Cooled engine bay
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Re: Cooled engine bay
You obviously do not read/comprehend things very well.
I have explained that the engine bay receives fresh air CONSTANTLY, while at idle, and while cruising, electronically, you are never going to see a benefit, that is GREATER then the drawbacks.
Your idea is pointless, and wont do ANYTHING except waste time and money.
PERIOD!
I have explained that the engine bay receives fresh air CONSTANTLY, while at idle, and while cruising, electronically, you are never going to see a benefit, that is GREATER then the drawbacks.
Your idea is pointless, and wont do ANYTHING except waste time and money.
PERIOD!
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Re: Cooled engine bay
again, you obviously do not read/comprehend things very well.
ive never mentioned or said anything about an A/C unit.
I understand what you're questioning about air density, etc etc...
simple fact is, you arent going to be able to change it under the hood of an automobile.
the sooner you can grasp that concept, the better off you will be.
you also mentioned you dont care about power increase, i may ask, why even bother doing this then? you mentioned keeping the internal/external temps the same...which, wont make a damn bit of difference.
Just like others have said,{ i just wont be as mean, although i really want to be} this idea is pointless, will not do anything worthwhile, and is a waste of time/money...and bandwith on this website.
ive never mentioned or said anything about an A/C unit.
I understand what you're questioning about air density, etc etc...
simple fact is, you arent going to be able to change it under the hood of an automobile.
the sooner you can grasp that concept, the better off you will be.
you also mentioned you dont care about power increase, i may ask, why even bother doing this then? you mentioned keeping the internal/external temps the same...which, wont make a damn bit of difference.
Just like others have said,{ i just wont be as mean, although i really want to be} this idea is pointless, will not do anything worthwhile, and is a waste of time/money...and bandwith on this website.
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Re: Cooled engine bay
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Re: Cooled engine bay
Arguing with him is like racing a retard, He may win, but he is still retarded
I might understand if you are putting this cold air inside the engine, but you are putting it AROUND the engine.
Taking the hood off would be easier and serve the same purpose as what you are doing.
I might understand if you are putting this cold air inside the engine, but you are putting it AROUND the engine.
Taking the hood off would be easier and serve the same purpose as what you are doing.
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Re: Cooled engine bay
dont you think the engine is going to suck up the cold air around it? smh. how can somebody say it wont work and i see it happen everytime i go to work? this is no theory, its already being done, i just wanna do it on a smaller scale.
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You are contradicting yourself. You specifically said you do not want to do for any horsepower gain "you have plenty"
Think about this, how much Horsepower do you gain when the outside temps go from 90 degrees, to 60 degrees. You might gain 10-15hp, just enough to feel it in the butt dyno.
What is the purpose of this?, if GM,Ford,DODGE engineers thought it would benefit the customer by having engine bay "cooled" they would have done it.
If I were you, I would take your vast knowledge of cooling systems and run that cooled air in the cab. Design a system that does not use a horsepower robbing A/C compressor. That is something that might sell, and people could benefit from.
Think about this, how much Horsepower do you gain when the outside temps go from 90 degrees, to 60 degrees. You might gain 10-15hp, just enough to feel it in the butt dyno.
What is the purpose of this?, if GM,Ford,DODGE engineers thought it would benefit the customer by having engine bay "cooled" they would have done it.
If I were you, I would take your vast knowledge of cooling systems and run that cooled air in the cab. Design a system that does not use a horsepower robbing A/C compressor. That is something that might sell, and people could benefit from.
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Re: Cooled engine bay
Arguing with him is like racing a retard, He may win, but he is still retarded
I might understand if you are putting this cold air inside the engine, but you are putting it AROUND the engine.
Taking the hood off would be easier and serve the same purpose as what you are doing.
I might understand if you are putting this cold air inside the engine, but you are putting it AROUND the engine.
Taking the hood off would be easier and serve the same purpose as what you are doing.
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Re: Cooled engine bay
i dont need an ac compressor to do this, i dont even have an ac compressor in my car. i have an electric ac unit for the ac in the car. if you have a question about a specific part of my idea, ask. if your here to tell me it wont work, please stop waisting your time and mine. if you have an idea, or if u think a part of mine wont work and would like to discuss it, then we can talk. its very simple how it works, equipment is minimal, and it has amazing cooling power. like i said before, with enough electricity, i could easily make the air under the hood below 0. that would be pointless. cooler air means cooler air going into the engine.
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You sound like you are to stubborn to listen. You do this, get back with us with the advantages that you gained from this.
all we hear is blah blah blah I am stupid retard who wants to try to cool the underhood temps way below outside temps for whatever reason.
all we hear is blah blah blah I am stupid retard who wants to try to cool the underhood temps way below outside temps for whatever reason.
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Re: Cooled engine bay
its not just that, my idea is to take what i do at my job and apply it to everyday life, if i can get this to work on a small scale, who knows the possibilitys ya kno? maybe this might lead the way to a radiator free engine? or no ac compressors or any of that?
Re: Cooled engine bay
The no A/C compressor idea is something that you could pursue. But you just said this technology is here, and is being used in your line of work.
But how much electricity are you using?
They already have radiator free engines, they are Electric motors.
But how much electricity are you using?
They already have radiator free engines, they are Electric motors.
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Re: Cooled engine bay
but your mentality on this subject is a bit, MENTAL!
You are trying to "reinvent the wheel" in a way, and there is just no need for it.
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Re: Cooled engine bay
well the full scale at the plant uses 220 volts which gives it a range of -87 C to 400 C. all it does is charge the air based on what the temperature needs are. if the air it needs to cool is 100 C, and it has to cool it to 80 C, it will weakly charges the are to each other. at -87 C, it strongly charges it and the air particles are really tight together. thats why i say that the engine bay should not be sealed because when u draw particles together, that moving of them draws in more. maybe one day we can apply this into the engine itself with some kind of special oil that cools and lubricates?
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Re: Cooled engine bay
well the full scale at the plant uses 220 volts which gives it a range of -87 C to 400 C. all it does is charge the air based on what the temperature needs are. if the air it needs to cool is 100 C, and it has to cool it to 80 C, it will weakly charges the are to each other. at -87 C, it strongly charges it and the air particles are really tight together. thats why i say that the engine bay should not be sealed because when u draw particles together, that moving of them draws in more. maybe one day we can apply this into the engine itself with some kind of special oil that cools and lubricates?
use F*
second, i understand what you're talking about...but it has no purpose in this application!
you need to open your eyes, and realize this!
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Re: Cooled engine bay
im just use to using c because thats what we have at work. but i just wanted to start under the bay. i wasnt gonna stop there. if that worked, i probably was gonna move foward to the radiator or something, idk
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