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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

I picked this up last summer and have been driving behind it this season.
I'm undecided.
I'll say one thing though, I wanted a cowl hood for the cold air intake and I'll finish it soon. At least I'll have that.
I preferer the look of the original cowl hood that came on the 1st gen Camaros. Not as high as this one and there's a little overhang built along the trailing edge of the cowl.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

get it painted, i think it would look better painted but in all i think the hood is good theres better but theres worse too!
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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I have the steel 2in. Goodmark similar to that one and would not have any other.IMO nice pick.




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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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get it painted, i think it would look better painted but in all i think the hood is good theres better but theres worse too!
I think that it would probably be a better look painted too.
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Old Aug 10, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

Originally Posted by Ron U.S.M.C.
I have the steel 2in. Goodmark similar to that one and would not have any other.IMO nice pick.
I always like the look of yours. The stripes work well.
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

fyi.look out your windshield and imagine the two inch rise in the hood and be sure it won't distract your eyes.i have the cowl hood and it sometimes blocks my view of the road.i even added a one inch spacer under my forth gen seats.
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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

I find that, yes, it does block my view. Particularly when I'm trying to park and need to see directly in front or over the right side fender.
2" for this hood is an understatement I think.
Still, I think of the benefits of the cold air induction and I figure I can live with the drawbacks.
What I like least is that it makes much less the sleeper than it was.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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I find that, yes, it does block my view. Particularly when I'm trying to park and need to see directly in front or over the right side fender.
2" for this hood is an understatement I think.
Still, I think of the benefits of the cold air induction and I figure I can live with the drawbacks.
What I like least is that it makes much less the sleeper than it was.
I hate to bust your bubble here, but the cooler air won't make much of a difference. It's the pressure variances collecting more air that make the difference. I honestly wouldn't put a cowl hood on my car, mostly because of the visibility issues.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

WHAT!!? i noticed a difference when i had my sunoco hood, my engine temps were alot cooler and that made a difference in a hp. now i have the ss hood with the center cut out and the back to let hot air out and when cruising my temp stays under the second mark which i believe is 180ish
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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I hate to bust your bubble here, but the cooler air won't make much of a difference. It's the pressure variances collecting more air that make the difference. I honestly wouldn't put a cowl hood on my car, mostly because of the visibility issues.
I hear you regarding the visibilty issue. For me it from both the inside (can't see as well) and the outside (I don't like attracting attention).
However the benefits of a cold air induction system are indisputable. Reducing the temperature of the air being supplied to the carb or throttle body from 190° to 80° or 90° is worth additional torque everywhere in the rev range. Published papers say as much as 25 ft/lbs are realized with a supply of cold air.
What's as important to me is that I can keep the air inlet temps consistent. On a hot summer day, idling around town, I'm drawing in underhood air which is easily approaching 200° and my performance levels are noticably down when comparing it to a cool fall evening when I'm cruising. My AFRs change noticeably so that's telling me something.

I agree you 100% about the pressure collecting or ram air.

Obviously your experiences are different. Every car is different and there are too many variables to be able to say that "it worked for me so it work for you".

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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

It's all about how you get the air into the engine that makes the difference. I've seen cars on the dyno only get a 2% gain with a cold air setup, much more with a ram air, but that's on a dyno, not in a wind tunnel where it would actually simulate being on the road. It's really the cowl itself that is working the magic, but one could also argue that having no hood would be even more benficial in the lower under-hood temps. I do like the 4th gen TA/WS6 hoods though.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

I dont like it. Too much of a "wedge" look. I prefer cowl hoods that raise up quick and remain almost a constant height from near the front to the back, following the factory hood lines. But thats just me and Im not sure if Ive seen one for the thirdgen though. Of course I havent looked.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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I dont like it. Too much of a "wedge" look. I prefer cowl hoods that raise up quick and remain almost a constant height from near the front to the back, following the factory hood lines. But thats just me and Im not sure if Ive seen one for the thirdgen though. Of course I havent looked.
My thinking too although this hood does look good from the right angle. It's behind it that I don't car much for because the rise is too much.
This Glasstek hood is what I was hoping for when I ordered the AMD. The catalog cut from the previous year had a different picture than the one I ordered.


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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Now that I like. Yours still looks good, I just like the constant height best.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

That was my intended targeted but I missed it.
I haven't put any paint on the AMD hood as I may sell it and go for the Glasstek.
In the meantime, I'm building a functioning cold air induction setup using the hole in the hood, a 14" open element and a 16" pan with a hood seal. Whoever buys my hood, should I sell it, is going to get a nice package.
I also like the weight savings of the glass hood. As it is, I'm over 3600 lbs race weight.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

their is no such thing as ram air, just focus on getting the coolest air you can get into the engine.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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... just focus on getting the coolest air you can get into the engine.
I couldn't have said it better myself.

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their is no such thing as ram air,
Dont' say that to the Pro Stock guys!
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

There are differences in the way some cowls work/air is supplied. Some cowl openings are just that. An opening that is constant with the hood allowing maximum air input/cowl induction swirling around in the bay and one like mine that has the hole for the filter to fit into that draws cold air from the cowl opening. One inch of the bottom 3 in filter plus the filter top fit into the hole of mine. This is perfect for me because all I’m looking for is a nice steady supply of cold air from the top half of the filter assembly. Since I have the cowl hood I may at least try to use it. Either of these can be sealed off from the warm / hot air in the bay the way cowl was designed to be.

