I am looking for a very good quality 12" subs. I have a Rockford P3001 Mono Amp rated at 300 Watts. I've read about Rockford Punch 2 series subs and Boston Acoustic Generator models, but I would like to know if anyone has had any experience with these ones or other similar subs. I'm looking to pay approximately $100-$150 per sub. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

 

I'll suggest the JL 12w0's or the new w1's.

 

alpine type r's are very nice it is what i run in my camaro and ive never had any problems what so ever with them. alpine is a proven comapny too. (make sure they are 2 ohm and dual voice coil)

 

In your price range I think I'd give the Adire Shivas a try, or maybe cough a couple extra bucks for a pair of Ascendant Audio Atlas 12" subs. I haven't had the chance to hear them yet, but word is spreading like wildfire about them, and it all seems to be good.

 

I have 2 Pioneer Premier DVC 12's for around $130.00. They sound pretty good, i have a 1200w spl amp. they knock pretty good.

 

for 100-150 per sub your not going to get a very good sub. but, fi your looking, the alpine subs are ok. also the JL audio w0 (with the proper amp) can hit pretty hard.

by the way, as ive said before, the new W1's are just a replacement to the W0's. they have less depth or some ****. NOTHING SPECIAL!!! but as an entry level sub they would be ok.

 

do they have to be 12's, i have 2 10w6v.1's i'm selling for $100 a piece and they work well.



i replaced them with 2 04s12L7 kickers though and i can't see straight when they are playing... personally i like the punch of a 10 in the right air space but if your looking to go deaf then the right 12 will do it. rockford use to make great competition series equipment back in the day, after they went mainstream and hit all the retail stores their product seemed to fall out of line but everyone who has them claims to like them. good luck.

 

That depends on what you're trying to accomplish. You can get very good sound quality at that price range, and you can get some decent SPL. It's just not as likely that you'll get both.

 

the alpine type-r is a great sub and shows that you can have a good performing sub for 100-150$$. I have yet to complain about the performance of my two type-rs and they arent even backed up by a real amp (2 sony 760watters).

 

I would go with a W1 from JL audio.

 

kicker comp vr aint terrible either
spend the 300 get one nice 12 and decent box

 

i would have to agree with Dusty on this one. either go with a JL Audio W1. or one other sub that doesnt sound to bad is the MTX thunder 5500.

my friend put a single 12 in his little golf gti and it sounded pretty nice. (it could have been the acoustics of his car though )

 

The best thing to do is go out to a zillion car audio shops, listen to the subs, and then make a decision. You can get suggestions here, but lets face it, what sounds good to me, might not sound that great to you.

 

hogwash! just get the w1's... everyone likes them, so should you. CONFORM DAMNIT!

 

Infinity subs hit pretty good.

 

yes adire audio is bad as hell. i've never seen any speaker with the kind of excursion or output for the price the brahmas offer, you can get a 15 for about 350 on ebay, i know that sounds like a lot, and yeah you need a 400 dollar amp to run that 15, but i guarantee you that 1 15 hits harder than the 2 jl 10w3s and 12w3s i had in a custom sealed box in my old camaro, with 2 500 dollar amps, and that system hit HARD. those were 2001 model year w3s, dvc. if you think im full of go to http://www.adireaudio.com/, click on mobile, any one of the brahmas, and watch some of the videos of those things. theres one with a van that hits 170 decibals and BREAKS THE STEEL SUPPORT ON HIS DOOR. another with one 15 and 1500 watts in an explorer, he bumps it for a second and you can see the roof jump up and jump at least 2 inches. its insane. i had the chance to hear a brahma 15 with an orion 2500d on it in a crx, and it was the loudest system i've EVER heard in person. im talking stop your heart, set off car alarms 5 houses down, knock things off your walls, crush your soul loud. i didnt even want to sit in the car more than a couple seconds. so for 800 bucks, plus a custom box for 1 15, you get a system that will walk on any 10's or 12's and any single 15, and probably most 18's. thats if you like deep, deep bass anyway, these probably wouldnt be the best speakers for someone who mostly just listens to rock music, although im sure the 10s and 12s are just as bad. adire also sells affordable car speakers im sure hit hard, component systems, and if you have like 10k to drop on a speaker, they'll custom build you a speaker they claim will outslam eighteen 18" woofers. think im bsing, look at the parthanon on that website, below the brahmas. alright im done ranting, just wanted to let you guys who like low bass a cheap way to hit so hard you dont WANT to turn it up.

