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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 07:30 PM
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Silver '84 Z28

I have been reading posts here for a few years and thought it was about time for me to share my Camaro with the community.

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My dad who is a GM technician special ordered this Camaro for $15,992.00 and took delivery on May 8, 1984. He drove the car off an on, sometimes as a daily driver and sometimes just a weekend car until 1997 when he decided to park it and drive something more fuel efficient. 20 years later dad mentioned selling the car to make space in the garage for his daily driver. I proposed working with him to get the car back on the road and taking it off his hands. On February 16, 2017, Dad signed over the title to me with 86,967 miles on the odometer.







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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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The car was in pretty much stock form when I got it and remains that way today. Here are the decoded RPO codes that I pulled out of the console:

RPO Codes:
AC3 - Seat Adjustable-6 way Power, Bucket Seat Type —Driver
AG9 - ADJUSTER, SEAT, POWER, 6 WAY
AR9 - Seat — Front Bucket with Recline
AU3 - Lock — Side Door Electric
A01 - Tinted Glass — All Windows
A31 - Window — Electrical Control
A90 - Lock — Rear Compartment Lid Remote Control — Electric
BS1 - Package — Acoustical Insulation
BY8 - Exterior Ornament — Molding
B34 - Front Floor Mats & Carpet Insert
B35 - Rear Floor Mats & Carpet Insert
B84 - Molding — Body Side Black
B91 - Molding — Door Edge Guard
B94 - Emblem — Body
B97 - Spoiler — Rear Fender
CC1 - Panels — Removable Roof Hatch
CD4 - Washer & Wiper Pulse Windshield
C25 - Washer & Wiper — Rear Window
C49 - Defogger — Rear Window Electric
C60 - Air Conditioning — Manual Control
DG7 - Mirror — Remote Control O/S Rear View — Electric Sport
DK6 - (Console — Roof Interior)
D03 - Paint — Water Master
D1T - (Gear — Speedo Driven)
D34 - Mirror — Visor Vanity
D42 - Cover — Rear Compartment Security
D80 - Spoiler — Deck Lid
D88 - Decal Stripe — Hood and Deck Lid
E5Z - (Speedometer Adapter (Delete))
E6N -
E9Z - (Speedometer Key (Delete))
GT4 - Axle — Rear/3.73/Ratio
G80 - Axle — Rear/Locking Type
J65 - Brakes — Power Disc Front & Rear
K19 - Air Injection System
K22 - Delcotron — 94 Amp
K34 - Control — Speed & Cruise with Resume Electronic
L69 - Engine — V8 5.0L
MD8 - Transmission — 4 Speed Automatic — 700R4
MX0 - Transmission — 4 Speed Automatic — Merchandising Option Only
NA5 - Emission System — Federal
NB1 - Emission Control — Closed Loop
NK3 - Wheel — Steering Formula
N33 - Wheel — Steering/Tilt Type
N65 - Wheel & Tire — Stowaway Spare
N90 - Wheel — Aluminum
QYZ - (Tire All, P215/65R15/N BL R/PE ST TL HWY)
TR9 - Lamp Group
TT5 - Tungsten Quartz Halogen Headlamps
T63 - Buzzer — Headlamp Warning
T93 - Tail & Stop Lamp Special
UA1 - Heavy Duty Battery
UE8 - Clock Electric/Digital
UP8 - Installation Provisions — Radio — Stereo
UU6 - Radio — AM/FM Stereo Cassette ETR with Clock
U05 - Horn — Dual
U21 - Cluster, Instrument (Oil, Water, Battery, Tachometer)
U25 - Lamp — Luggage Compartment
U26 - Lamp — Engine Compartment
U29 - Lamp — Courtesy
U75 - Antenna — Power FDR
U79 - Speaker, 4 Dual Front Coaxial, Dual ETR Rear
VAN - Assembly Plant, Van Nuys, CA
V73 - Vehicle Statement, USA/CANADA
WU1 -
YE2 - CONVENIENCE PKG, DECOR LEVEL #2, LOW TRIM
YT1 - Custom Build Up Door and Quarter
YT9 - OPTION PACKAGE, FISHER FURNISHED PARTS
Y06 - Panel — Cowl Kick — Carpeted
Z28 - Special Performance Package
1AZ - Customer Ordered
15L - SECONDARY COLOR, EXTERIOR, ASTRAL SILVER (91)
15U - PRIMARY COLOR, EXTERIOR ASTRAL SILVER (91)
17A - STRIPE COLOR, ACCENT, SILVER (91)
17I - INTERIOR TRIM, CHARCOAL (91)
17R -
179 - SEAT BELT, COLOR CHARCOAL (91)
6ZX - SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, LEFT HAND
7ZX - SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, RIGHT HAND
8NL - SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, LEFT HAND
82P - WHEEL COLOR SATIN SILVER??
9NL - SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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We turned over the engine with a breaker bar to make sure it wasn't seized, bought and put on new tires, changed all fluids, replaced the coolant hoses, repaired a power steering leak, replaced the hood and hatch shocks, resurfaced the brake rotors, installed new brake pads and replaced the spark plugs and wires.





