Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
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Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
Any way to run a wideband to the ECM so it can be datalogged in tunerpro, or is it easier to simply use the emulator and tune as you go, while also watching a separate AFR gauge from the wideband?
what are they doing in this video? I message Klowny (video creator) and he never really got back to me
what are they doing in this video? I message Klowny (video creator) and he never really got back to me
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
If I understand your question....you can use the lc1 wideband with tuner pro to datalog afr. I believe it's only available with the RT version though.
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
Check out the following link. A member has modified a maf bin and datastream definition to allow wideband O2 logging in TunerPro RT. Moates placed a link to the thread on their website.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-prom/533625-apypwb-arapwb-wideband-data.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-prom/533625-apypwb-arapwb-wideband-data.html
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
You can also do it with the Autoprom emulator. It has its own inputs so you can slipstream the WB data right in with everything else. I'm using a PLX wideband on my 86 running 6e.
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
Check out the following link. A member has modified a maf bin and datastream definition to allow wideband O2 logging in TunerPro RT. Moates placed a link to the thread on their website.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-prom/533625-apypwb-arapwb-wideband-data.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-prom/533625-apypwb-arapwb-wideband-data.html
I did see this thread before... back then I didn't know what the hell they were talking about... now I sort of do.
Question though... do I HAVE to use his modified bin? Or can I simply just use his hacked ads file and use the bin I'm currently running?
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Car: 86 Imponte Ruiner 450GT, 91 Formula
Engine: 350 Vortec, FIRST TPI, 325 RWHP
Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Torsen 3.70
Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
I don't believe it has the analog input like the Autoprom. The AP has a 3 channel 0-5v input block that you can use for wideband or any other 0-5v like pressure or temperature transducers, etc.
The AP is really nice because you can emulate, and then burn right to a chip as needed without any hardware or software changes and the analog input means you can use a wideband that's not permanently installed in the vehicle. I use a tail-pipe clamp adapter and just run the cable in through the rear hatch and back seat. Can use the same wideband to tune other vehicles, etc.
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The AP is really nice because you can emulate, and then burn right to a chip as needed without any hardware or software changes and the analog input means you can use a wideband that's not permanently installed in the vehicle. I use a tail-pipe clamp adapter and just run the cable in through the rear hatch and back seat. Can use the same wideband to tune other vehicles, etc.
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From: Portland, OR
Car: 86 Imponte Ruiner 450GT, 91 Formula
Engine: 350 Vortec, FIRST TPI, 325 RWHP
Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Torsen 3.70
Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
He has actually modified the microcode programming itself and recompiled the assembly code to do something the original code could not. So you would have to move your existing mapping over to his new BIN architecture.
Think of it this way - for the 7165 ECM you have $32, $32B, and $6E..... this would be the equivalent of $6E version 1.5..... Not backward compatible with any of the others.
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
GD, that is how I understand it too. You have to use his modified Bin. He included a pdf file in the download that gives instructions on how to copy your settings (table values, etc) to the modified bin.
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
Yes, there is a way. You have to use the D8 pin on the 165 ECM, run it to your WB sensor output. You'll need an XDF file that has been modified to read that pin. It converts 255 steps to 10-18v WB readings and it'll display the data on your laptop dashboard.
Let me know if you're still interested....I can send you the file.
Let me know if you're still interested....I can send you the file.
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
I would be super interested if I was able to get a simple data log. But I can't even do that yet. Very frustrated
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Re: Wideband o2 to 165 ECM?
Send me your email, so I can get you the files. Also, what equipment are you using?






