I'm usually pretty good at noticing the subtle differences between the different generation Camaro's, but I just CAN'T see the difference between an 85-90 and 91-92 front bumper cover on a Camaro. What are the actual physical differences?

The reason I'm asking is that I plan on converting my 87 IROC to the apperance of an 91-92 Z-28.

 

Well I'd tell you its the mounting holes for 87-90 and 91-92 but someone will come along and tell me I'm stupid, so I have no offical input.

 

The earlier fascia's had a small sloping part on the nose. The 91-92 nose is a lot larger, which is why the 91-92 camaro's have a lower appearance, because the spoiler actually hangs lower off the bigger fascia.

Mathius

 

Anybody have any side by side comparison pics? The only thing I notice is that the later style ground effects are"pointer", but that's just the ground effects, they don't seem lower and the nose doesn't seem lower. I see no actual difference in the nose.

 

Good eyes Mike. There is no difference. The GM parts catalog lists the same part number (16503496) for the '85-'87 Z28/IROC & '88-'92 all Camaro.

 

Sweet deal I can save myself about two grand then.

 

Sorry, but you're wrong. Part #16503496 IS listed for all years. In fact there's two listings, 82-90 and 91-92 under that part number.

However, part #16503478 is also listed, which is exclusively for 82-87 front ends.

You'd have to check with someone on the history boards to sort this out, but there's definately a difference, look it up.

Mathius

 

Here's the earlier style front clip. It has a slightly shorter slant, because the lower half of it has vents on it, and the front spoiler is definately shorter, although that's a separate part from the fascia, the title definately is "front bumper", so I have to assume he's talking about the whole front end, since our cars don't have a traditional bumper.



Mathius

 

Mathius, your a fool. Get your facts straight prior to posting.

From 1982-1984 there were two front ends (bumpers) and one spoiler (for the Z28)
Z28 (see mine )
Berlinetta and Sport Coupe (no spoiler)

From 1985-1990 there were two front, ends two grilles and one spoiler
Berlinetta and Sport Coupe (no spoiler)
Z28, RS (full grille) and IROC (grille for fog lights)

From 1991-1992 there was one front end one spoiler and two grilles (front end carried over from 1985-1990, but had different holes for the updated ground effects of 1991-1992)
RS (full grille) and Z28 (grille for fog lights)

If you guys want, I can add pictures to my examples ...

 

I did do complete side by side comparisons a while ago, but some of my pics are not coming through, only the tail lights. But, that was before we could post pics directly. I will post the three comparisons (front, side and rear) again by just attaching them as images, but won't get around to it until Sunday.
For now,
click here

 

I'm sure you meant to say "Mathius, you're a fool." Anyways, my first question would be what part of what I said was false information, and my second question would be what did I say that warranted such a troll-ish and adolecent response?

I flat out stated I wasn't sure on the production changes (my reference to the history boards), but I was pointing out that there was definately a second option for the fascia's. What part of that is an incorrect fact? I'm not a walking car dictionary, I'm actually rather new to it, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look up part numbers from a manual.

Mathius

 

I had just replaced the front bumper cover with one from an '85 and it fit just as perfect as the original.The only difference was that I had to drill 2 holes for the emblem since this one didn't have any.The lower efx and grills are the only differences between the 85-90 and 91-92 IROCS/Z28s.

 

I have a collision guide (gm part numbers) on my website (link in sig) if you'd like to cross reference year/part numbers the interchange.

 

Some of you guys replied in the sense that I was asking the difference between ALL model years. The earlier models with the deeper turn signals, boxier noses and having or lacking the vents is pretty obvious. As I was saying, the 85-90 and 91-92 LOOK identical....the only reason I even questioned a diference in the first place is that if you look for Head Light Covers for Camaro's there's a different part number for 85-90 IROC's and 91-92 Z-28's...

 

I think they are EXACTLY the same.....sure the ground effects are different...but the actual nose.....are the same...99.9% sure

 

In all the parts catalogs that I have they list the 85-90 and 91-92IROC/Z28 as the same nose,it is pretty obvious by looking at them.The only revisions are the grills,provisions for the nose emblem, and ground efx.

 

Hes right

But heres the Bumper Brake Down agen

82-84 Z28
82-84 Berlinetta and Sport Coupe
85-86 Berlinetta, Sport Coupe and LT
85-92 IrocZ, Z28, RS, and 88Sport Coupe

(85-90 had a Diffrent Lower Spoilers But the the Uper part is the same as 91-92)

So thats the Bumper Brake Down

 

I see you stated the only difference between 85-90 and 91-92 is the holes for the lower spoiler. If 85-92 fronts all used the same part number, 16503496, how can I identify what year my bumper is correct for? It's in a box with the GM part number mentioned above.

 

wow this is old.....