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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 08:33 PM
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In preparation to get the car to a point where it would pass inspection there were several other issues that presented themselves.

The plastic fitting connecting the shifter to the transmission disintegrated and had to be replaced. The fuseable link next to the starter burned through when trying to use the electric windows the first time. The sway bar endlinks' rubber dampers were cracked and worn out so they were replaced.

The largest issue we had was trying to repair the steering column. Probably 10-15 years ago, someone broke into the car and did some damage to the steering column by cracking open the shroud and ripping off the turn signal stalk. Until we fixed this, the turn signals, high beams and windshield wipers would not work and prevented us from passing inspection. We kept coming back to it off and on for a few months, ordering parts online that never quite ended up working but could not seem to find the correct pieces or all of the parts we needed. We got lucky and one of dad's co-workers is restoring his own Camaro and bought a parts car for some of his needs. We ended up taking the steering column from him and moving over the final parts.




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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 08:37 PM
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On July 28, 2018 the Camaro passed inspection for the first time since May of 1996 and we could finally get a license plate for it.

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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 08:38 PM
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Great car and story, the early models are my favorites.
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 09:02 PM
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I knew I was going to autocross this car so decided that a steering brace and subframe connectors would be wise investments to avoid any structural damage from sharp sudden turns.

I purchased and installed a steering brace from http://www.top-downsolutions.com/ste...or-firebird-(a .

I also purchased Alston Subframe Connectors from them as well http://www.top-downsolutions.com/cha...rd-(aka-f-body) . I will say, these were not as easy to install as anticipated. The passenger side was difficult to maneuver around the exhaust and the ends didn't really conform to the frame the way I expected and we needed to hammer on them a bit for a tight fit. It was really handy to have access to a lift.

I also went ahead and bought greaseable front and rear swaybar bushings while I was ordering. http://www.top-downsolutions.com/cha...1983-92-camaro http://www.top-downsolutions.com/cha...aro-or-firebir




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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 09:19 PM
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We decided it was reliable enough for the 200 mile trip back to my house in Raleigh, NC, but the morning of the drive, the starter gave out and we had to postpone until after parts had been ordered and repaired.

Finally, on February 3, 2019, almost two years after transferring the title, I was on the road back home. There were no problems on the drive, but upon getting off the highway, I noticed that a belt was squeaking. I told myself, "that is just a thing that old cars do."

A few hours later on my way to a Super Bowl party, I was changing the belt that runs the alternator and water pump. I have had to change this belt multiple times and have not figured out why yet. All pulleys are spinning freely and appear to be aligned on the same plane, though the pulley on the alternator seems wider/deeper than the crank and water pump pulleys. If anyone knows if that is correct, or has any suggestions on what may cause the belt to wear down and break frequently, let me know. I have just resorted to carrying tools, a spare belt and pre-mixed coolant. I have gotten quite good at replacing this belt and my record time was 8 minutes from pulling over to driving off again and that was set in the dark on my way to an autocross event.

A week after bringing the car back, she got her first real bath in I don't know how long and now proudly parks in my garage. Dad finally has an available spot for his car in his garage.



