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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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fuel pump

okay so i bought a 91 bird 3.1l v6 the fuel pumps runs great till u turn on the lights or air conditioner the pump is hot wired their is a grey wire crimped to a wire run into fuse box but i have a grey wire that isnt connected to anything and i also have a red i one believe they are all related any ideas guys?????
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:46 PM
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Re: fuel pump

the grey wire is the power wire that runs from the main bulkhead connector under the carpet all the way back to the fuel pump. my guess is that car has a fuel pump relay issue and the PO hotwired the pump instead of fixing it.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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http://austinthirdgen.org/mkportal/m...ine_wiring.gif
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Re: fuel pump

Originally Posted by travis401
the grey wire is the power wire that runs from the main bulkhead connector under the carpet all the way back to the fuel pump. my guess is that car has a fuel pump relay issue and the PO hotwired the pump instead of fixing it.
ok if i test it what should be the volts/ amp comeing out of it
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Re: fuel pump

the fuel pump relay should have a 12v constant on the orange wire and a 12v on the grey wire when the ecm triggers the relay.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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Re: fuel pump

Originally Posted by travis401
the fuel pump relay should have a 12v constant on the orange wire and a 12v on the grey wire when the ecm triggers the relay.
so to test i should prime the pump???
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Re: fuel pump

the red wire is a test circuit to prime the pump. but if the pumps power wire (gray) isnt connected to the circuit, its not gonna do anything.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Re: fuel pump

Originally Posted by travis401
the red wire is a test circuit to prime the pump. but if the pumps power wire (gray) isnt connected to the circuit, its not gonna do anything.
ok..... the grey wire is putting out about 11 volts should i just reattach it to the other grey wire????
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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give it a shot and see what happens
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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i just dont see why they would do it tho?
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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some people do crazy things to these cars for reasons noone will ever understand. if it works go with it, if it doesnt then we can help you fix whats wrong instead of just rigging it to run.
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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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Re: fuel pump

Originally Posted by travis401
some people do crazy things to these cars for reasons noone will ever understand. if it works go with it, if it doesnt then we can help you fix whats wrong instead of just rigging it to run.
ok i let u know
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