since i can't delete my own threads or posts, i'll just delete my parts..........this has gone to something the thread wasn't meant to be. it was mainly for those of us who had certain appearance mods that fit into a so called "rice" category, we could then list what we had for fun. more or less it has become a place to argue what the term "rice" means, personally i prefer to eat it rather than put it towards an automotive meaning.......if someone wants to put a useless spoiler or some rediculous sticker on their car more power to them. i personally don't consider any of these so called "mods" anything more than an odd taste of what looks nice. to each his own.

have fun debating guys...

 

I like it man, wait till I'm done with mine, I'll be there!

 

This is probably a little hypocritical, as I've thrown the term around too, but here goes... (I know you hear me on this on, Kandied...)

First of all, after some quick examination, it should be pretty apparent to anyone that the term "rice" or "*****" is, if not RACIST, then at least a very rude stereotype - referring, I can only imagine, to people of asian descent. I have a couple asian friends, and after asking them what they thought, I don't think I'd like to fuel such a fire of ignorance.

Secondly, and this is just a question, but since when was it assumed all asian people tweak out their cars with neon lights, crazy kits, and all of that...? If I remember correctly, many laws over there regarding automobiles, driving and safety are quite strict, moreso then over here.

Mods, if you feel you should close this, fine, but I think it's a valid topic that should be discussed in relation to not only thirdgens, but to our culture. The fact that people come on here, want something but are afraid to come off as "rice" (defined only by those who stereotype them, no less...) shows what kind of a problem this is. I, personally, resolved not to use the term again, and hope others can find a different slang for their narrow-minded put-downs.

 

Hmmm.. I was always under the impression that '*****' didn't so much refer to any particular racial descent.. I think the term comes from the fact that for a long time, most of the heavily customized cars one would see were Japanese imports... much the same way that one refers to performance motorcycles as 'rice rockets'. If one could infer a racial slur from calling an asian made bike or auto 'rice', then that I could see... possibly. In any case, I truly believe that the term has nothing to do with the particular heritage of whoever drives the car...

 

I, too, must express my feeling of intolerable misunderstanding. "*****" "Rice" and "Rice Burner" are degrogitory terms for cars/mods deplored by those who seek to glorify american muscle. It has NOTHING to do with ethnicity of drivers... Yes, I am done now :lala:

 

The Terms Rice, *****, etc...
Have evolved over time.

It is used to descirbe a car that has be Made to look fast, but has no bawls whatsoever.

It is a term used to describe any vehical, weather it be a Civic or Sunfire. It dosn't matter.

It has absolutly nothing to do with any race. And is not a racially charged issue.

It is not one thing that has a singular description, but a culmination of many things. There is not just One muscle car that defines all muscle cars. It's about aggresive lines, good looks, and lotsa power.

 

Thats some funny KJ Rockz

 

What I have always found interesting...

The "*****" term is somewhat new. To my knowlege it has only been around for a few years. In the beginning, it was for those who put pipes on their cars that are way oversized for the appplication, or misbadge it, have more vinyl than paint, or have these wings that are taller than the car. Now its all blurry.

Honestly, I'm not sure how it started, but it seems some people have now taken it to describe anything appearance wise that is different. If it is not something that was stock on some bird or camaro somewhere in time, its rice.

Strangely "some" of the things "ricers" do are not a far cry from the mods of the street/custom roders back in the day. Street roders did things to decrease weight and improve aero dynamics. Customizers copied the look because they liked it. Some were ex-street rodders who got tired of breaking parts. Heck the Customs weren't all fast either. Even if they were would you race something you put that much money or time into? They didn't call them "Lead Sleds" for nothing! If neons, strobes, & body kits had been around back in the day, I'm sure customizers would have made use of them.

Simply put, any mod is a way of customizing a car.

Presently, customizing has changed because of the way our commerce has changed. Now customizing is fueled by trends and the monsterous availiblity of appearance parts. Now a days, there are fewer customizing shops that crop tops, shave handles, and french lights (affordably or well). Heck try getting one to do a decent paint job. All because we are more technically advanced and we can market and sell these parts. Customizing has turned into throwing trendy little gadgets and such at cars. Some useful some not. Some go too far,yes. But it is still roughly the same idea.