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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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I haven't had to do any major work on the car since. I have replaced the dome light cover that was disintegrating, replaced the light with an LED, polished the foggy gauge cluster lens, fabricated my own grill inserts from gutter guards after the originals crumbled away, replaced the cracked window sweeps on both doors, did some detailing of the interior and under the hood, cleaned up the t-top bag and added a front air deflector to decrease temps on the highway.

The driver side headlight only comes on when the high beams are triggered. I suspect there is something wrong with the connection between the passenger and driver headlight in the low beams circuit but haven't had time to dig in to it. The lights that illuminate the speedometer in the gauge cluster are either burned out or, more likely, there is some missing connection in the circuit behind the gauges. I would also like to replace the headliner that is starting to fall down a bit in the rear. I consider these minor and will hopefully get to some of them this winter.

The car is also 35 years old now, so in North Carolina, no more inspections are needed for safety or emissions. Someday, I would like to remove the AIR system to clean up under the hood, add some better headers, replace the exhaust that is starting to rust and put on a catalytic converter that does not require the AIR system.







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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 10:10 PM
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Autocross
I have taken the Camaro to 7 autocross events this year with one left later this month. I have been running in CAM-T class which is a bit of a money pit to be competitive in. The biggest improvements I need to make right now are new wheels and tires and improving the nut behind the steering wheel The all season tires I have right now look period correct for when the car was new, but are pretty terrible for autocross. There is close to no grip and I am constantly fighting to keep the rear tires behind the front tires, failing only twice this season.

During the off-season, I plan to put some 275/35R18s on the car but haven't picked out wheels yet. I think 18x9.5 Corvette or 4th get wheels are the way to go. I don't know of any wheels that size that would not require spacers or adapters and come in under $800. If anyone has advice on wheels, my ears are wide open.





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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 10:39 PM
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Awesome car I love the early ones as well! Good to see you enjoying it.
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 11:41 PM
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GM C5z are alcoa and getting cheaper these days, they would look pretty sharp
Like the idea of a TBI earlier Z...easy to fix and sitll 80s cool.

At least you are driving it not storing it like its some rare hope diamond.

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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 03:13 AM
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Great story. Thanks for posting!
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Old Oct 6, 2019 | 11:47 AM
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Nice car man. Good job reviving it.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 01:00 AM
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She cleaned up nice. I was worried about the interior.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 06:49 AM
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Thanks for the kind words everyone!

She cleaned up nice. I was worried about the interior. [img]images/smilies/goodjob.gif[/img]
The interior is actually in really good shape no rips in the vinyl seats, no cracked dash pad and no stains in the carpet. There are some scratches on some of the trim in the trunk but I haven't bothered with those yet.

I ordered up some LED lights last night for the interior. I will add some pictures once those are installed.
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 04:16 PM
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Re: Silver '84 Z28

wow,that car is stunning.you are a lucky guy to have a father kind enough to a) preserve a beautiful car like this and b) pass it on to you
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 07:58 PM
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Sweet car. Great color and options. Unique.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 09:42 AM
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Back in October 2019, I resolved the headlight issue. It turned out to just be a bad headlight. I also went through and replaced all of the interior lights with LEDs from superbrightleds.com. The lights in the footwell and console were a breeze, but the gauge cluster is a different story. I struggled for quite a while trying to replace them with a piece of hose and long reach needle nose pliers, but save yourself the trouble and just pull the whole gauge cluster. The toughest part of pulling the gauge cluster is unhooking the speedometer cable, but that can be done pretty easily with a long screwdriver or pry bar pressed against the clip from underneath. You will need to take some of the panels below the steering column off, but trust me, this is the way to go.

LEDs:
Before:

After:


I bumped the kilometer needle when I was trying to get the lights in and it snapped off. I still haven't glued that back on, but since then, the speedometer seems to be unbalanced and a little floaty. I have purchased another speedometer from a user here that I will be swapping in at a later date that goes to more than 85mph.
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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 10:55 AM
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Also in October, I replaced the alternator pulley and that seems to have resolved the belt issue I was having before.



