i vote jesse cuz his car has a weight advantage.

i wont be running cuz i have nothing new and i know how slow my car is right now.

i will watch for sure though and ill bring my tools so if anyone needs fine quick work ill be thier.

i am working on the 8th so i am gonna see if i can work the morning or get off early...

 

whos bennie?

2900ish lbs race weight w00t

 

1TUF92Z is bennie and he has a nice motor sitting under his 92's hood

 

fun fun

 

isnt the 8th CMI? R*cer city

 

yeah but we're racing on friday the 7th for that reason

 

RIGHT ON!!! It's going to be all out racing ehh. Yeah...I sure can't wait. I must finish IROCDADDY's cuz I got things to do. Like make sure the A/C works cuz I don't want to be hot when racing. I am not going to a gunfight with a knife. This is going to be "run whatcha got". Right???

 

its not real racing till someones got giggle juice

hey benny i was curious, and terrel didnt know either, what heads cam you got ?

 

Ohh and one more thing, I gotta make sure it passes smog. I
definitely don't want to pollute the air racing, not good for our health.

 

answer my question please.

 

here we go.....asking question already. it doesn't matter. like i said on the previous post, "run whatcha got".

Okay, I'll give in...it's TPiS ZZ9 cam. Hence, the miniram w/1204 ports. Ohh my my, I forgot the exact spec. But i know for sure it is a half step above the ZZ3 cam which is .474in/.510ex 208/221 duration

the heads are brodix(2.02in/1.60ex 190 runners i think) it's been to long.

 

and heads?

no big deal but i realized either i never knew or iforgot, and now i remembered that i never knew. so what heads again?

 

212/226 duration@.050 .483/ .520 lift 112LSA

thats a small cam I thought you had something bigger than that should get the 9x or atleast the 409

 

409 came out after the ZZ9. I started buying my parts 10 years back. The motor was built 3-4 years ago. Gees, time has gone by too quick.

 

I am suppose to dyno it this weekend in San Jose. Will see how it goes.

Travis, see post above for the heads.

 

oh!!!!!!

time for a new motor then, I take that old out dated one off your hands for yeah

 

nah, too much money into it.

 

ill trade you heads

 

with what??? no thank you!!!

 

you know what heads i got?

 

PWN3D

 

lookin at your specs bennie, i'd say that (barring catastrophic mechanical failure of SOME sort) jessie is gonna rape you lol unless you've got something hidden in there.

especially since his car is so light im fairly certain that we could all pick it up and carry it.

 

girls spell it jessIe guys spell it Jesse

 

Yup run what cha brung

 

i give it to bennie jesse's tranny is gonna explode

 

I say on the 1-2 shift

 

...i hate you guys for jinxing it

 

C'mon now, let's be realistic.
Jesse would have to have to break well into the 10's to "rape" Bennie's setup.
Seeing that it's his first time running and probably will have some bugs to work out. ..not a chance.
Those kind of times don't come easy no matter how light the ride may be.
I'll take bets, heh.

 

IHI runs 10s with basically the same motor as me, slightly less cam (probalby not even 10 degrees) bout 30 less cubes , afr 210s stead of 20s like me (makes sence for motor size) same compression, better suspension (60 ft is everything, im good there and i should be able to hit it) and 3600lbs race weight. Think hes dippin mid 10s. Not saying its going to happen, just saying its more likely than youd think. Im saying nothing "bad" happens within hte first 100 feet and I can nail a 1.5-1.6 60ft and I should be good. Only thing im worried about really right now (other than the tranny and rear holdin up) is that my stock fuel line is be enough to support this motor. Might be, might not be well see. Its up in the air. Now to find out what i found in my air cleaner, just looked at it and tossed it but f*ckin now that I think about it f*ckin looks like it mighta been a crumpled up ring

 

Oh don't get me wrong, your car has the "potential" for those kinda times no doubt.
I just don't see it happening your first visit!
I'll stick to my guess that 1TUF92Z will be tough to hang with, let alone smoke.

 

All entitled to our own opinions, hell i have no idea what that cat runs

 

there's a reason why the T-5 was never put behind a 350TPI

a world class T-5 is rated at 290lb-ft torque and usually last behind a stock or lightly modded 350TPI. but you'd be more than pushin it with your 412 and non-WC T-5.

don't mean to jinx you but I wouldn't chance it with that tranny or a 10 bolt. but atleast your gonna trailer it

 

I do have a WC T-5, but ya trailering it for a reason

 

thats gm's **** talk excuse . the real reason is the T5 350 would smash on a corvette of similiar year with minor mods, and 20k less.

