switching carb on 350 for tpi
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Car: 1985 iroc-z
Engine: carb 350
Transmission: 700r4
switching carb on 350 for tpi
i was wondering if the tpi wiring was the same for the 305 and 350 the car had tpi but it was a 305. i bought it with the carbed 350. whenever they swapped the engine they left the harness and wiring for the tpi. i wanted to know if it would be a direct swap or if not how much work would be needed?
could i get the tpi setup and just put it on my 350?
could i get the tpi setup and just put it on my 350?
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Car: 1985 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: switching carb on 350 for tpi
i was wondering if the tpi wiring was the same for the 305 and 350 the car had tpi but it was a 305. i bought it with the carbed 350. whenever they swapped the engine they left the harness and wiring for the tpi. i wanted to know if it would be a direct swap or if not how much work would be needed?
could i get the tpi setup and just put it on my 350?
could i get the tpi setup and just put it on my 350?
Last edited by Black_Knight; Dec 29, 2009 at 11:29 PM.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
'85 TPI - 305 only, unique to that year. Not a very capable ECM. Not completely sure, but I believe the pin-outs were different from later years.
'86-'88 TPI - basically the same, 350 first available in '87. However, the base mounting changed from all 90 degree bolts to the center two on each side being at 72 degrees in '87.
'89 TPI - basically the same as '86-'88, but no cold start injector. Available in both 305 and 350. Unique to that year.
'90-'92 TPI - changed from MAF to speed density (MAP). Available in 305 & 350, various programming and other details within those model years.
If you get a system from one of the groups above, the wiring & ECM need to be from the same group. However, 305 or 350 isn't important for the wiring within each group. SD is the most sensitive to changes such as engine displacement.
If your username means you have an '89, and the TPI stuff in the car is '89 model year, you'll need '87-'89 stuff (the cold start injector can just be left plugging the hole if you get), assuming your 350 has '87-up heads. If '86-earlier heads, it would be easier to use an '85 or '86 base. For the sake of simplicity (and perhaps sanity), it would be best to avoid '90-'92 hardware - unless you're willing to convert to SD.
'86-'88 TPI - basically the same, 350 first available in '87. However, the base mounting changed from all 90 degree bolts to the center two on each side being at 72 degrees in '87.
'89 TPI - basically the same as '86-'88, but no cold start injector. Available in both 305 and 350. Unique to that year.
'90-'92 TPI - changed from MAF to speed density (MAP). Available in 305 & 350, various programming and other details within those model years.
If you get a system from one of the groups above, the wiring & ECM need to be from the same group. However, 305 or 350 isn't important for the wiring within each group. SD is the most sensitive to changes such as engine displacement.
If your username means you have an '89, and the TPI stuff in the car is '89 model year, you'll need '87-'89 stuff (the cold start injector can just be left plugging the hole if you get), assuming your 350 has '87-up heads. If '86-earlier heads, it would be easier to use an '85 or '86 base. For the sake of simplicity (and perhaps sanity), it would be best to avoid '90-'92 hardware - unless you're willing to convert to SD.
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Car: 1985 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: switching carb on 350 for tpi
'85 TPI - 305 only, unique to that year. Not a very capable ECM. Not completely sure, but I believe the pin-outs were different from later years.
'86-'88 TPI - basically the same, 350 first available in '87. However, the base mounting changed from all 90 degree bolts to the center two on each side being at 72 degrees in '87.
'89 TPI - basically the same as '86-'88, but no cold start injector. Available in both 305 and 350. Unique to that year.
'90-'92 TPI - changed from MAF to speed density (MAP). Available in 305 & 350, various programming and other details within those model years.
If you get a system from one of the groups above, the wiring & ECM need to be from the same group. However, 305 or 350 isn't important for the wiring within each group. SD is the most sensitive to changes such as engine displacement.
If your username means you have an '89, and the TPI stuff in the car is '89 model year, you'll need '87-'89 stuff (the cold start injector can just be left plugging the hole if you get), assuming your 350 has '87-up heads. If '86-earlier heads, it would be easier to use an '85 or '86 base. For the sake of simplicity (and perhaps sanity), it would be best to avoid '90-'92 hardware - unless you're willing to convert to SD.
'86-'88 TPI - basically the same, 350 first available in '87. However, the base mounting changed from all 90 degree bolts to the center two on each side being at 72 degrees in '87.
'89 TPI - basically the same as '86-'88, but no cold start injector. Available in both 305 and 350. Unique to that year.
'90-'92 TPI - changed from MAF to speed density (MAP). Available in 305 & 350, various programming and other details within those model years.
If you get a system from one of the groups above, the wiring & ECM need to be from the same group. However, 305 or 350 isn't important for the wiring within each group. SD is the most sensitive to changes such as engine displacement.
If your username means you have an '89, and the TPI stuff in the car is '89 model year, you'll need '87-'89 stuff (the cold start injector can just be left plugging the hole if you get), assuming your 350 has '87-up heads. If '86-earlier heads, it would be easier to use an '85 or '86 base. For the sake of simplicity (and perhaps sanity), it would be best to avoid '90-'92 hardware - unless you're willing to convert to SD.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Speed density TPI eliminates the MAF and the duct work which makes for a cleaner setup which I like.[/QUOTE]
And you aren't restricted by the restrictive MAF.
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Car: 1985 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 305TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: switching carb on 350 for tpi
I might have that backwards.
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