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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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man i got the worst feeling ever about this wiring...
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finally was able to dig out the camera so more pics are to come, don't mind the wiring, i ran out of supplies, but when i get some more i'm going to restart and organize!!!
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off topic pics,
my future lq9 project

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Where are your wire labels? I cant make heads or tails of that rats nest

Pull all the pins back out, bundle the connector's wires and tag each individual one
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label every single pin, or every connector?
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Both, and bind the circuits together so if a tag falls off you can ID it by association
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it's gunna be a while before i get back around to the wiring. School starts monday
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ok poocket, quick question, how does the PCM batter supply hook up, does it go to the third gen harness, or does it go straight to the battery???
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Fuel pump fuse near the battery like the 3rd gen ECM used
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ok, can u tell me which pins go to the third gen harness, so i can leave them out of the looming? red and blue please!
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for those who want to do ur wiring urself, my advise is to either send it to pocket, or buy one from painless... either or are plug and play
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for those who want to do ur wiring urself, my advise is to either send it to pocket, or buy one from painless... either or are plug and play
id go to Jon any day over painless, painless wont mate the harnesses as far as i know mines coming soon Jon!!
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id go to Jon any day over painless, painless wont mate the harnesses as far as i know mines coming soon Jon!!
found a ls1 harness from speedway motors for around 600 dollars, so if this wiring falls through i'll just order that one and send it and my third gen harness to pocket and let him fix it. I'm not doing wiring anymore if this one doesn't work
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does anybody know the specs of the motor mount bolts that go on the motor?
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37LBS This is the bolts that hold the motor mount to the block.

Err... Just rereading, I have no clue on the bolt specs.

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really needing the specs
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I just google searched it and I found it in 1 sec

http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation...ls1-block.html
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what would people go without google... will i be able to pick these bolts up at a hardware store?
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Yes
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freakin sweet!
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Fuel pump fuse near the battery like the 3rd gen ECM used


is this where you're talking about putting the PCM battery supply?
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Just a quick question for you...and please don't take this the wrong way....but why would you use that rusty, crashed, beat to heck shell for an LSx swap? To be honest with you, $500 seems like a lot for that. I have a freind selling an 87 305/5 speed TA for $850 right now....rough around the edges and high miles, but minimal rust and a solid platform to build on. I would start with a better body before getting too involved. Has the car even ever been checked for straightness?

I understand that you may be on a tight budget, but I left my good old 305 in my car for years before I finally had the cash to correctly do an LSx swap. It's not cheap no matter how you slice it, so I would def think about EVERYTHING you will need, and if you have to cut corners at all, just wait till you can do it right. It's easy to buy a motor and think you spent the major money already, but the engine itself is probably one of the cheaper things you'll need for the swap. To give you an idea, I paid $800 for my engine, but the harness and PCM will cost me $700 alone. The K member and trans crossmember were almost $900. It gets expensive quick!

Like I said, don't take any of this the wrong way. Just something I figured I'd throw out there. Oh and BTW, if your only running a 4.8 with a cam, a FAST manifold will be overkill and WAY more money added to the build. Go with an LS6 manifold....it will flow all you'll ever need for the 4.8.
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wow, this one hits close to home...I was raised in Evergreen And I live in Montgomery...nice to see you tackling this...ill definitely be watching!!
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Just a quick question for you...and please don't take this the wrong way....but why would you use that rusty, crashed, beat to heck shell for an LSx swap? To be honest with you, $500 seems like a lot for that. I have a freind selling an 87 305/5 speed TA for $850 right now....rough around the edges and high miles, but minimal rust and a solid platform to build on. I would start with a better body before getting too involved. Has the car even ever been checked for straightness?

I understand that you may be on a tight budget, but I left my good old 305 in my car for years before I finally had the cash to correctly do an LSx swap. It's not cheap no matter how you slice it, so I would def think about EVERYTHING you will need, and if you have to cut corners at all, just wait till you can do it right. It's easy to buy a motor and think you spent the major money already, but the engine itself is probably one of the cheaper things you'll need for the swap. To give you an idea, I paid $800 for my engine, but the harness and PCM will cost me $700 alone. The K member and trans crossmember were almost $900. It gets expensive quick!