 

then why didn't the vette get the T-5

Nissan used the WC T-5 in the 84-86 300zx turbo they stopped using it cause it was weaker then the non-turbo tranny

 

The 'vette theory is possible, never to be proven, but I read the more probable reasons are:

1) GM refused to warranty the 350 TPI/T-5 combination because they knew that were they to produce it, they'd be seeing a ton of cars coming into dealerships with blown trannies. (basically that it's too much torque for the borg-warner T5 transmission)

2) A Car and Driver article from 1986 regarding the IROC:
"It is backed up by a four-speed automatic transmission, because a manual gearbox hefty enough to handle the engine's torque won't fit."

3) The 350/5 speed combo produced too much NOX emissions on deceleration, even the EGR valve couldn't compensate for it.


The 25 1992 Firehawks came with a ZF-6 6spd tranny weren't cheap to make obviously. I can see why they didn't offer it before.
Explains why the Corvette cost so much more too. They just put the time and $ into making it work.

 

the vette got the 6 speed. thats why.

and show me a link to nissan stating thats why they changed to a different transmission.

 

Manual Transmissions:
84-89 Z31 NA: FS5W71C: Nissan 5spd (medium)
84-86 Z31 Turbo: FS5R90A: Borg Warner T-5 5spd (weakest)
87-89 Z31 Turbo: FS5R30A: Nissan Turbo 5spd (strongest)
* These are the commonly thought of strengths based off many peoples experiences.

http://www.az-zbum.com/information.basic.shtml

I guess that's close, I dunno, just practicing my search skills, heh.

 

if the t5 is too weak for a nissan then the 305's shouldnt even got them. heck if the t5 was junk why dont we put nissan 5speeds behind our 350's?

 

lets face it t5 is junk

thats why i got myself a 6 speed

 

your 6 speed is junk.

 

"I have 300 rwhp and a non WC T5 that I put in with prolly 100,000 miles on the tranny when I installed it. Been on the track once and run it pretty hard everychance I get. It has been in there about 15 months now. No problems at all with it." -rjmcgee

"I ran a stock WC T-5 behind a 380-400 hp LT4 for almost 4 years, drag racing the daylights out of it. Only parts I ever had a problem with was the synchros after my clutch went south and at the very end I bent the 3-4 shift fork right before I replaced it. I ran a best of 12.8 with a 1.9 60' with the T-5, and I shifted it hard, but didn't powershift. I was very impressed with it." -TexasLT1

"I used a WC T-5 behind a 350 with 335 RWHP an 389 lbs of torque for many years 10+ autocrossing and drag racing. When the trans was pulled "after" the "engine" let go it was still in great shape. I think the key to helping them live is making sure the bell housing is indicated in for alignment" -RWB____s


theirs some quick searching i find in the tranny boards about T5's behind some good power numbers.

what I believe is the T5's weakness is just numbers on paper compared to hp and tq numbers.. not much real world fact.

 

thanks trav

 

what did nissan use after 89? cuz isnt that the same year the WC t5's came into action?

 

89 was the last year of the Z31 90 started the Z32 and it used the same FS5R30A but they changed some little things basically the way the shifter connected to the trans

 

ok so basically nissan doesnt need to be mentioned anymore.

 

Alex has a world class and has 300 rwhp and I don't think he has any problems with his.

 

lol typo

It's not jesses tranny I'm worried about, it's his rear. That 7.5 inch ring gear is going to snap like it's nothing with about 600 rwtq in its face, and jess is probably pushing more than that. IF he straps the slicks on. Traction tears these 10 bolts to shreds, a stock M6 LT1 can break them with slicks.

Jesse might get lucky. There have been alot of 10 bolts in the 11s even, cutting 1.6 sixties. Unforunatly they are all, without exception, automatics - the automatics have much less driveline shock than the manuals do. Also unfortunatly no matter how much you shore these things up, it's still the 7.5 inch ring gear that is the real weak linkin these and it still breaks with traction.

I'd suggest pedaling it a little and cutting a 1.8ish 60. I'm hoping to hit 1.79s on mine before I replace it. Your trap speed will show you how fast you are anyway, and from trap speed and 60 and to some extent 330 and 1/8, you'll be able to find out how fast you COULD run.

 

of course there will be some antecdotes of people having good luck with them, stuff happens.

but in REALITY, t-5's are not that strong at all...

I've had my car about 7 months, it was great when I got it (bought it off an old lady) and shifted like new. The motor still runs really strong too, she took really good care of it, and never pushed it at all.

in the 7 months since I've had it though, I've put some new sounds into the gearbox... And it's starting to get a little rough around the edges... still shifts nicely, but I can tell it's getting there. and THIS is with the lil ol' 3.1 behind it.

I'm sure I would have shredded that thing by now with any power in it.

Now, if you ONLY took it to the track, it could probably take a beating for a long time, cause it's not getting many miles on it, just hard abuse. but with numbers exceeding the torque rating that far? i think it's a goner.

 

n/m about going, i'm having the service for my mothers funeral that weekend