yup... didn't have fog lights, now it does...

so now i have an rs / z28 / iroc clone.. poor f*kn car doesn't know what it is. but it looks better with the lights, and helps on the road quite a bit.

oh.. i did a bunch of other crap to it too.. fixed the nose grinder on the front, painted the light buckets black to hide some of the flaked off paint, lots of under the dash wiring work, polished my turn signals out since they were foggy, etc etc...

by the way.... it pisses me off that i only had to take out 4 little screws that i could remove with my fingers in order to take the stereo out, but had to remove half of my dashboard to get to the cigg lighter...... wtf is that about?

The car runs right now finally, i've just been cleaning things, fixing minor annoyances, and tweaking little things, etc. I plan to do the body work and paint this summer

 

What fog lights did you get? Do you happen to know what bulb type do they use? 880?

I'm looking for some foglights that look OEM but also use the same style bulb as factory. In hopes that I won't have to cut any of the factory wiring.

 

Well, honestly, i lucked out. Autozone had a set of foglights that looked remarkably similar to OEM fog lights, for $19.99, so i picked them up. As you can see my car didn't come with fogs so i didn't have the harness and switch like the factory equipped cars had, and had to finagle and rig some things up and run wires through the dash and around the engine compartment. (which i did the RIGHT WAY)

However, if the car did come with the harness, i would definitely have spliced the wires to the factory harness to make use of the OEM settings instead of a gawdy switch somewhere on my dash. I didn't feel too bad about cutting a hole for the switch on the left side of the dash on the little plate below the headlight **** because someone had already put a round toggle for some reason in the past, so i just made the hole into a rectangle and put the switch in. I'm considering unplugging the light though the red switch is fairly bright and distracting at night. That or i may paint all but a small piece of it so it still lights but isn't bright.

anyway, these fog lights use H4 bulbs i think. i'm not 100% positive about that, but i did look inside briefly when i flipped the housings around to aim the right direction for being mounted upside down, and that is what they appeared to be. I never read anywhere what they were specifically and i threw away the packaging today while cleaning out the garage.

As for personal preference though, if i had factory fogs on my car i'd have just left them alone, or if one was broken, i'd replace with another OEM most likely, however since i didn't have them, i opted to buy something that i knew would be a good upgrade and would provide better light. The fog lights are as bright if not brighter than my low beams!!!!! the only difference is that they are not as focused as the low beams, which really do seam to be BEAMS of light like a spotlight more than something that lights up the entire area.

I'm not used to that lol. My last car was a 00' z28 and the headlights lit up the entire road, and the fog lights were more for accent than anything - whereas the stock lights on the 91 don't really light up much of anything. Which of course is another reason i opted to put fog lights on the car aside from aesthetics. I pretty much have them aimed where the headlights are aimed. i'm sure it'll **** people off, but at least i'll be able to see more than 15 feet in front of the car! with the low beams (which ARE aimed correctly) they seem to light up a section about 8 feet wide at 50 feet barely. i can literally SEE a beam of light coming out of the lights. it's hard to explain, but, they really suck...

The next thing to upgrade for me will be the headlights. they don't spread light very well at all as i said. and me, with bad night vision, it's imperative that i have good headlights.

the lowbeam on my motorcycle is brighter than the entire camaro with all 6 lights on. (i tested this last night)

gotta love xenon.

(actually, i take that back. the first thing i'm going to do is start converting EVERY light in the entire damn car to LED aside obviously from the headlights)

i think i actually answered your question in there somewhere.

 

Thanks, you answered my question perfectly! Thank You.
Ya it appears all the foglights I find use an H3 type bulb. If I could find one that uses an 880 style, I think it would plug in directly to the factory harness.

Hawks, sells the 'factory side' pigtail, but not the other side. So I found out who makes that pigtail and emailed them if they make the piece that plugs into it. If they do, then I think I can use any foglight out there. I just need to splice into the pigtail and then plug it directly into the factory plug. But I'm not too hopeful that they'll make it.

So I think I'll be cutting off the plug and just splicing into the factory wiring.

LEDs for my interior are on my todo list too. I've already done the tail and parking lights. For my headlights, I'm going to do a projector/HID retro.

 

hmm... i don't know what it looks on either side, the pig tail or the factory light plug, but i guarantee it can be found online somewhere, or if you REEAAALLLYYYYYYY don't wanna cut your factory harness up, you can take an old bulb out of your existing lamps, brake the glass out of it (carefully) and solder wires to the guts and make your own plug... sounds a lot more difficult than it really is, i've done it tons of times for LED conversions on vintage bikes where i didn't want to cut the original wires -just in case-. if you're really careful you can solder the wires to the original filaments ... once their on there, fill it up with epoxy or at minimum hot glue. then you can use that to plug into the pig tails or solder them to the new lamps you got, or whatever you wanna do.....

but i guarantee someone makes them already, i've found a few specialty websites that have all sorts of crap like that, i just don't remember off the top of my head where they are or what i was looking for when i found them. lol

but do both of your current foglights work as is?

another thought is that you COULD just put whatever fogs you wanted on there, then run the wires to the dash and unplug the OEM foglight switch and plug your new ones into the switch. no reason not to, and you wouldn't have to cut any wires or whatever. just run new ones like normal.

 

I actually just found the pigtail connector, should have thought to look them up here first. Autolumination has them, scroll down to the 880 Male pigtails.

Question on your foglights, do they just have 2 wires that come out the back?