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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

There are some 4th gen leather seats out of a '97 Camaro for sale near me. Actually I'd like some input from those that have changed theirs. Whats better and whats worse?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

4Th Gen seats are 100% better than any stock 3rd gen seats. Cloth or leather 4th gem seats look good comfortable. My opinion and I have 95 Z28 seats in my 87 IROC-Z.

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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

id rather have my 89 cloth seats then my friends 95 transam leather seats. but im actually looking for some 4th gen cloth seats
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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I too prefer the feel of 3rd gen seats, in most cases anyway.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

I love 4th gen cloth seats. Front and rear seats.

I don't care for any leather seats though so I'm biased.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

i have the same seats in my 87 as DJP, just a bit more dirtier.

the advantages of upgrading to 4th gen seats that i've noticed is that there is more bolster support. i've also heard they're a good bit lighter than 3rd gen seats as well.

what i think would be perfect, would be to put a set of 3rd gen seat covers, on the 4th gen seats. look stock, upgraded performance.
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Originally Posted by UnderCover89TBI
id rather have my 89 cloth seats then my friends 95 transam leather seats. but im actually looking for some 4th gen cloth seats
Talking about TransAm seats. Are they different from the Camaro seats?
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

The 4th gen Firebird seat has a seperate headrest while the Camaro's isn't. I swapped to '01 leather T/A seats and love them.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

I swapped my 3rd Gen cloth for 4th Gen Leather out of a 99 Firebird. The new seats are 100% better. They are more comfortable and I got electric seats out fo the deal.

IMO they look a lot better too.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

4th gen seats are much more sturdy than the 3rd gen seats. I had my original coth base seats in my car, cloth deluxe seats in my car, and now I have 2002 Trans Am leather seats. I can say that the 4th gen seats are by far the best looking and feeling.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Check out my thread https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...gen-seats.html
I changed mine from stock cloth to the 4th gen 30th edition leather seats and they are much better then the stock 3rd gen cloth ones.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

I have owned a 1979 T/A, 84 Z-28, 1989 Formula and a 1996 T/A. The seats in the 96 T/A were awesome. If I found a set cheap would they bolt in very easily into a 1989 Formula?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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The 4th Gen seats are direct bolt ins.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

This past summer i put cloth seats out of a 97 transam into my 92 camaro and they look and feel so much better. They seem to hold you in, like a racing seat does.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

thats the extra bolster support i was referring to in my earlier post.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

If they bolt in easily I have to ask...... Anybody near Memphis with a set in black vinyl/leather? lol
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 05:25 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Originally Posted by megtom2
If they bolt in easily I have to ask...... Anybody near Memphis with a set in black vinyl/leather? lol
(8) fasteners for the front seats.
(4) fasteners for the rear seats.
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12 total

Check e-bay, they always have them.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

The seller sent me some pics of them: these are the 30th anniversary seats in black
The drivers seat has some slight wear signs on the left bolster. Well I'm gonna take a look at these.
Whats the price that a seat set would usually go for?
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Another vote for 4th Gen leather, I have 'em, I love em.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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Guess I'm lucky in that my GTA has the Ultima seats which are what the 4thgen TransAm seats are based on.

So many adjustments you almost need a manual for them seperately.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Swapped out the leather ultimas in the GTA for some 4th gen leather

My 3 other 3rd gens got similar treatments

Easiest interior mod you can do
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

I installed 95 Camaro leather into my 82, LOVED them. Infact I do believe that they sat a little bit lower than the stock seats, I am 6' 3" and I fit into the car better.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Originally Posted by swisscheese
The seller sent me some pics of them: these are the 30th anniversary seats in black
The drivers seat has some slight wear signs on the left bolster. Well I'm gonna take a look at these.
Whats the price that a seat set would usually go for?
I got my seats from a 1999 Firebird and they are in mint condition. I only paid $400 shipped.

I would offer him three.. btw sold my original seats for $400. They too were in ultra mint condition.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Got my seats on saturday and installed them on monday. They look awesome. The feeling is good by just sitting on them. Now wondering how the first drive will be (it snows actually... )

Some pics:
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Looks great!!! How much did you end up paying (if you do not mind me asking)
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

4th gen seats in a 3rd gen Camaro:
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:03 AM
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All look really good!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 04:58 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

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Looks great!!! How much did you end up paying (if you do not mind me asking)
I paid a little over $400.-. For Europe I think this is a good price, since there are not that many interiors for sale. (specially not the 30th anny)
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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That is a great deal. They look great in the car.