The prices are outrages and allot don't seem to like the Spectre brandbut I found this on line. It’s just to show some of the options available forthose with the cowl opening if you want to seal it off =

http://www.spectreperformance.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=cowl+gasket




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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

I've always hated that second style cowl on ANY car it's on. The first hood I like, and I also have one from KeyParts that is the exact same design.

You generally like one, or the other. Not both.
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I like the hood. I used to have a harwood on my car and hated it. Just poor visiblity for my liking. Went back to the stocker and now am making a box to keep the hot air away form the intake. HP tuners is awsome to see what the under hood temp is for the air coming in
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

Originally Posted by UnderCover89TBI
their is no such thing as ram air, just focus on getting the coolest air you can get into the engine.
Yeah, there's no such thing as forced induction either.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:18 PM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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There are differences in the way some cowls work/air is supplied. Some cowl openings are just that. An opening that is constant with the hood allowing maximum air input/cowl induction swirling around in the bay and one like mine that has the hole for the filter to fit into that draws cold air from the cowl opening. One inch of the bottom 3 in filter plus the filter top fit into the hole of mine. This is perfect for me because all I’m looking for is a nice steady supply of cold air from the top half of the filter assembly. Since I have the cowl hood I may at least try to use it. Either of these can be sealed off from the warm / hot air in the bay the way cowl was designed to be.

The prices are outrages and allot don't seem to like the Spectre brandbut I found this on line. It’s just to show some of the options available forthose with the cowl opening if you want to seal it off =

http://www.spectreperformance.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=cowl+gasket



With the AMD/Goodmark hood (they appear to be identical stampings) I have, I'm building the unit in the pictures that follows. JHRainer and I were working through this and he build a beautiful example (that's his in the bottom photo). It looks remarkably like the Spectre part in RON U.S.M.C.'s post. Whereas that piece is over $390 bucks, I have a total of $150 invested in mine. With a K&N filter and filter lid to boot. Mind you, there are hours of labour involved not the least of which is taken up building the appropriate offset base to compensate for our engine being offset 1 1/2" to the passenger side. (I'm not 100% sure but I don't think the HEI offset base will work due to carg interference).

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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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I've always hated that second style cowl on ANY car it's on. The first hood I like, and I also have one from KeyParts that is the exact same design.

You generally like one, or the other. Not both.
Is that a yes to the hood in post #1 and #3? That's the AMD/Goodmark model.
The one that's not installed in post #13 is the Glasstek hood.
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Originally Posted by Dakota W.
Yeah, there's no such thing as forced induction either.
No their is forced induction but that isn't ram air, it is different. If you do research and see the amount of air pressure that actually has to be made to be considered ram air, it isn't happening. So yourself
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Is that a yes to the hood in post #1 and #3? That's the AMD/Goodmark model.
The one that's not installed in post #13 is the Glasstek hood.
I like the hood that's currently on your car. It actually looks really good with that style front bumper. That's my opinion, anyways.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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I like the hood that's currently on your car. It actually looks really good with that style front bumper. That's my opinion, anyways.
I have to admit, from certain angles, I think it looks great. I like the look in the 3/4 view picture I posted. But looking at it through the windshield is another story. It looks like a 4"!
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I have to admit, from certain angles, I think it looks great. I like the look in the 3/4 view picture I posted. But looking at it through the windshield is another story. It looks like a 4"!
Imagine if you really did have a 4" cowl hood
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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Imagine if you really did have a 4" cowl hood
Yikes! I'd need a periscope!
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

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The Goodmark 2in. cowl measures 3in. at the vent.

Honestly once I got a degree of expertise driving the car the cowl does not bother me at all.
The first photo is a straight on shot and is not what you see from the drivers seat.








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No their is forced induction but that isn't ram air, it is different. If you do research and see the amount of air pressure that actually has to be made to be considered ram air, it isn't happening. So yourself
If an electric leafblower adds 10hp, I'm pretty sure it doesn't take much.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

Originally Posted by Ron U.S.M.C.
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The Goodmark 2in. cowl measures 3in. at the vent.

Honestly once I got a degree of expertise driving the car the cowl does not bother me at all.
I have to say that the general driving about town isn't an issue for me either. Pulling into a parking space at the local supermarket and trying to reference my passenger side front fender is a little difficult but then again, why am I trying to squeeze my beautiful 3rd gen between two Kias in the first place!
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I've noticed these cars are easier to back in, rather than pull in, due to the fact that they have a smaller turning radius.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

You know what's funny? I've been driving these cars for 15 years (I've had several) and I always overshoot the curb at the end of the parking stall when driving in and always leave the car short of the curb when backing in. It's that long hood and short deck that have been throwing me off for years.
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Re: Your opinion: AMD 2" Cowl Hood

The rear hatchglass distorts the view. Something about the angle of it or something, idk. But I know exactly what you mean. I use my sidemirrors to back up mostly.
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How does that AMD hood fit? As much as I don't want to, I'm thinking about getting one because I can't find a stock Iroc hood within reasonable driving distance.
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