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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 11:09 AM
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Months before, the driver's side door key lock had a failure and the front broke off. I have no idea how this happened. The lock was fine when I locked it before playing a round of golf, and when I got back, the metal had sheared off all the way around the keyhole and the springs and shutter were laying on the ground. In November, I decided to order a new set of locks and had them re-keyed to my key. I replaced the driver side lock and still have a spare in case I need it in the future. While I had the door panel off, I removed the door handle, sanded it down, and repainted it with SEM Trim Paint.Before:


After:

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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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Over December and January, I fixed some leaks. I had transmission fluid leaking from the speedo gear housing that I easily fixed with some new seals from Classic Transmission Solutions.

The bigger challenge was my power steering pump leaking from the front seals. At first, I thought I would just replace the seals, but there was paint missing from the power steering reservoir and the hoses were still original, so I just ended up going to Rock Auto and bought a remanufactured power steering pump, high and low-pressure hoses and a power steering inline filter.
This video from J Robling on YouTube was helpful.
I purchased a Pulley Remover and Installer set from Harbor Freight and ended up having to take off my fan to get the pulley off. If you are having trouble with getting your power steering pump loose, I would bet good money that you missed the second bolt in the back. I was able to get it off with a box wrench. I struggled to get the belt tight after replacing the pump, but an adjustable wrench on the little square nut provides adequate pressure. DO NOT PRY ON THE RESERVOIR!

On a positive note, when I had to take the fan off I noticed that there were dirt dauber nests between my radiator and AC condenser. This probably attributed to some of my overheating problems. I am going to start calling this car the Dirt Dauber because any time I uncover a new area of the car, there are always remains of their pipe organ nests.




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Old Apr 23, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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In February, I finally pulled the trigger on wheels and tires to help with autocross. Last year, the BFGoodrich Radial T/A's were good learning tools, but they were never going to be competitive. I pulled a few 180's with those tires and really learned how to ride on the edge of grip because I was there frequently.

I ordered a set of 4 - 17x9.5 OE Replica wheels from Hawks Motorsports and 275/40R17 Falken Azenis RT615K+ tires. I grabbed the spacers from Hawks Motorsports as well, but 2" in the front was not enough to clear the tie rods so I had to add an additional 1/4" spacer there. Someday I will try to find 2 1/4" spacers to replace the stacked spacers I have now. If I were going to do it over right now, I would get the 18" wheels instead of the 17" wheels. I thought I researched the subject enough, but there aren't that many tires to pick from in 275/40R17 and the 18" would give better clearance.

Having both sets of tires stacked next to each other, you can really tell how much extra grip the wider tires have. I did get to one autocross event before Covid-19 quarantines, and they were worth every penny. I knew it was going to make a huge difference, but it was like a completely different vehicle. It took me a while to get used to how far I could push it and I still never got to the limit. I finished 72/123 in PAX where before I would have definitely been over 100. I am not blind to the fact that I have a long way to go to be a great driver, but this was a very nice upgrade.


The perspective plays tricks on your eyes, but the diameter on both the old and new tires are almost identical, so there is not a giant gearing change here.





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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 03:04 PM
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Re: Silver '84 Z28

Very nice looking Camaro! I like the wheels, bit you definitely need to lower it now. Eibach springs are totally worth it. Also, some nice KYB AGX adjustable shocks and struts. Your road course times will thank you. Maybe some weight Jack's, if you are getting serious about auto-x. They shouldn't bump you into a different class (Your subframe connectors already did that, I believe) and they will definitely improve your performance.
Car looks fantastic!
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Old Apr 26, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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Thanks for the advice. The car is already classed in CAM-T, so the only limitations are 200TW tires and some aero stuff like diffusers, splitters, spoilers, etc. I was already planning to put Koni yellows on at some point this year, just waiting on money and time. I haven't done a lot of research on lowering springs yet. I am not sure if there would be clearance issues with the tires, I don't have any plans to cut up the car. I am also not sure how lowering springs or weight jacks affect the suspension geometry and what changes I need to make to correct it.
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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 08:31 AM
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Re: Silver '84 Z28

Great looking car! Makes me miss my silver 82 Z28 I sold last summer!


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Old Apr 27, 2020 | 09:01 AM
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Wow, that is clean. I like the red stripe, it really makes the silver look bright.
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