For imports, customizing is easy; intakes, body kits, lights, carbon fiber hoods, carbon fiber dash panels, gauges, & spoilers...
You think of it someone has made it for an import. And not just one style either. All they need is some cash. For third gens, its not that easy. Everything has to be hand made. You can't even get good quality stock replacement parts. What custom parts we do have are limited and not many choices w/in those parts exist.

Sometimes I sit back and wonder why some on this site are so quick to flame and cry "rice". I hate to think it could be because they see how hard it is to customize our cars and be unique, so instead decided they would rather sit back & cry "rice" to look cool, so they don't have the pressure to mod it.

Girls flock to imports because they are flashy. The 3rd gen has been around for 20 years, people have moved on to a more modern look. My *** look at clothes. Dare you wear what was popular in the 80s, I hope not. Same with cars, you want it to be noticed you have to change with the times.

Some would say mine is the worst "rice" on the board. TOO BAD. I have gotten over caring. Its my car.

I tried to stay true to the styling of the 3rd gen, but with a twist. I didn't want the same tired ground effects, lights, hood, spoiler, or tint. The car is "heavily customized" not "riced out". Most steet people don't notice the mods. Heck if my car was solid black would never be noticed. At least I get people coming up to me everytime the car is out. People check it out at traffic lights and gas stations. If they did not like it they would ignore it. Girls absolutely love the car.

Go check it out at my site www.cardomain.com/id/redraif cause I know I'm "*****" enough for you guys. Page 2 lists all my mods.

 

It's QUITE derrogitory - why do you think the word "rice" is used...? Asian culture, stereotyped as rice and sushi eaters. (Fine, it is a main dietary substitute, but anyways...) It has transformed to a term accepted in auto circles, but it's still derrogitory - if two black males use the word n***er with one another, it's accepted as a good thing between them, a social brotherhood - or at least not derrogitory as it was in it's origins. Rice and ***** have evolved in much the same way, and regardless of what the word is used to describe (false/odd/dumb customization of vehicles), it's still rooted in a racist term. Oh well, just my .02.

No, I never thought it referred to the owners race, just to be clear.

 

what have i started.........

 

redraif, while I cannot say I like enverything you have done to your car - I will say it looks different - bad *** in fact... Nice work man! But that inverted wing/fin thingie is tripping me out!!

 

I know. I've always been the *** KLOWN

I mean, class clown

 

That's cause the cars are popular.
Sh*t I can get a friggen stock looking spoiler for the new Mustangs for under $50 bucks (This couldn't be cause a billion friggen mustangs out there) Same thing with imports.

I can tell you right now, if 3rd gen F-body were as popular as imports, we would have a huge array of parts. And they would be a lot less expensive.

So that statement up there, that is cause the market depeneds on the people.

There is a lot of crap for 4th gens. So how it is easier to mod a fourth gen compared to a 3rd gen? huh? Let me see you squeeze in that engine bay, and try to get somting done.

I hate it when people say our cars are hard to mod. that is
And I chalenge anyone to prove me wrong...

 

wow, i read this and just HAD to reply....

Azure, i totally feel you on this one. It can be an offensive term, but its become commercial to the point where i saw a "rice rocket" shirt with imports on it. I think it has been more and more accepted as a term to describe a car that is made to look faster then it actually is. Also, by the way, the term n****er isnt whats used between black mexican or heck even some white or asian people. It is actually ***** and if the other word was used be sure to see some fists flying afterwards.

Kandied, your car defines all that is bad ***, its is very clean, the paint is gorgeous (no orange peel like mine) and the neons are done very tastefully. For your car to be considered rice it would have to have a three foot tall aluminum triple decked spoiler. Half of the car would be primered and would have plain jane 14'' wheels with the hub caps taken off to reveal the black crap wheels which do resemble spare tires by the way.

Redraif, I thought you said earlier you were a girl, if in fact that is true, what do you mean by "the girls all like the car"? Im totally lost on this one. By the way, your car is looking nice but the red tint, if it always looks mirrored like that, is a little out there but to each there own.

 

It sure is sad that someone can get offended so easily

pretty soon we wont be able to say anything in fear of offending someone

this world is slowly going to he11

 

jeez you people will bitch about the dumbest things

 

Hmm... by that theory from what I've seen people say about certain motor options.. wouldn't that include stock (or even modded) v6 camaros, firebirds & mustangs....

Oh yea, don't forget about the Iron Duker f-bodys & 4 cyl stangs..

