10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
simple 2 stage kit on a mid lower 11 second motor will easily go 9's. Or do a straight shot if you can hook it But high 10's n/a isnt all that difficult for a LSx thirdgen. Just needs right cam/intake/heads and it should make 450whp and get near high 10's. 450 on LS1 with heads/cam seems to be the average. ALot of guys doing 470's
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
250 shot on stock pistons diggler? :O that'll last!
i'm kinda with orr89rocz here, cam intake heads, id add a holley 850 (if u can tune em), a good mechanical fuel pump, tires, a good converter & trans, if you go th400 you WILL need a crossmember/ torque arm kit, driveshaft loop, and a way to make it STOP! don't forget the little things like wheel bearings. the rear probably won't last long if you hook hard.you could throw one of those braced covers on it. how many miles on that block? better throw rings & bearings in it. hope you'll be doin all this yourself!
i think if you shop the hell outa ebay, score some "buddy" prices, and plead to the members of the board,,,,,, you might have a chance.
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i'm kinda with orr89rocz here, cam intake heads, id add a holley 850 (if u can tune em), a good mechanical fuel pump, tires, a good converter & trans, if you go th400 you WILL need a crossmember/ torque arm kit, driveshaft loop, and a way to make it STOP! don't forget the little things like wheel bearings. the rear probably won't last long if you hook hard.you could throw one of those braced covers on it. how many miles on that block? better throw rings & bearings in it. hope you'll be doin all this yourself!
i think if you shop the hell outa ebay, score some "buddy" prices, and plead to the members of the board,,,,,, you might have a chance.
reliable is in the eye of the beholder
Eric B
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
My car is running 11.40 @ 123 N/A (still working the bugs out) but I want to get it into the 10's before it spray it.
Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
my car runs in the 11.0's and i hope to be running 9.50's once i take it to the 1/4 track again.
STOCK PISTONS.
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
Humm..... I hadn't thought that far ahead. The motor was built to be a mid 10 second motor (w/ all the other parts working in that direction) So Yeah I kinda want to make sure it will do mid 10's on the motor, (call it a personal goal).
BTW, we're running a TPIS Mini Ram w/ 60lb injectors.
BTW, we're running a TPIS Mini Ram w/ 60lb injectors.
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
bracket car and a one time wonder are completly differant. I dought it could be done if every part was purchased used. Although used parts don't bring much. Good luck on your mission. HELLO EBAY
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
Humm..... I hadn't thought that far ahead. The motor was built to be a mid 10 second motor (w/ all the other parts working in that direction) So Yeah I kinda want to make sure it will do mid 10's on the motor, (call it a personal goal).
BTW, we're running a TPIS Mini Ram w/ 60lb injectors.
BTW, we're running a TPIS Mini Ram w/ 60lb injectors.
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
Bet it's not TPI. I tried pissing with the injection, several years ago. Takes entirely too much time to get the tune right imho. Weather affects it the same as a carburated engine if you're running gas. It's tuff enough to get a carb tunned right.
Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
i am running a single plane converted to FI. its being controlled by a megasquirt DIY kit i assembled myself. tuning-wise, i dont usually have to touch it once its setup on a dyno. the map, iat, coolant temp, and wideband 02 sensors adjust the tune slightly for the different weather.
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
Here's someone that didn't give up, and probably why turbo & drag racing is what it is today
www.moranmotorsports.com/
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
see what I mean..
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Re: 10 Sec 1/4 bracket racer for under $4k.....
You could easily build a sprayed cast iron small block that does 10's, but the problem is your $4,000 is going all into the motor. If you look around enough you can find the bottom end for just over a grand that will support the power you need, you can build a top end that can do 12's on motor, and make up the difference in time with spray.
Or maybe you could do a relatively stock 350 with a nitrous cam and revalve the exhaust ports for like $500, plasma rings for $150, dump the grand into the bottom end and rely on 450+ hp from a $600ish nitrous system. (buy a used carb and intake manifold) I don't doubt for just under 2,500 bucks you can build a motor that is capable of seeing 10 second passes.
Needless to say you would need a beefy transmission and are probably looking at another $500+ for a high stall converter and trans brake. From there you'd need a strong rear end, possibly mini tubs, slicks, a roll cage, a harness, and a fire jacket.
Personally I would never set my budget so low for a 10 second car. I would dump the money into the motor and finish the build next year.
Or maybe you could do a relatively stock 350 with a nitrous cam and revalve the exhaust ports for like $500, plasma rings for $150, dump the grand into the bottom end and rely on 450+ hp from a $600ish nitrous system. (buy a used carb and intake manifold) I don't doubt for just under 2,500 bucks you can build a motor that is capable of seeing 10 second passes.
Needless to say you would need a beefy transmission and are probably looking at another $500+ for a high stall converter and trans brake. From there you'd need a strong rear end, possibly mini tubs, slicks, a roll cage, a harness, and a fire jacket.
Personally I would never set my budget so low for a 10 second car. I would dump the money into the motor and finish the build next year.
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