House approves $2B more for C4C
Thread Starter
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 75
From: Plant City, FL
Car: 1991 Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
House approves $2B more for C4C
I would say "HAAAAA!!!!" but this affects me as well....darn it.
a leading Democrat saying "consumers have spoken with their wallets." I'm sure many haven't "spoken" with their wallets, rather, they've taken out a loan of some sort, but...i'm sure many of them will end up having it repo'ed.
I imagine this will get closed but....keep it clean guys.

a leading Democrat saying "consumers have spoken with their wallets." I'm sure many haven't "spoken" with their wallets, rather, they've taken out a loan of some sort, but...i'm sure many of them will end up having it repo'ed.
I imagine this will get closed but....keep it clean guys.
Last edited by CharcoalBird; Jul 31, 2009 at 07:14 PM.
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 731
Likes: 0
From: Chester, VA
Car: '88 GTA
Engine: L-98
Transmission: T-56
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
I would say "HAAAAA!!!!" but this affects me as well....darn it.
a leading Democrat saying "consumers have spoken with their wallets." I'm sure many haven't "spoken" with their wallets, rather, they've taken out a loan of some sort, but...i'm sure many of them will end up having it repo'ed.
I imagine this will get closed but....keep it clean guys.

a leading Democrat saying "consumers have spoken with their wallets." I'm sure many haven't "spoken" with their wallets, rather, they've taken out a loan of some sort, but...i'm sure many of them will end up having it repo'ed.
I imagine this will get closed but....keep it clean guys.
Banned
iTrader: (12)
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,212
Likes: 13
From: Bertram (outside Austin), TX
Car: 87 GTA
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Dana M78 3.27 posi
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
Sure you can.......
US Town Prints its Own Money
You can print it, but good luck getting anyone to take it.
US Town Prints its Own Money
You can print it, but good luck getting anyone to take it.
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 880
Likes: 1
From: Bloomfield, IN
Car: 87 Camaro
Engine: 305
Transmission: 700R4
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
Y'know I always thought to myself "Hey, the government should really give people some sort of incentive to buy a non-emission vehicle like taking their old gas vehicle as a trade in...but they'd never do that" and here they are raking out more money..at least its going to us and not to big companies this time. I know these aren't non-emission vehicles but at least they're a step up I guess...
Member
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 301
Likes: 1
From: Pittsburgh Pa
Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: 305
Transmission: 700 R4
Trending Topics
Supreme Member
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,412
Likes: 14
From: Northern CT
Car: 1986 Trans am
Engine: 5.3 LM7
Transmission: T56 6 speed
Axle/Gears: Dana 44 w/ 3.55's
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
Honestly, this program is a load of bullcrap. Lets rake out a ton of money and send the national debt skyrocketing to crush older cars that less fortunate people can afford, all while probably paying the crushing yards to dispose of them, and helping the car makers get going again after THEIR huge F-up. Sounds like something only obama could come up with. I didn't vote by the way.
Don't get me wrong, I love american cars and have never owned anything BUT american, but enough is enough. They messed up so let them fend for themselves.
Don't get me wrong, I love american cars and have never owned anything BUT american, but enough is enough. They messed up so let them fend for themselves.
Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
From: Canal Winchester, Ohio
Car: 1991 Trans Am Convertible
Engine: 305
Transmission: 5-Speed
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
I'm guessing it's a V8 because I think the V6 had 19mpg which would have made it ineligible.There was also a 1990 Mustang 5.0 Convertible there to be destroyed in addition to the 1998 Mercedes SUV and several other cars that someone could have used
Couldn't believe it. Member
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
From: Commerce MI
Car: 1991 Trans Am
Engine: 5L TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
I'm not in favor of the C4C. Sure seems like a massive waste of tax $$. However, it occurred to me today that it might make a lot of parts for 3gens actually cheaper. Yards have six months to strip off parts from C4C trade-in's, before they have to crush or shred the "bones". While I doubt a lot of 3gens are going into C4C (so many are owned now by enthusiasts), those that do will be stripped clean before crushing and a lot of parts will be put into the used market. Meanwhile, the ones that do get crushed will make the good ones that survive in our hands more rare/valuable. It's possible parts will be cheaper for us, and our cars worth more.
Moderator




Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 14,298
Likes: 197
From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
Actually the V6 would qualify if it had the Manual Transmission
I just checked and where they almost across the board decrease milage by 2 mpg, they lowered the V6/M5 by 3 for the highway...
John
I just checked and where they almost across the board decrease milage by 2 mpg, they lowered the V6/M5 by 3 for the highway...John
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,223
Likes: 1,148
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
How can our country spend itself rich? 

Don't re-elect re-peat spenders


Don't re-elect re-peat spenders
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
From: Strawn, IL
Car: 89 RS
Engine: 305... for now.
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
I like this idea better: they could give all us thirdgen owners an incentive to buy a LS engine and install it so we get better fuel economy. Or even the new V6 that is in the 2010. With 306hp I'd take that too.
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
Why is it not restrcted to buying a economical AMERICAN car. Toyota is loving it. We dont learn, spending American money to go overseas and not stimulate our economy.
Re: House approves $2B more for C4C
Not seeing that this is really 3rd gen history related except that there was one located in the "clunker lot", I'm going to close this. Sorry guys, but this is too heated a scenario that I'm afraid opinions and anti-Obama statements could get out of hand. I agree with most of you that this was a bad decision and adding another $2B to our debt is ridiculous.
Here is some good info to close on...
"Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the program's chief salesman, has pitched the rebates as good for America, good for car buyers, good for the environment, good for the economy. But it's difficult to determine whether the administration is overselling the claim without seeing what's being sold, what's being traded in and where the cars are being sold.
LaHood, for example, promotes the fact that the Ford Focus so far is at the top of the list of new cars purchased under the program. But the limited information released so far shows most buyers are not picking Ford, Chrysler or General Motors vehicles, and six of the top 10 vehicles purchased are Honda, Toyota and Hyundai."
Here is some good info to close on...
"Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the program's chief salesman, has pitched the rebates as good for America, good for car buyers, good for the environment, good for the economy. But it's difficult to determine whether the administration is overselling the claim without seeing what's being sold, what's being traded in and where the cars are being sold.
LaHood, for example, promotes the fact that the Ford Focus so far is at the top of the list of new cars purchased under the program. But the limited information released so far shows most buyers are not picking Ford, Chrysler or General Motors vehicles, and six of the top 10 vehicles purchased are Honda, Toyota and Hyundai."







