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WHat is a F41?? help please

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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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Car: 84 camaro z28 with F41 option ex-cop car
Engine: Carbed 305 v8
Transmission: 700r4
WHat is a F41?? help please

My 84 305 camaro has F41 on the back bumper what does that mean?
also my friend has a 1992 firebird it has S/A on the back what the heck does this mean i have never seen this on any other camaro or firebrid

thanks for ya help.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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F41 is the RPO for a suspension option. I've seen quite a few Camaros with that badge; but they're usually stripper cars with 4- and 6-cyl motors, so I don't know if the badge has anything to do with the suspension option.

I've never heard of a S/A Bird. There were S/E ones in the 80s, which were base model cars with some trim upgrades.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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Car: 84 camaro z28 with F41 option ex-cop car
Engine: Carbed 305 v8
Transmission: 700r4
well does it help that the car is an x-cop car?
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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There isn't much documentation (if any at all) on the optional F41 suspension. So I'm going by memory here... Back in 1984, I custom ordered a 1984 Sport Coupe. The F41 was a $49 option and included stiffer springs, specifically valved front struts and slightly larger sway bars. However, there were three mandatory options that had to be ordered to get F41.

1)
The first was a 305 V8, RPO LG4 ($550). Contrary to the statement above, you could not get F41 with a four-banger or a V6.

2)
The standard tire size on a Sport Coupe was a P195/75R14. To get F41, you had to order the optional tire size, a P205/70R14. Several types, i.e. blackwall, white stripe, white lettering, were available.

3)
The "rally" wheel was also mandatory, RPO ZJ7 ($112).

In addition, you got the rear bumper stripe proclaiming "F41" on the left side.

There were 17,230 Sport Coupes produced with F41 in 1984. Not many considering a total Sport Coupe production of 127,292 units.

F41 was a Sport Coupe option from 1982 thru 1985. It became the standard SC suspension in 1986.

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Willie
there were three mandatory options that had to be ordered to get F41.

1)
The first was a 305 V8, RPO LG4 ($550). Contrary to the statement above, you could not get F41 with a four-banger or a V6.
That ain't right. My 1985 Firebird is a 2.8 V6 Y99/F41. Unless you're just talking about camaros only and not firebirds, but that would be a rather nonsensical option layout.

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The standard tire size on a Sport Coupe was a P195/75R14. To get F41, you had to order the optional tire size, a P205/70R14. Several types, i.e. blackwall, white stripe, white lettering, were available.
Wrong again. Unless it's another counterintuitive camaro-only thing. Rule #1 is that you just cannot generalize one RPO over multiple years.. my 1985 Firebird came with factory 15 inch wheels and F41. The wheels were the cross-lace pre-GTA wheels that they made in 14" and 15" versions around that time.

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3) The "rally" wheel was also mandatory, RPO ZJ7 ($112).
I dunno where you're getting this stuff, but you're over-generalizing, and as such you have run into another rule breaker. No such RPO ZJ7 found on my car, and no other premium steering wheel RPO either. it has the base steering wheel.

Originally posted by Willie
included stiffer springs, specifically valved front struts and slightly larger sway bars.
the sway bars on my fbird are 32mm front, 21mm rear, which is identical to the WS6 sizes used in 1982, likely 1983. starting in 84 or 85 they beefed up the WS6 to 36mm/24mm if I remember right, and Y99/F41 was now a sort of middle-level option.

Look in the roads, not in the books.. you'll see numerous V6 F41's. I don't know what year ranges they made 'em and what differences there are from year to year, but they are not rare.

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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I am referring to 1984 Camaros. Firebirds are a completely different story and I have never claimed to know anything about them, only Camaros. So don't compare the two.

Back in 1984 when I specially ordered my SC, I wanted F41. Being newly married (we were both students at the time), I could barely afford to buy a new car (this was my second). I recall begging my wife to get power windows!! I was told by the special order guy at the local Chevy dealership that F41 was only $49, BUT I had to get the three options I listed above. All told, that was $550 for the engine, $112 for the wheels and over $100 for the tires. I could not afford this, so I did not get F41. I recall this distinctly. If anyone as any written documentation that either confirms or denies what I state, it would be greatly appreciated. Remember, Camaro info only.

Willie
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