Congrats
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Thanks.
I think they make the car look more expensive...

Just one question. whats the deal in keeping the 3rd gen seattracks? can I keep those little plastic pieces in front and rear of the tracks?
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

3rd gen racks have an extra hole for the plastic pieces to screw to
4th gen racks do not, but some have plastic covers on top of the rack that do a similar job
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

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Thanks.
I think they make the car look more expensive...

Just one question. whats the deal in keeping the 3rd gen seattracks? can I keep those little plastic pieces in front and rear of the tracks?
My original seats were not electric and the new one are. The orig plastic pieces did not fit anymore
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

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3rd gen racks have an extra hole for the plastic pieces to screw to
4th gen racks do not, but some have plastic covers on top of the rack that do a similar job
this tilt feature of the manual 4th gen seat, is this in the racks or in the seat?
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Old Dec 30, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Racks, some 3rd gens got the option too
Both gens used the same 2 handle style

Some 4th gen TA seats had a movable pad, the part under your thighs
This is built into the seat thou
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

I too am getting ready to toss out the 3rd gen seats and install my 4th gen leather seats.

I HATE the interior on my 91, it's white/ALL RED interior, which is TOO much red!!

I bought a wrecked 2002 SS and sold everything but the interior (graphite leather w/15K miles) and am going to take out the red ones, and add the grey. I think it will look 100X's better. I'll get some pics up ASAP!!
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Hello All,
I wanted to know, I have power seats, do the plugs match or I have to splice and rewire in order to work. I love the way these seats look, plan on getting some tan leather one into my IROC. Also are the rears split in 4th gens since that is what I have in mine.
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

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Hello All,
I wanted to know, I have power seats, do the plugs match or I have to splice and rewire in order to work. I love the way these seats look, plan on getting some tan leather one into my IROC. Also are the rears split in 4th gens since that is what I have in mine.
The rears are split I do not know about the plug... My Bad I thought my seats were split in the back..

Thanks for correcting my mis info Pocket

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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The rears are split I do not know about the plug...
Bad info, no 4th gen EVER had split rear seats

The plug is different, either splice or buy a 2 pin plug from advance
If you get the seat harness (goes between the seats with the lumbar tubes) you only have to splice into the 2 wires at the end of the harness
Orange and black

If you do not buy the harness with the seats, then you are on your own for wiring it up
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 02:04 AM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Thats not a big issue about the rears beeing not split. How many times did you have to fold them down anyway?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

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I paid a little over $400.-. For Europe I think this is a good price, since there are not that many interiors for sale. (specially not the 30th anny)
That's a really good price, cheapest i've seen is £250 but the seats had a lot more wear than those.

If you get bored of them let me know
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

All of this seat talk has me thinking - is there any clothing in particular that sticks to leather?

I ended up throwing in some BMW seats into my Firebird last year. They're nice, comfortable, power everything (height, front to back, tilt, recline, bolster...you name it), but they don't hold me exceptionally well. I'm not sliding around, just don't feel too secure. Any ideas, should I paint myself with latex?
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Latex and hot sweaty skin

Sort of like the rubber band trick to prevent lost wallets
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

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That's a really good price, cheapest i've seen is £250 but the seats had a lot more wear than those.

If you get bored of them let me know
ok...
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Re: 3rd gen cloth vs. 4th gen leather seats

Originally Posted by smolek37k
Hello All,
I wanted to know, I have power seats, do the plugs match or I have to splice and rewire in order to work. I love the way these seats look, plan on getting some tan leather one into my IROC. Also are the rears split in 4th gens since that is what I have in mine.
Here is my thread on when I installed my 4th gen seats. I made a step by step guide that should get you through building your own harness. I HIGHLY recommend that you buy the connecting harness if both seat harnesses are in good shape.

Home made 4th gen seat harness
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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thanks, I planned on taking everything from the donor car, especially the wiring. But if worst comes to worst your instructions are pretty good in explaining how to create your own harness. thanks again for your help Ozz1967.
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