 

if I were to buy two Brahma 15" woofers... would there be a chance I'd damage my car?

if so, would there be a better solution? I have a dual 15" box... could I just put a passive 15" radiator in the second opening, and just pump all the juice into the first sub? I am thinking of getting a Hifonics 1605D... and with the strange voicecoil resitance of these subs... I think it may REQUIRE two subs..

each coil is 1.4ohms or 0.9ohms...

so if you had DVC... and one sub... you'd be looking at a 0.7ohm/2.8ohm load, or a 0.45ohm/1.8ohm load...

with two DVC subs... you'd be looking at 0.35ohm/5.6ohm load, or a 0.22ohm/2.6ohm load...

you would want to wire both subs the same way, for a monoblock amp, right?

maybe someone can clarify how I would wire this up? I'd love to get my hands on two brahma 15's... and depending on how it works... I'd get the 1605d, 1800, or the 2005D from hifonics, or Memphis....

Preferably, I'd want an overall load of 1ohm... or higher

 

my 2 12" rockford he2s and the custom box to fit in the hatch of your car! they really do bump! i just got my amp stolen and i dont wanna buy another, if ur interested dude talk to me, email will b most effective! lilc1511@yahoo.com

 

i've never heard them in an f-body, but if your car is anything like my gta or my old camaro were, 2 of those 15's, if you had enough power, probably have to spend at least 800 on amp/s to run them, but it would blow your car apart if you bumped it a lot. just the 10s and 12s messed my camaro up bad, everything rattled, the rear view mirror would always fall off, my side mirrors sagged, it was crappy. i've heard the koda subs are really nice, 2 of those might be a better idea, and require less power.
as for plugging one side, i've never tried it or seen it done, conceivably it would work, but i guarantee you you'll see much better results from a custom box for 1, designed for that speakers airspace requirements and what type of bass your looking for. as for the wiring and ohm's, i dont know much about that, but if you haven't bought the amp yet, you could find a nice one that would run just one. check out http://www.edesignaudio.com/category...e=amps&cur=USD
those amps put out super clean power, and are cheap. one of the nine.1's will run a brahma 15 about as hard as it will go.
seriously though, 2 of them? did you see the video of just 1 in that explorer? i wouldnt unless you're planning on competing with it, and dynomating EVERYTHING.

 

eh, I've always been a fan of sets of things... I'd get two of whatevers.... I've read that you can achieve the maximum output of a brahma with much less than their RMS power... They'd prolly be fine with 800-900RMS a piece...

what is better... two 15's with 900watts a piece, or one 15" with 1800 watts going to it? assuming it could take it?

I'd think that if you had two subs, they could do less work...

 

I currently run a set of 12" Kove audio KLD series II subs. They are compared to the armagedon series mmats. They slam pretty loud. Im not sure of SPL levels yet though.. I need to wait for the competitions to come back. I currently run a jl 500/1 to power them. I really recommend these subs highly.

 

no doubt 2 of them would hit harder, but you'd probably want to go with 12's. i've seen 2 15s in the well of a 3rd gen, but i dont think you'd have enough airspace to use the brahmas to their full potential. i think they need about 2.5-3cu. ft each, the 2 12s in a nice box would probably be as loud or louder, just not quite as deep as 2 15s in a box that wasnt big enough. anyone know how much airspace there is in the well?

 

what if I just got one 15" brahma, and put it in a tuned box? used the entire well for the box?