American iron 'rice' right off the production line,,, who'd have thought.....

 

damn straight









whoops!
sorry if i offended anybody

 

This is a very touchy topic and I'm not going to get into detail as to why I do or do not feel the way I do about the topic "Rice". But I will say that I agree with Azure.

 

Yes it would.
It all depends on the modifications.
Like I said, you could turn ANY car into a *****.

I'm not too concerned with it thoe. I'm gonna do, what I'm gonna do. IF someone calls it rice, ow well.
I'm not gonna bitch and whine like most people.

 

Werd...

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the term "rice" came from "rice burner" which is what a lot of imports with performance exhausts sounded like (personally, I think its more like a muffled chainsaw...) and they were very loud and not that fast... Then I think the term got shortened to *****, then to just rice. I never thought it had anything to do with ethnicity.

 

Well I didnt really want to post in this thread cuz everyone knows how I feel about the word 'RICE' (i've already bitched about it to the extreme), I agree 100% with redraif, and I would just like to remind everyone that the 'import style' you see on the road did not originate in Japan (Rice??) .. its all modeled after European Rally Racing .... turbo engines, dropped cars on big wheels with bodykits, touring wings .... its just sad how lots of people ruin the whole thing with stupid mods ... but anyway ...

I had to make a comment about the 4cyl Mustangs. I just bought another project car yesterday ... (ok I know Im gonna get flammed on this one lol) .. a side project car to my Camaro ... its a 1985 Mustang SVO with the 2.3ltr turbocharged engine (t3 garrett turbo @ 10psi). I got it for $1500 and the thing hauls ***** for a 4 cyl. I raced my current daily driver Camaro (with friend driving) and even tho the Mustang got owned off the line I passed the Camaro @ around 65 and all he saw was taillights (maxxed it at 135 and this is stock now) .... not saying the Stang is the fastest car or anything (hell my Camaro is only mildly modified and the weakest of the v8's) but still the fact that the Stang killed it like that was pretty insane .... after 80mph the stang just pulled ahead about 5-7 car lengths .. not very slow if you ask me. The killer part is I found a recipie to get the Stang to 360 rwhp for under 3 grand ....

Driving it just gives me the ******* when I think about what its gonna be like driving a turbocharged L98 Camaro ...

 

Hey Raif i'm not calling your car ice but..... red tint!!?? wtf. Anyhow I have used the term ***** quite frequently around my town at stupid punks in flashy cars revving on me and saying my car is **** when im at least 3 seconds quicker through the 1/4

 

rice rice RICE!!!!!!!!!! [HOWS THAT FOR U POLITICALY CORRECT CROWD!

 

speaking of rice ... read these two threads and hopefully you will learn something ...

99 C5 Vette vs 01 Civic Si

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=266208 read this first
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=266653 then this

 

In this day and age people all over Canada and the States are getting just to damn Politically Correct, you can't call or say anything to anyone because it might hurt their feelings, I have black friends, Asian friends.
They all call me Dumb White Trash, Honkey, Stupid ******* and things that I won't put down, I call them about the same lines and after we're finished putting each other race down, we'll all go to the bar and get wasted.
If people areoffended by "WORDS"
then they should be offended by the A holes that take "WORDS" to the next level.
The term Rice or *****, I think refers to the Asian built cars not the people.

Vance








:p :p :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :p

 

The C5 that lost, is just like one of those rich guys who dosent know his car well AT ALL!:nono:

I can understand mabye not knowin how to fix stuff in his car, but commmon! U dont lose to a civic like that, even I beat a civic and a freakin Integra with my V8 305!
thats so lame, jeez soo lame!
sad sad

I bet we put a Camaro vs that car and we would own, I dont understand how he would lose!

 

oh yeah sorry .. i want trying to say anything about the cars themselves (c5 or the civic) .. just the attitudes of each driver ... the c5 guy called him rice and so they raced and the civic won .... I dont think anyone cared if the civic guy was asian or not, they were just bagging on his car.

but you're right that c5 guy must be a horrible driver hahahah

 

all too funny...............

:lala:

 

kandied i love your car and i can dig all the neons that you are putting on and in it,but i have to disagree with the hottwirez.i cant stand seeing that in a car.i think that it looks like the person is trying waay to hard to get attention,and its just cheesy.if there was one thing that i DEFINETELY wouldnt do,it would be those.anyways im not flaming you,as i said before your car is mint. i only wish mine was even close to being that sweet.and when you getting that paint job done?do you know what color youre doing it yet?

