after 10 miles of normal driving
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From: Long Island NY
Car: 1989 Firebird Formula
Engine: 5.7L 355 TPI
Transmission: 700 R4 with TCI rebuild kit and valve body mods
after 10 miles of normal driving

i got over 200 knocks...... wouldnt my car be blown up? lol
i have:
1989 firebird formula 350 TPI 305 heads 10:1 compression, 93 octane, 700R4
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that simply having knock counts doesn't necessarily mean that you are knocking like crazy, but rather that the computer is having to retard timing to avoid knocking.
BTW, your BLM's look a little low at 120. You're running a little rich and the ECM is having to pull fuel out. Except for the mass air stuff (which my MAP brain is not familiar with) everything else looks ok to me.
BTW, your BLM's look a little low at 120. You're running a little rich and the ECM is having to pull fuel out. Except for the mass air stuff (which my MAP brain is not familiar with) everything else looks ok to me.
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yeah, knock counts doesn't necessarily mean that you actually endured knock/detonation or that you're going to find specks of piston on your spark plugs., but that the knock sensor heard the noise of knock starting to develop and yanked timing to prevent it from developing further.
No matter what you do, you are going to generate SOME knock counts. And the longer you drive, the more will accumluate, even if you retard your timing 10* across the board. It's the nature of all the mechanical noise and such that a motor makes.
You need to datalog to find out WHEN the the knock is occuring. If you get 20 counts everytime you go through 4000 at WOT, then you got too much timing in that area. on the other hand if you get random knock counts everywhere, you could have a noisy engine component or accessory giving you false knock.
datalogging will tell you when and where you're getting counts.
With 10:1 compression and the small cam listed in your sig, your dynamic compression ratio might be quite high, which could also contribute to unwanted knock/detonation, especially if your quench height is not optimized.
No matter what you do, you are going to generate SOME knock counts. And the longer you drive, the more will accumluate, even if you retard your timing 10* across the board. It's the nature of all the mechanical noise and such that a motor makes.
You need to datalog to find out WHEN the the knock is occuring. If you get 20 counts everytime you go through 4000 at WOT, then you got too much timing in that area. on the other hand if you get random knock counts everywhere, you could have a noisy engine component or accessory giving you false knock.
datalogging will tell you when and where you're getting counts.
With 10:1 compression and the small cam listed in your sig, your dynamic compression ratio might be quite high, which could also contribute to unwanted knock/detonation, especially if your quench height is not optimized.
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