454 and 700R4 with 1227747
454 and 700R4 with 1227747
I suspect that this has been answered before, but I can't find it anywhere.
I put a 700R4 (updated for the power/torque) into my car behind my 454. I have a 1227747 installed. I have a couple questions:
Did GM ever put 1227747 into a truck with a 7.4L and a 700R4? Or just the T400?
Which is the best bin file to use with my combination?
Thanks for the help.
John.
I put a 700R4 (updated for the power/torque) into my car behind my 454. I have a 1227747 installed. I have a couple questions:
Did GM ever put 1227747 into a truck with a 7.4L and a 700R4? Or just the T400?
Which is the best bin file to use with my combination?
Thanks for the help.
John.
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From: Tuscaloosa, AL
Car: 91Z, 91RS, '84 Jimmy
Engine: L98, 355, L98
Transmission: 700R, T56, 700R4
Since the 350TBI pickups used the '7747 and the automatics were all 700-R4's, it may be easier to take a 350 .bin and modify it for the larger displacement than to try to find a .bin that may or may not exist.
Just MHO.
Just MHO.
A little internet research indicates that the 454SS trucks had a TH400(E) the first year and then the 4L80E after that. I have not been able to find any information yet on what the difference is between a TH400 and a TH400E.
Did the 454SS have the 1227747?
Did the 454SS have the 1227747?
I want the ecm to control the lockup in the 700R4. If all the 1227747 based 454s drove TH400 transmissions, then can I still control the lockup torque converter on a 700R4 with the bin?
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Car: 91Z, 91RS, '84 Jimmy
Engine: L98, 355, L98
Transmission: 700R, T56, 700R4
All 7.4's from '87-'89 had the '7747. Starting in '90 they got the '8747, as well as the '7470 and '7060 from '91-'93.
Seriously though, if you have a chip burner, just use a TBI350 vin K '7747 .bin and import the calibrations (except for the tranny stuff) from your current .bin.
Seriously though, if you have a chip burner, just use a TBI350 vin K '7747 .bin and import the calibrations (except for the tranny stuff) from your current .bin.
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I guess I could, but my current bin is for a standard (4-speed). Isn't the spark table different in the auto?
I guess I could, but my current bin is for a standard (4-speed). Isn't the spark table different in the auto?
I'll search my bin library and see if I can find a 7747 454 manual calibration. But if not, I'll do a quick compare to see the GM did universally.
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Car: An Ol Buick
Engine: Vsick
Transmission: Janis Tranny Yank Converter
The truck calibrations are so miserable, that I'd suggest using a 350 auto .bin, and then look at the BPC, VEI+II tables, and main sprk from a 454, and import them into the 350 .bin. Then tune as necessary.
Be sure to run a search for 454, and 747 here, and catch up on all the patches, and details about that engine/trans..
Be sure to run a search for 454, and 747 here, and catch up on all the patches, and details about that engine/trans..
Thanks for the help. I've been tuning for a couple of years (off and on) with a 454 manual bin. I'll start with a 350 auto bin.
It'll be a few days yet till I get my exhaust back on my car, and then I'm taking a vacation for a week, and then I hope to get to work on tuning again.
John.
It'll be a few days yet till I get my exhaust back on my car, and then I'm taking a vacation for a week, and then I hope to get to work on tuning again.
John.
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Car: 1990 454SS
Engine: 454
Transmission: TH400
All 1990 454SS's had the 8747 with TH400, the 91-93s had the 7060 with 4L80E. My 1990 had a 700R4 that I put in, until I killed it - went back to the TH400, one day will do the 4L80E. My 1990 also has a 7060, but I put that in too.
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