Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
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Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
I am new to this forum but have lurked the DFI forums for months learning from everyones experience. I have recently finished a 6 month build which has left me with a NIB (never opened) as well as an ECU that was new and sent to Accel to be inspected for a possible problem. Come to find out there was nothing wrong with it so they performed a complete program update and diagnostics inspection. It has not been removed from it's box. ECU's go for roughly $950 new and I am asking $700 for the NIB and $650 for the recently inspected one.
I am also selling a completely unloomed, inspected, tested and reloomed Gen6 wiring harness. I was forced to get a new Gen7 harness when my Gen6 ECU was found to be bad. Also included is a complete set of 8 - 30lb Bosch III injectors that were recently rebuilt. I had to upgrade to 42lb green giants as the Bosch's couldn't feed enough fuel for my 600hp, 406 SBC's thirst. I am asking $250 for the harness including injectors.
I will accept partial and straight out trades for dana60 axles w/passdrop front or any other rock buggy parts that will fit my Jeep CJ. Reasonable cash offers will also be considered.
Pls PM me if you are interested. I can send pics to those who reply. Thanks
I am also selling a completely unloomed, inspected, tested and reloomed Gen6 wiring harness. I was forced to get a new Gen7 harness when my Gen6 ECU was found to be bad. Also included is a complete set of 8 - 30lb Bosch III injectors that were recently rebuilt. I had to upgrade to 42lb green giants as the Bosch's couldn't feed enough fuel for my 600hp, 406 SBC's thirst. I am asking $250 for the harness including injectors.
I will accept partial and straight out trades for dana60 axles w/passdrop front or any other rock buggy parts that will fit my Jeep CJ. Reasonable cash offers will also be considered.
Pls PM me if you are interested. I can send pics to those who reply. Thanks
Last edited by Jawsdiver; Mar 24, 2011 at 07:42 AM. Reason: added information
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Re: Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
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Re: Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
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Re: Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
This will be my last bump so if anyone doesn't respond this go I am going to go ahead and place everything on Ebay. So if anyone wants anything please speak up.... thanks.
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Re: Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
I have to apologize but the Bosch 3's have been sold this afternoon. If there is any interest, I do have a set of 8 Bosch 5235211 21.6lb high impedence injectors that are in excellent condition. They are the ones that came in the 86' Vette 350. I have heard them called NOS injectors but am not too sure how correct that is. I do know that these are the ones that everyone looks for as these can supposedly handle rail pressures up to 50lbs easily. Unfortunately, I do not know what the rated fuel flow rate would at that pressure. I was going to use these on a 350 4-bolt I am thinking of building for my wifes Jeep. Again, sorry that I didn't get to update on the sale quick enough but if these interest you let me know. I know these sell for $27 each in rebuilt condition... if you can even find them. I can ship these to Florida and have my buddy who owns an injector reconditioning/tresting facility run though them if I can get a decent price for them. Let me know guys... thanks.
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Re: Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
I wanted to add this PM response as it took me a while to write and for what it's worth will document my first experience in setting this kind of system, so feel free to read my long-winded response to a simple question... heh
Hopefully it will help those looking to undertake this kind of build as well as offer a little insight into the differences of the Gen6 & Gen7 systems. Additionally, the following testimony is geared to the Gen7/Thruster system and not the Gen7 Pro system. The Gen7 Pro ECU/system is geared towards individuals that are focused on racing or vehicles with advanced setups. My comments are geared towards those guys that are looking to setup a simplified yet highly tunable system. If anyone has other info or wishes to add any flames to the fire, feel free. Thx.
The ECU's I am selling both have the latest Calmap and installation video software. Accels current sysem uses, what they dubbed Gen7 harnesses which are completely different than the earlier Gen6 harnesses in several areas. The major differences are how the wiring is setup for the injectors and O2 sensors. On the Gen6 harness the injectors are wired in pairs for batch firing only, as sequential distributors were not available and most distributors only had a single trigger. The harness only allows for the heated and nonheated non-wideband O2 sensors. The other difference is the connectors on the Gen6 are the two plug style, which are compatible with the factory 2-plug ECU's. The harness can be made compatible with the 3-plug factory ECU's via Accel adaptors or buying the appropriate connectors and repinning via wiring diagrams.