Like I said, don't take any of this the wrong way. Just something I figured I'd throw out there. Oh and BTW, if your only running a 4.8 with a cam, a FAST manifold will be overkill and WAY more money added to the build. Go with an LS6 manifold....it will flow all you'll ever need for the 4.8.
car is straight... and car has ONLY 14,000 miles on it... it's been sitting up for years in the weather... i got my 4.8 with wiring and PCM for a 350, and a 305. i'm swapping 5.3 internals into the 4.8 with the 4.8 pistons to make it HO, heads, cam, intake, all of that is going on it. but i am going with the ls6 intake until i can find a fast 92... buddy of mine had the same setup in his car with the fast 90 and made a little over 400 HP. i know this swap is going to be expensive and i am on no budget... it's going to kick off in january, as i will have more money to throw away on it. I, myself, had a body man look at the car and he said that he didn't see anything wrong with the frame being warped... I got a car, with 14,000 miles on it for 500 dollars, u won't find that everyday. even has the '94 tag on it
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car is straight... and car has ONLY 14,000 miles on it... it's been sitting up for years in the weather... i got my 4.8 with wiring and PCM for a 350, and a 305. i'm swapping 5.3 internals into the 4.8 with the 4.8 pistons to make it HO, heads, cam, intake, all of that is going on it. but i am going with the ls6 intake until i can find a fast 92... buddy of mine had the same setup in his car with the fast 90 and made a little over 400 HP. i know this swap is going to be expensive and i am on no budget... it's going to kick off in january, as i will have more money to throw away on it. I, myself, had a body man look at the car and he said that he didn't see anything wrong with the frame being warped... I got a car, with 14,000 miles on it for 500 dollars, u won't find that everyday. even has the '94 tag on it
Are you sure the odometer didn't roll over once or twice since they only have 5 digit odometers? That car does not look like it has 14K miles on it. Either way, I would have just thought that you would want to start out with a nicer body if you plan on putting all this time and money into it for an LSx swap. Especially if you have no budget.
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http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab260/firebirdboi79/1990%20camaro%20rs/DSCN0474.jpg

is this where you're talking about putting the PCM battery supply?
That is the factory power dist block. I use a S10 5 pole block, but the purpose is the same. All of the the power wires are moved to the power block, instead of having some there and the rest on the starter
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Are you sure the odometer didn't roll over once or twice since they only have 5 digit odometers? That car does not look like it has 14K miles on it. Either way, I would have just thought that you would want to start out with a nicer body if you plan on putting all this time and money into it for an LSx swap. Especially if you have no budget.
na, i wanted to take a pile and turn it into something great... that's just how i think...
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That is the factory power dist block. I use a S10 5 pole block, but the purpose is the same. All of the the power wires are moved to the power block, instead of having some there and the rest on the starter
I'll PM you when i order the other harness...
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well got most of the third gen harness removed today, not sure how to remove this how do i remove it? do i just chop it or what?
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Inside the car, remove the pass hush panel and drop the ECM. Near the ECM is a small pigtail running into the dash, thats the C207. Unhook those and follow the harness to the fender. Remove the plastic C-clip, push the retainer in and the grommet will pop out and the bundle can be pulled through
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well i got the third gen harness out and removed all of the looming harness isn't in the best shape every, being out in the weather for 3 years cracked almost all of the insulation around the wires...
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As long as the C207 is intact and theres atleast 12" of good wire from the C100, its usable
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As long as the C207 is intact and theres atleast 12" of good wire from the C100, its usable
the C207 is in tact... and i believe i have more than 12" (inches) of wiring from the c100
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guys, goin to ford, sellin the motor, but keeping the car, will do this swap later on when funds are avaliable
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you know they make medicine for that, right?
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Hate to sound like the A-hole here, but I saw that coming...
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you know they make medicine for that, right?
Lmao!
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Hate to sound like the A-hole here, but I saw that coming...
Yeah, I think the guy was in a little over his head. Its ok, I too used to dream big when I was younger.

I read all these LS1 swap threads, I'm still working on buying a donor car. I'm willing to pay good money for one, so hopefully it works out.

