DIY PROM Do It Yourself PROM chip burning help. No PROM begging. No PROMs for sale. No commercial exchange. Not a referral service.

Increasing BLM update rate?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 15, 2003 | 11:03 AM
  #1  
3.8TransAM's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 7,015
Likes: 2
From: Schererville , IN
Car: 91 GTA, 91 Formula, 89 TTA
Engine: all 225+ RWHP
Transmission: all OD
Axle/Gears: Always the good ones
Increasing BLM update rate?

Any advantages/disadvantages?

Have noticed that it has been toyed/played with on some tuners chips(not hypergarbage either)... Not quite sure of the reasoning

BLM change rate was almost instantaneous.......


Would updating the blm rate cause a larger discrepancy from blm to int?

Just curious looking for all the edges to get this latest series of chip revisions as nice as possible and then scrap it and rebuild another :-)
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2003 | 11:34 AM
  #2  
Grumpy's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 7,554
Likes: 1
From: In reality
Car: An Ol Buick
Engine: Vsick
Transmission: Janis Tranny Yank Converter
Set it fast enough, and it just chases the INT.
Which on a hot street engine might be a good thing, thou.
Then again, on the C3 ecms, it might also be a good thing.

Maybe something to play with and/or just remember it's another strategy available to play with.
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2003 | 11:43 AM
  #3  
RBob's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 18,432
Likes: 233
From: Chasing Electrons
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check
Re: Increasing BLM update rate?

Originally posted by 3.8TransAM
Any advantages/disadvantages?

Have noticed that it has been toyed/played with on some tuners chips(not hypergarbage either)... Not quite sure of the reasoning

BLM change rate was almost instantaneous.......


Would updating the blm rate cause a larger discrepancy from blm to int?

Just curious looking for all the edges to get this latest series of chip revisions as nice as possible and then scrap it and rebuild another :-)
I don't believe that it is a good thing (to increase the rate of change). In the PID loop of things the BLM is really an offset value. It is like an INTegrator but for a longer term. In the grand scheme the BLM is used more for CCP trim then anything else.

In the long term divability issue it can come into play such as when a fuel pump is going south, or another sensor like the MAF/MAP/MAT/IAT/CTS isn't reading correctly (going bad). The O2 sensor still needs to be correct though.

The aftermarket is probably making it update quicker in order to cover their tuning errors. Not a good thing to do. As many folks move the O2 further down the pipe (headers) a faster update rate can cause oscillations in the INTegrator along with the proportional gains.

The way to go for tuning a VE table is to lock things up, attach a WB, drive around and data-log, then run it through something like VEMaster.

RBob.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mark_ZZ3
TPI
15
May 24, 2018 01:02 PM
LT1Formula
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
7
Oct 8, 2015 08:34 PM
gord327
Transmissions and Drivetrain
19
Oct 3, 2015 01:25 PM
hartsmike
Engine Swap
11
Oct 2, 2015 07:11 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 AM.