The significant differences made to the Gen7 harnesses are the injectors are wired individually rather than in pairs to allow for sequential firing taking advantage of the dual-sync (crank/cam trigger) distributors. The ability to take advantage of sequential firing is better fuel economy and a slightly crisper throttle response. Honestly, I was running batch fire mode with an HEI prior to swapping to the dual-sync. I honestly haven't really found a big noticable difference between the two other than getting about 2 more miles per gallon. The throttle response is almost discernable. On the downside, the dual-sync can be a pain to get setup initally. Accel was smart in making a separate video to help those whom have never setup a dual-sync before. I am an "old-school" carb head and have been bending wrenches for 30 yrs and even I was a little apprehensive when it came to building this system but I found the setup videos (and the vast wealth of knowledge available on this web site) were a huge help in putting this all together. Unless you intend to use your ride primarily at the strip, I would advise that you go the HEI route for ease of setup. I was getting 21mpg with a heavy foot on a 600hp SBC 407 using the HEI setup. Had I known I would only get the small increases I did, I wouldn't have sheeled out the $$ to go dual-sync. Anyway... the ECU connectors are significantly different as well as the pinout. Additionally, this system allows use of wide-band O2 sensors with the addition of a separate wide-band control module. The wide-band O2 adds a level of fuel control that makes calibrating for the novice a LOT easier!! I have never touched or calibrated a system before and was, quite frankly, very concerned that I would smoke my 8grand investment. But after watching the videos and reading the manual and help/setup files in the software, several times, I was able to get it close enough to make the sniff tester ask if I installed cataletic converters. From there it was just small tweeks to the cold start/idle maps to get it smooth as silk.
I guess to answer your question, burning maps to proms (Gen6) is a big pain in the ***!! Being able to tweek your system, literally on the fly and having an infinately adjustable system makes for some interesting map options. I have 3 maps that I use on the fly depending on where I am. I have a rock climbing map, desert racing map and a "road" map that I use to get to and from my favorite offroading locations. A quick 30sec map load and I am off to the races.
Well, in a long-winded way, hopefully I have answered your questions... heh
Let me know. Thanks
Hopefully it will help those looking to undertake this kind of build as well as offer a little insight into the differences of the Gen6 & Gen7 systems. Additionally, the following testimony is geared to the Gen7/Thruster system and not the Gen7 Pro system. The Gen7 Pro ECU/system is geared towards individuals that are focused on racing or vehicles with advanced setups. My comments are geared towards those guys that are looking to setup a simplified yet highly tunable system. If anyone has other info or wishes to add any flames to the fire, feel free. Thx.
The ECU's I am selling both have the latest Calmap and installation video software. Accels current sysem uses, what they dubbed Gen7 harnesses which are completely different than the earlier Gen6 harnesses in several areas. The major differences are how the wiring is setup for the injectors and O2 sensors. On the Gen6 harness the injectors are wired in pairs for batch firing only, as sequential distributors were not available and most distributors only had a single trigger. The harness only allows for the heated and nonheated non-wideband O2 sensors. The other difference is the connectors on the Gen6 are the two plug style, which are compatible with the factory 2-plug ECU's. The harness can be made compatible with the 3-plug factory ECU's via Accel adaptors or buying the appropriate connectors and repinning via wiring diagrams.
The significant differences made to the Gen7 harnesses are the injectors are wired individually rather than in pairs to allow for sequential firing taking advantage of the dual-sync (crank/cam trigger) distributors. The ability to take advantage of sequential firing is better fuel economy and a slightly crisper throttle response. Honestly, I was running batch fire mode with an HEI prior to swapping to the dual-sync. I honestly haven't really found a big noticable difference between the two other than getting about 2 more miles per gallon. The throttle response is almost discernable. On the downside, the dual-sync can be a pain to get setup initally. Accel was smart in making a separate video to help those whom have never setup a dual-sync before. I am an "old-school" carb head and have been bending wrenches for 30 yrs and even I was a little apprehensive when it came to building this system but I found the setup videos (and the vast wealth of knowledge available on this web site) were a huge help in putting this all together. Unless you intend to use your ride primarily at the strip, I would advise that you go the HEI route for ease of setup. I was getting 21mpg with a heavy foot on a 600hp SBC 407 using the HEI setup. Had I known I would only get the small increases I did, I wouldn't have sheeled out the $$ to go dual-sync. Anyway... the ECU connectors are significantly different as well as the pinout. Additionally, this system allows use of wide-band O2 sensors with the addition of a separate wide-band control module. The wide-band O2 adds a level of fuel control that makes calibrating for the novice a LOT easier!! I have never touched or calibrated a system before and was, quite frankly, very concerned that I would smoke my 8grand investment. But after watching the videos and reading the manual and help/setup files in the software, several times, I was able to get it close enough to make the sniff tester ask if I installed cataletic converters. From there it was just small tweeks to the cold start/idle maps to get it smooth as silk.
I guess to answer your question, burning maps to proms (Gen6) is a big pain in the ***!! Being able to tweek your system, literally on the fly and having an infinately adjustable system makes for some interesting map options. I have 3 maps that I use on the fly depending on where I am. I have a rock climbing map, desert racing map and a "road" map that I use to get to and from my favorite offroading locations. A quick 30sec map load and I am off to the races.
Well, in a long-winded way, hopefully I have answered your questions... heh
Let me know. Thanks
Last edited by Jawsdiver; Mar 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM.
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Re: Thruster EMC's and clean Gen6 harness for sale
Ok guys.. am putting these up on Ebay. Please consider this post CLOSED.
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