Good luck with the Fords 1FSTBRD, don't give up on hot-rodding!
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hey hey hey, i got further than i thought... wiring is all together and back in the car, waitin on the starter and PCM to get here to see if i actually helped or hurt myself... more to come guys stay tuned
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Well i just read this whole thread and man was that a crazy ride!! I think you have decided to sell the motor/car and/or give up on it like 6 times. Then out of nowhere you make big progress on it. Keep with it man and dont give up so easy, it will be worth it in the end.
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Well i just read this whole thread and man was that a crazy ride!! I think you have decided to sell the motor/car and/or give up on it like 6 times. Then out of nowhere you make big progress on it. Keep with it man and dont give up so easy, it will be worth it in the end.
yea it has been one heck of a ride, but like i said, i won't know if i did good or not until i get the PCM and starter, which if everything goes like it's been going will be a while, i'm still debating on selling the 4.8 and going straight to ls1. But i'm not sure yet. i still do not have the motor mounts, fbody oil pan, or ls1/ls6 intake but i'm just doing a mock up right now to see if the wiring is correct

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yea it has been one hell of a ride, but like i said, i won't know if i did good or not until i get the PCM and starter, which if everything goes like it's been going will be a while, i'm still debating on selling the 4.8 and going straight to ls1. But i'm not sure yet. i still do not have the motor mounts, fbody oil pan, or ls1/ls6 intake but i'm just doing a mock up right now to see if the wiring is correct
Just keep the 4.8 as is, add a ls1 oil pan, ls6 intake, and reuse ur 700r4.... and youll prob. Be recieving an email from a mod about cussing on tgo... I know I did
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Just keep the 4.8 as is, add a ls1 oil pan, ls6 intake, and reuse ur 700r4.... and youll prob. Be recieving an email from a mod about cussing on tgo... I know I did
what happened to "if you got a problem research it, i'm not helping you out anymore." seriously dude i appreciate u tryin to help out, but after what all you've told me it'd be best if u didn't... i'd rather do some research then take ur advise now
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guys, goin to ford, sellin the motor, but keeping the car, will do this swap later on when funds are avaliable
Originally Posted by screaminformula
you know they make medicine for that, right?
Actually, I believe it requires surgery. . .
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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Re: another 5.3 LM7 build

lol yea, i had to sit back and think on it for a while, but finally decided that it would be cheaper gettin the 4.8 to run in the camaro, then buying a mustang, then buying a motor and harness...
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:23 PM
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Re: another 5.3 LM7 build

Originally Posted by 1FSTBRD
what happened to "if you got a problem research it, i'm not helping you out anymore." seriously dude i appreciate u tryin to help out, but after what all you've told me it'd be best if u didn't... i'd rather do some research then take ur advise now
thats fine with me... sending me 8-15 questions a day.. honestly gets old. i remember you asking me a different question every day where did i get my intake from, my cam from, my headers from, etc. asking me if my car was a berlinetta or a sport coupe 3-4 times within 2 months, asking me where did i get my hood 3 times, asking me MANY times to come basically rewire your harness, i could go on for a while.... i believe your in over your head for a 16 year old high school kid...with no job.. but what do i know i drive a sport coupe slow camaro.. have a nice day
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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Re: another 5.3 LM7 build

Originally Posted by 1nasty86
thats fine with me... sending me 8-15 questions a day.. honestly gets old. i remember you asking me a different question every day where did i get my intake from, my cam from, my headers from, etc. asking me if my car was a berlinetta or a sport coupe 3-4 times within 2 months, asking me where did i get my hood 3 times, asking me MANY times to come basically rewire your harness, i could go on for a while.... i believe your in over your head for a 16 year old high school kid...with no job.. but what do i know i drive a sport coupe slow camaro.. have a nice day
first off dude, ur camaro looks like spit... and i'm 17... and like i said a long time ago i don't need ur advise if ur gunna be a douche bag about it, and if i really wanted u touching my car or helping me out with it i would have found someway to pay you, so the best thing u can do is stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours... understand, or do i need to type words that you can actually understand?
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 11:43 PM
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Re: another 5.3 LM7 build

Originally Posted by 1FSTBRD
first off dude, ur camaro looks like spit... and i'm 17... and like i said a long time ago i don't need ur advise if ur gunna be a douche bag about it, and if i really wanted u touching my car or helping me out with it i would have found someway to pay you, so the best thing u can do is stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours... understand, or do i need to type words that you can actually understand?
well 1. i counted 4 times within the past 3 months you said "car looked good last night" or "man that cars sick" 2. you have offered me money to come over and rewire your harness and i didnt reply to you 3. i understand your words mr. 10th or 11th grader?..... being ASE certified as a mechanic helps me "understand" your words too. thanks for going easy on the words there
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