I'd probably make it so the box could also be sealed if I wanted...

 

thats what im planning on doing, with a sealed box, keeping an eye out for an orion 2500d amp to run it with, i saw on on ebay go for about 500 a few months back. those amps are nice, but they've been out of production a while.

 

How about a max caliber. Many people have not heard about them but had one of there 10" in my Iroc and it hit real hard. Just my 2 cents.

 

I think it's better to have two separate subs...

for much less, you could get two subs that when put together, have more surface area/excursion than the single Brahma... plus pairs of woofers always look better...

 

agreed

 

have you ever heard a brahma in person? its vicious my friend. you check out those videos on their website? like i said before, i had 2 jl 10w3's and 2 12w3's with 2 big amps in sealed boxes in my camaro. granted, the 12s were in the well and the 10s were behind the seat facing backward, so they were probably cancelling each other out a bit, but it still beat down. and that system might have been loud, but it was nowhere near as clear or deep as the single brahma 15, and thats what im looking for, low, clean bass. sure you could buy some cheaper 12's, and that would probably be a better option if you listen to a lot of rock. i listen to plenty of classic rock, and newer stuff like tool and the deftones, but i dont feel the need for huge bass with rock music, and a 15 will certainly give you some. but when it comes to to playing low bass drops, triple six mafia, the click, too short, that type of stuff, i guarantee you that 1 brahma 15 will put a pair of cheaper 12's to shame. and it isnt really all that much more expensive, i dont know what the w1's run, but at 350 for a brahma, thats not much more than you're looking at for 2 12s, another 400 for an amp to run it, which isnt much more than you'd need for 2 12's. comes down to personal preference really, how you like your bass and what type of music you mostly listen to. whatever you do, do yourself a huge favor and get a box made for the airspace specs of whatever speakers you get, and go with a high quality amp, even if you cant afford the top of the line badboy, believe me 500 watts of clean power from something like an elemental designs or a jl amp is much better than a 1000 watt kenwood or sony amp.

 

I plan to go with 2 JL Audio 12W6V2's with dedicated amps for each sub.

 

I'm staying with 15" woofers...

I was thinking of the adire tempest with 16mm, or the Hifonics Brutus BX15D2 15-Inch 2-Ohm DVC Driver... 15mm.

I'll read up on the whitepapers, and compare... but logically thinking, if you had two woofers that could move 15mm, then you'd have an overall of 30mm... and to get a single woofer that can do that, would cost a fortune, ($350)...

don't companies make 15" woofers that move 15mm that still maintain high SQ levels at that excursion? The brahma's do that, I just figure other companies do as well..

the big thing is, how far can the cone move on a non-brahma, and still maintain good SQ? if its about 15mm or so, then two of them would probably be cheaper, and louder than a brahma...

guess there's just something in my mind that really wants two subwoofers... I don't know why. -- I'd also think, that if one woofer was having to move 30mm, it would wear out quicker, rather than two separate woofers only moving 15mm...

any thoughts?

 

anybody know what kind of airspace you can get out of a well box? i saw a guy with 4 12s in a camaro on here somewhere, he said they each had 1.5 ft but this was a fiberglass box, and it was behind the seat, im assuming you want them in the well.

 

I'm planning on a set of Infinity Kappa Perfect 12.1 subs. I dont want ungodly amounts of power, i just want it to thump good and sound nice. A friend of mine has a singe P5 Sony Xplod Sub and a 760W amp and it pounds pretty hard.. just sounds like ****. I've heard the Infinity's, and they have great sound quality and a good hard punch.
Here are the specs.

Power Handling, Peak: 1400W
Power Handling, RMS: 350W
Sensitivity: 96dB (In car)
Frequency Response (± 1.5dB): 18Hz - 150 Hz
Frequency Response (±3dB): 18Hz - 150Hz
Impedance: 4 Ohms
Mounting Depth: 6-1/2"

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