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Old Dec 5, 2000 | 12:40 PM
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ZR-1

Do you think it is possible to put a ZR-1 in a 3rd gen. camaro? I just was wondering, if it would fit, would it be worth it. I think it would haul major butt.

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Old Dec 5, 2000 | 05:40 PM
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the ZR-1 is the Corvette model...the actual engine is an LT4, and you can swap it, there's people that have swapped in LT1's, but it's not easy.

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Old Dec 5, 2000 | 06:49 PM
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The ZR-1 motor is actually called an Lt-5 not an Lt-4 which was installed in the corvette grand sport. I have seen pictures of the LT-5 installed in a thirdgen. It was done by the chevy race shop.
The motor (if you can find one) is real expensive. In my opinion is not worth the money. For 5 to 10 grand or more I can think of alot of other options. I.e. blown stroker motor.
Just my two cents.
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Old Dec 5, 2000 | 08:55 PM
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ZR1 = LT5
GS = LT4

The LT5 is a DOHC, multi-valve, 16 injector, intake twin runner all aluminum 350 made from 90-95 designed my GM and Lotus. 2 bolt mains from 90-93 and 4 bolt mains for 94-95. Both versions came backed behind the ZF6 6speed.

Now our 3rdgens have an engine bay with more then enough space for one, however since the LT5 is not your typical small block headers and motor mounts might be a problem. If you can find an LT5 w/ ZF6 go for it. Sometime last year there was a whole t-boned ZR1 on ebay that went for 7grand. Perfect for a swap like this. So look around, who knows you might just find another killer deal like that.

The 96 Grand Sport came with an LT4, which was nothing more then a worked over LT1. Then GM made the 97 30th aniv SS and used the left over LT4s.

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Old Dec 6, 2000 | 12:29 PM
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I know all about the ZR-1, i'm not just a camaro lover, i love Vette's too. I just thought i'd ask if it was possible and if it is had it been done. Now that i know it can be done, I wonder if there are any people that have taken pics of this.
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Old Dec 6, 2000 | 10:52 PM
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From what I was told there's pics of one in a thirdgen in a book. I believe it's called Camaro Performance 82-92 and has a blue 91-92 Z28 on the cover. Also Amazon sells the book, I think. Again this is only from what I've been told. I don't have that book, one of these days I'll get myself a copy as it has many, many tricks and tips about thirdgens that you near hear anywhere else.
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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 01:38 PM
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Arizona Speed and Marine can hook you up and give you all the info on an LT5 into F-body.
They sell some I believe around 15-20K.
You can get same horsepower in other ways cheaper, but it would be awesome to have an F-body with an LT5.

GM actually had a 92 Camaro fitted with one and the 6 speed. Did the car show circuit, I think it is still around. I can scrounge up somepicture for you if you want...Car Craft magazine 92 or 93 issues.

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Old Dec 8, 2000 | 02:09 PM
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Sure that would be cool. If you can, post some on this topic.
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Old Dec 10, 2000 | 11:43 PM
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That LT5 is the reason I have my car. My cousin game me a 93 corvette broacher that had the ZR-1, ruby red metallic interios and exterior. The car looked really good in every color. 405hp 350 with lotus designed heads 32 valves it was the direction I wanted chevy to go. Unfortunatly chevy still feels that the v8 needs no really useful technology like overhead cams etc. I agree and disagree, frist I like how things are so compatible, interchangeble parts actually DO. I just wish the 5.7L engines had dual overhead cams and the LS1 intakes. They would be efficient and so powerful yet streetable. Only problem would be the cost. Oh well, hopefully I'll get a good enough job and by that ZR-1 I've always wanted. It's my american dream car.

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Old Dec 11, 2000 | 12:42 AM
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to have one in my Camaro just for the thrill of popping the hood at the next riceboy who goes oh my cars real efficient, it's got DOHC, multi-valve, etc. After popping the hood go "yeah the only thing GM left out was VTEC" watch their mouth drop open in aww and ask them if they'd like to race.
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Old Dec 14, 2000 | 12:30 PM
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ok buddy i'm going to help you out....i found a place that has what you need. they deal in only chevy parts anmd are known to have an LT-5 around. go to http://www.ranchochevy.com

i'm not advertising i'm just helping a fellow member out.
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Old Dec 16, 2000 | 03:18 PM
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I saw a new LT-5/ZF combo for sale for $25,000. Hmmm.

A better idea is to use Dominion 4 valve heads, if that's the point of the swap. They bolt onto any SBC, and cost only around $10,000 for a complete setup. That way you can run any type of engine/trans/induction combo you pleased. But this too, is a complete waste of money, when an N/A or SC'd motor could waste either car.

Ex: ATI did an article about an LT-1 Vette vs. ZR-1 Vette. The supercharged LT-1 outperformed the ZR-1, and probably cost half the price.
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Old Dec 18, 2000 | 07:24 AM
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Dont try it unless youre willing to spend 5,000 plus the cost of installation plus the cost of the engine. It won't clear you shock towers man. And you would need the lt5 computer to run the fuel injection. I had my hands on a wrecked ZR1 about a year ago and I didnt go through with it because of the costs of that project, my brother went and bought the car anyway and after the massive amount of cash that he gave the man for his wreck(19,000:eek he hasnt been able to work on the damn thing. But the engine runs lovely. It purrs like a kitten.
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Old Dec 20, 2000 | 04:22 PM
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The engines go routinely for 13 - 15k. To give you an idea of what the swap take to do RIGHT, Tim Allan (Mr. Tooltime) spent 250,000 for a LT5 swap into a 1996 Impala SS.

Just a little cash and I'll bet my engine bays are bigger than yours.

Kelly Rosato
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Old Dec 29, 2000 | 06:42 PM
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Tim Allen spent $250k on the Impala, the LT-5 was just one part of that combination. And besides, we all know rich people pay way more for the stuff they own then they should, and that's only because they can pay that much.
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Old Jan 8, 2001 | 09:32 PM
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Despite what others have posted, the ZR-1 motor is all aluminum, Quad overhead cam, 32 valve, 16 injectors(2 per cylinder)and came with a lotus inspired 6-speed. Inside the car there is a switch which allows you to turn 2 cams, 16 valves and 8 injectors off for the car to run more economical. To purchase a motor/tranny is going to cost you well over 5 grand. For a third gen car I really doubt the overhead cams will clear the hood
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