Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
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Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
Hey guys,
I finally installed my Holley electric fuel pump this weekend but have a question about the relay that I got to go with it. On the relay, I have a yellow wire that's supposed to go to the on/off or ignition switch. Only problem is, I can't figure out which wire in the engine harness is the ignition wire (I'm not looking for always on as I"m pretty sure this wire is supposed to go "hot" when you turn on the ignition). Could i use the terminal on the starter or should I actually find the ignition power line? Does anyone have a picture of it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I finally installed my Holley electric fuel pump this weekend but have a question about the relay that I got to go with it. On the relay, I have a yellow wire that's supposed to go to the on/off or ignition switch. Only problem is, I can't figure out which wire in the engine harness is the ignition wire (I'm not looking for always on as I"m pretty sure this wire is supposed to go "hot" when you turn on the ignition). Could i use the terminal on the starter or should I actually find the ignition power line? Does anyone have a picture of it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
Why can't you use the factory relay and connect your new pump directly to the tan/white wire on it?
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Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
Sorry, it's an 84 T/A and originally had a mechanical pump so I have no relay or anything like that for an electric pump. The new engine I'm putting in isn't drilled for a mechanical pump so I have run all my own wiring for the electric one. I've got it all finished except for this wire which confuses me as to where I should hook it up.
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Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
Well, the starter wire won't work as that is only hot when the key is turned to crank the engine. Most pink/black wires are hot in run and start. Here are some likely candidates where you should find one:
AIR diverter valve
AIR select valve
EGR solenoid
Mixture control solenoid
Throttle kicker solenoid
AIR diverter valve
AIR select valve
EGR solenoid
Mixture control solenoid
Throttle kicker solenoid
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Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
Well, the starter wire won't work as that is only hot when the key is turned to crank the engine. Most pink/black wires are hot in run and start. Here are some likely candidates where you should find one:
AIR diverter valve
AIR select valve
EGR solenoid
Mixture control solenoid
Throttle kicker solenoid
AIR diverter valve
AIR select valve
EGR solenoid
Mixture control solenoid
Throttle kicker solenoid
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Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
No, the temperature sensor provides a ground path for the gauge. Yes, the throttle kicker is on the carb to increase idle.
All of those devices listed should have a pink/black wire on them that is hot in run, bulb test, and start. You don't necessarily have to tap into the wire at the device. I would trace the harness back to a more convenient place and splice in there.
I'm sure there are better places to tap into but I'm going off less than ideal wiring diagrams, sorry.
All of those devices listed should have a pink/black wire on them that is hot in run, bulb test, and start. You don't necessarily have to tap into the wire at the device. I would trace the harness back to a more convenient place and splice in there.
I'm sure there are better places to tap into but I'm going off less than ideal wiring diagrams, sorry.
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Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
No, the temperature sensor provides a ground path for the gauge. Yes, the throttle kicker is on the carb to increase idle.
All of those devices listed should have a pink/black wire on them that is hot in run, bulb test, and start. You don't necessarily have to tap into the wire at the device. I would trace the harness back to a more convenient place and splice in there.
I'm sure there are better places to tap into but I'm going off less than ideal wiring diagrams, sorry.
All of those devices listed should have a pink/black wire on them that is hot in run, bulb test, and start. You don't necessarily have to tap into the wire at the device. I would trace the harness back to a more convenient place and splice in there.
I'm sure there are better places to tap into but I'm going off less than ideal wiring diagrams, sorry.
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Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
I'm just calling it how I read it from a wiring diagram. It just happens that these less than desired diagrams say the exact same thing as an '87 Camaro factory service manual. It also calls the device a throttle kicker and shows the 12v supply for all of them to be pink/black.
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Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
I'm just calling it how I read it from a wiring diagram. It just happens that these less than desired diagrams say the exact same thing as an '87 Camaro factory service manual. It also calls the device a throttle kicker and shows the 12v supply for all of them to be pink/black.
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From: St. Cloud, MN
Car: 1984 Trans Am
Engine: LS1383 in work
Transmission: Magnum F - to be installed
Axle/Gears: Zexel Torsen 3.73, 28-spline mosers
Re: Electric Fuel pump (Holley Red) and relay harness question
Well, the starter wire won't work as that is only hot when the key is turned to crank the engine. Most pink/black wires are hot in run and start. Here are some likely candidates where you should find one:
AIR diverter valve
AIR select valve
EGR solenoid
Mixture control solenoid
Throttle kicker solenoid
AIR diverter valve
AIR select valve
EGR solenoid
Mixture control solenoid
Throttle kicker solenoid
I'll have to check them with a volt meter once we get power hooked back up to find a good one I guess...seems to be the only way I'll know for sure which will work. Thread
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