned your lesson but in case you didn't, don't ever use the brush for anything other than the wheels and maybe the underbody.
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Well thats great but brushes are naturally going to scratch the car paint bacause 1)they're made of plastic bristles that usually have frayed ends 2) most people use the brush to only scrub thier wheels (this means they have wheel scrubing solution on them which eats away at paint). brushes are not car paint friendly.
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Yeah, happened to me too. The brushes were hoghair, and clearcoat safe. I followed all directions clearning it out before using it, and have swirl marks all over now. My Zaino arrived 3 days ago though, so hopefully that'll take some of them out. If not, I'll get it buffed.
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are you serious!! Wow nice. What is the name of this place. I have never heard of that. All the places I've ever been to have plastic bristles that are chewed to hell. In that case I'm not sure what the softness of the horse hair is like or how it reacts on paint. Can't help ya with that one. As for getting the scratches out just get some good polish and buff the car with it. If that doesn't work then get some light buffing compound (can't think of any of the top of my head) and try that. If you have a clear coat make sure you get clear coat safe polish and buffing compound. They should have some. Be careful not to keep the buffer in one place too long.
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Look out for the kind of polish you get some polish and waxs are ment to put swirl marks. Carnuba by mothers doesn't to that though. Thats some good $h!T.
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Originally posted by redbird_400
Look out for the kind of polish you get some polish and waxs are ment to put swirl marks. Carnuba by mothers doesn't to that though. Thats some good $h!T.
Look out for the kind of polish you get some polish and waxs are ment to put swirl marks. Carnuba by mothers doesn't to that though. Thats some good $h!T.
Zaino Show Car Polish contains no Abrasives or Silicone oils. Although abrasives
remove scratches they create new scratches and swirls and they thin out the
clear-coat. Silicone oil camouflages swirls and scratches, temporarily, as soon as the
oil washes away or evaporates the swirls are visible again. Kinda a Catch-22. Z-5
fills swirls and scratches and does not create any new scratches. Because Z-5
durability is so high and will not wash away. The scratches will stay filled. That's
the hot ticket to a flawless paint finish.
The Z-5 is applied, as per directions, and will fill swirls and scratches in stages. One
to three coats of Z-5 depending on the amount and degree of scratches. Z-2 should
always be the last coat of polish on the car. Z-2 has higher optics than Z-5. You can
go from Z-2 to Z-5 and back to Z-2 anytime you like. Always use Z-6 "Gloss
Enhancer spray between each and ever coat of Z-5 or Z-2.
With deeper swirls and fine scratches sometimes the use of an mild abrasive product
like 3M Foam Polishing Pad Glaze Swirl Mark Remover #39009 is necessary.. I try
to avoid the use of abrasives and would try my best with Z5, to see if it will correct
the problem. However if you don't see a visible difference after 1 or 2 coats of Z-5.
Waiting 6 to 24 hours between coats of Z-5... Then you need to use the 3M Foam
Polishing Pad Glaze Swirl Mark Remover #39009... see following tips...
3M Foam Polishing Pad Glaze use By hand:
Simply apply a small amount (about the size of a quarter) to a cotton diaper or piece
of cotton towel and rub back and forth into about a 1'X 1' section using light to
medium pressure until it starts to dry out. Then take a second towel and lightly rub
back and forth until the polish residue disappears and the gloss comes up. If there
are still some swirls visible you can repeat this step until they are minimal. I prefer
using a less aggressive product a couple times instead of using a more aggressive
product once. After you have done the entire car you can Dawn wash and reapply
your favorite wax/polish or Zaino Z-1 and Z-5/Z-2.
remove scratches they create new scratches and swirls and they thin out the
clear-coat. Silicone oil camouflages swirls and scratches, temporarily, as soon as the
oil washes away or evaporates the swirls are visible again. Kinda a Catch-22. Z-5
fills swirls and scratches and does not create any new scratches. Because Z-5
durability is so high and will not wash away. The scratches will stay filled. That's
the hot ticket to a flawless paint finish.
The Z-5 is applied, as per directions, and will fill swirls and scratches in stages. One
to three coats of Z-5 depending on the amount and degree of scratches. Z-2 should
always be the last coat of polish on the car. Z-2 has higher optics than Z-5. You can
go from Z-2 to Z-5 and back to Z-2 anytime you like. Always use Z-6 "Gloss
Enhancer spray between each and ever coat of Z-5 or Z-2.
With deeper swirls and fine scratches sometimes the use of an mild abrasive product
like 3M Foam Polishing Pad Glaze Swirl Mark Remover #39009 is necessary.. I try
to avoid the use of abrasives and would try my best with Z5, to see if it will correct
the problem. However if you don't see a visible difference after 1 or 2 coats of Z-5.
Waiting 6 to 24 hours between coats of Z-5... Then you need to use the 3M Foam
Polishing Pad Glaze Swirl Mark Remover #39009... see following tips...
3M Foam Polishing Pad Glaze use By hand:
Simply apply a small amount (about the size of a quarter) to a cotton diaper or piece
of cotton towel and rub back and forth into about a 1'X 1' section using light to
medium pressure until it starts to dry out. Then take a second towel and lightly rub
back and forth until the polish residue disappears and the gloss comes up. If there
are still some swirls visible you can repeat this step until they are minimal. I prefer
using a less aggressive product a couple times instead of using a more aggressive
product once. After you have done the entire car you can Dawn wash and reapply
your favorite wax/polish or Zaino Z-1 and Z-5/Z-2.
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