Late 4th Gen F-body LS1 or 3rd Gen F-body LM7 Swap?
Late 4th Gen F-body LS1 or 3rd Gen F-body LM7 Swap?
Hello, I've been searching and researching for a new vehicle to get. I've considered the following options as my main wants:
1998-2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS/Z28 t56
1998-2002 Pontiac Trans Am Ws6
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LM7 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LM7 t56 swap
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LT-1 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LT-1 t56 swap
I'm having a hard time deciding on what would be the most cost effective. I understand the 4th gens are so good in terms of looks, but at the cost of 10k for an unmolested one is hard to come by and aren't that easy to find. The 3rd gens have such amazing character but I've heard that a swap can get really costly even with the cheaper 5.3 engine or 5.7 LT-1 engine.
What i want to know is what experiences people have had with either the swaps or the 4th gens. For the swaps i want to know how costly (both mentally and to your wallet) the swap was. The car's gonna be a daily driver for most of the part and occasionally head to the track for a test-and-tune.
1998-2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS/Z28 t56
1998-2002 Pontiac Trans Am Ws6
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LM7 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LM7 t56 swap
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LT-1 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LT-1 t56 swap
I'm having a hard time deciding on what would be the most cost effective. I understand the 4th gens are so good in terms of looks, but at the cost of 10k for an unmolested one is hard to come by and aren't that easy to find. The 3rd gens have such amazing character but I've heard that a swap can get really costly even with the cheaper 5.3 engine or 5.7 LT-1 engine.
What i want to know is what experiences people have had with either the swaps or the 4th gens. For the swaps i want to know how costly (both mentally and to your wallet) the swap was. The car's gonna be a daily driver for most of the part and occasionally head to the track for a test-and-tune.
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From: Gresham Oregon
Car: 1985 Z28 & 1997 Z28 SS SLP
Engine: Sbc 305 TPI & LT1
Transmission: 700r4 and A4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt Posi 323 & Posi 323
Re: Late 4th Gen F-body LS1 or 3rd Gen F-body LM7 Swap?
I own an 84 Z28 & 96 Z28, for for speed & fun it's the 96 hands down, for great looks ,handling, & ease to work on it's the 84, My 84 is my daily driver & this June I plan to swap the drive train from the 96 into the 84 etc. The best of both worlds for me I hope. I have not owned an LS1 F-body, but can only assume it's even fasted/better than my LT1. Money will not be a problem as I picked up my 84 for $1000 & got my 96 from trading an 87 SWB chevy truck. I enjoy my 84 so much I'm gonna move ahead w/swap & ditch what's left of the 96, best wishes whichever way you go
Joined: Sep 2009
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From: Dallas, Texas
Car: 92 RS
Engine: LS1
Transmission: TKX
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Late 4th Gen F-body LS1 or 3rd Gen F-body LM7 Swap?
Hello, I've been searching and researching for a new vehicle to get. I've considered the following options as my main wants:
1998-2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS/Z28 t56
1998-2002 Pontiac Trans Am Ws6
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LM7 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LM7 t56 swap
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LT-1 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LT-1 t56 swap
I'm having a hard time deciding on what would be the most cost effective. I understand the 4th gens are so good in terms of looks, but at the cost of 10k for an unmolested one is hard to come by and aren't that easy to find. The 3rd gens have such amazing character but I've heard that a swap can get really costly even with the cheaper 5.3 engine or 5.7 LT-1 engine.
What i want to know is what experiences people have had with either the swaps or the 4th gens. For the swaps i want to know how costly (both mentally and to your wallet) the swap was. The car's gonna be a daily driver for most of the part and occasionally head to the track for a test-and-tune.
1998-2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS/Z28 t56
1998-2002 Pontiac Trans Am Ws6
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LM7 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LM7 t56 swap
OR
1982-1992 Chevrolet Camaro LT-1 t56 swap
1982-1992 Pontiac Firebird/Trans am LT-1 t56 swap
I'm having a hard time deciding on what would be the most cost effective. I understand the 4th gens are so good in terms of looks, but at the cost of 10k for an unmolested one is hard to come by and aren't that easy to find. The 3rd gens have such amazing character but I've heard that a swap can get really costly even with the cheaper 5.3 engine or 5.7 LT-1 engine.
What i want to know is what experiences people have had with either the swaps or the 4th gens. For the swaps i want to know how costly (both mentally and to your wallet) the swap was. The car's gonna be a daily driver for most of the part and occasionally head to the track for a test-and-tune.
It is easy to make a 3rd Gen go fast but hard to make a 4th Gen look good.
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From: port huron michigan
Car: 1985 camaro
Engine: 496
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: Late 4th Gen F-body LS1 or 3rd Gen F-body LM7 Swap?
that seems to be the central theme to this forum.i've noticed you have something for fuel injection.
i have to ask why a swap? for the money you shell out for an ls1 car or most swaps you could build up a tuned port car that would serve your needs just fine.
this is a good thread if you decided to not forsake the old sbc.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/afte...-l98-mods.html
personally i think theres alot to be said about focusing on your converter, and your gear ratio in terms of making a fun DD. you dont have to have a 12 second swap car to beat mustangs and 4th gens light to light.
Re: Late 4th Gen F-body LS1 or 3rd Gen F-body LM7 Swap?
I'm having a hard time deciding on what would be the most cost effective. I understand the 4th gens are so good in terms of looks, but at the cost of 10k for an unmolested one is hard to come by and aren't that easy to find. The 3rd gens have such amazing character but I've heard that a swap can get really costly even with the cheaper 5.3 engine or 5.7 LT-1 engine.
Joined: Sep 2003
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From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Late 4th Gen F-body LS1 or 3rd Gen F-body LM7 Swap?
I’d love to see the 288 cam and 4000 stall make a pass. It should pick up some. Fresh shortblock maybe the power and compression will come back. I wouldnt put it on a 102 icl tho. 106-108
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