 

guys, i wasn't posting this thread out of anger or anything else that was said towards myself or my car. it doesn't bother me if someone doesn't like neon or any other thing i've done. i just thought it might be fun to post appearance mods that some of us have done that so often then not is referred to as "rice", but somehow it became a debate on whats right or wrong and what the word "really" means......not very fun.

91rsrider, i'm definately gracious of your compliments as well as your comments, i don't mind if you don't like something; i'd rather know what someone doesn't like, then to have someone not say anything at all! as far as the hotwirez, i too was completely against them as well as neons for sometime.....simply put i added neons looking for something to bring a little attention to the old 3rdgen at night, i thought the hotwirez were a bit myself at first, but if used properly they look like nothing more than accent lighting through the car where you can't get with conventional lights. with most things of this such you have to see it in person before you can be completely against it.

all these posts and i was the only one that has anything that "could" fit in this category, hmm.........o'well. :lala:

 

Hey guys, I don't post here much but I thought i'd add some input to the 'rice' descrepancy. I work with a 65 year-old guy who, back in his glory days, was a die-hard hotrodder.
I asked him if he was familar with the now loosely-thrown term "rice". He tells me that back in those days, the sportbike trend was in its infancy, and that was the slang term used for the early sportbikers who usually had a bike made by Honda, or a similar company. He says the bikers would put rice, actual rice, in the combustion chamber because it supposedly would clean the carbon & crap out of the engine when fired. See where this is going?
I dunno, it makes sense to me, although I would be quite hesitant to toss rice into my 305. I'll stick with the water mist and a drop or two of auto tranny fluid.

 

See guys, I told you the term came from "Rice Burner." It's just been shortened since then! They physically used to put rice in the engine!!!

 

well, not to beat a dead horse, but it doesnt really matter what a term originally meant, as time these slang words take on different meaning. back in the day it might have been used to talk about motorcycles that put rice in the cylinders to clean it up. im sure the people who just get their licenses or the younger kids who see these "rice rockets" in action will say that rice comes from asian cars with fart cans and huge spoilers. thats pretty much what the term goes for nowadays anyways.

 

iam so sick of hearing the words rice, *****, ricebunner. i used to get on this site everyday when i frist started working on my car cuz the guys on here sounded like they knew what they were talking about (which most did). but iam so sick of hearing those words i get on this site once a week now. if i wanted to hear thoses words i would sign on a honda board i always thought this board was for good ole chevy power it seems like you hear thoses words more then you hear camaro, firebird, or thirdgen any more in my eyes its simple if you dont like what people did to their cars then say somthing like "i dont care for it but nice job" or " i think it would look nicer like this..." or somthing dont just say "rice" now lets try and get this site a "rice" free site. so just stop saying it.

and as for the C5 owner i thought it was funny as hell :sillylol: serves him right you shouldn't talk about somthing if you dont know and iam glad the honda won :rockon:

 

I never saw Rice as being a racial slure. I always thought the word rice came from the word "race". And because these some cars are so slow they called them "ricers" instead of racers.

But the "riceburner" is a common term anyway so I guess that is probably where it started from.

 

it is not impossible to make these rice
cars run 13's, ,However.....
Let's see a ***** go up against a
nova or chevelle SS runnin 8 seconds
in the 1/4 at 147 mph!!!!!1

 

man the c5 owner, holy crap. he is like freakin rich!!! . he owns like 2 vettes and is looking for a GOOD viper!!!!!!!!

 

the hondas and all the other imports can run very quick i have a video of a RX-7 doing the 1/4 in 9.52 and yes they can beat alot of chevys fords etc. BUT the thing is that they will never run as quick as the usa cars on all motor. i know that the RX-7 had TT and lets see you put a TT on a 9 sec nova and it will be like a 6 sec. nova thats the big thing the imports usally have to have NOS, turbo or turbos to run as fast as the chevys and fords. and most of them dont care if they blow the motor becuase they can buy a complete motor for cheaper then we can buy new heads or pistons for our cars. i have always said no import will ever be as fast as a V-8 i have yet to see a import run the 1/4 in 4 sec. i think the fastes i have heard is like 8 somthing