You could probably just use the twin intake system and BOV from http://www.bbsdesigns.net However, he charges $500, so you would really only be saving $250 minus shipping for the intake.

 

$1000

I edited my post. I forgot to remove our boost tubes as well.

 

Cool, so you could save $500 if you used the bbsdesigns boost tubes and the BOVS.

 

1100hp?? I saw Gale Banks himself on television say depending on which kit you wanted the small one would be 800 hp and the mammy was 1600HP!! I don't see where a manifold would be more of a restriction than the 2 inch hole the turbo necks down to.
I think all of the big tube turbo headers are just show pieces but I gotta say ,just like the first time they came out those kits won't be around long with those unreal prices especially with Vortech and Procharger on the scene now.

 

The HP ratings were for crate engines not the Twin Turbo system. The Twin Turbo system pictured above is the same one that extracted 1100+ HP @ 20 psi.



........

 

Jason (slo4dr) - For the 1100hp crate engine, did the manifolds get port-matched to the head, or were they run "as cast"? Just wondering what voodoo I'll need to do to get close to those hp numbers Also - what kind of intercooler config did you guys use for that run? Keep it coming!

Andris

 

The manifolds were match ported. We purposely cast the holes small on the I/D and made them extremely thick to fit almost any head or port design.

We used a water/air I/C designed by us for the turbo diesels.

How many lbs/min do your compressors flow?

 

Well that's still some major numbers and would be a hella ride!

 

 

I've got a secret........

 

I demand pics ASAP.


It was really good to meet you and the family. I am glad you guys had a fun & safe trip.

 

Jason,

You let it out!!! Let's just say I'm not quite ready to use the 75 pound shipment I'll be getting tomorrow. Heck, I'll be stopping by the machine shop tomorrow to check on my engine status. What I'm planning on doing is to install my engine without your kit, get it running, pass emissions (my registration is four months overdue) and put some miles on the car. At the same time, I'll pick up a "donor" block from the machine shop and mock your kit on it to make sure last minute snags will be kept at a minimum when i finally do install it.

Thanks for the mini-tour of your company. The rest of our vacation was not really relaxing because of our schedule but it was definitely worth it. We're dead tired today.

Willie

 

<----lots of this will be taking place soon.

 

:hail: Willie

I was wondering when someone was going to go for it...

I can't wait to hear how this goes. Please tell me your gonna go where no man has gone before and keep your AC.

 

I sprung for the Vintage Air Frontrunner system which retains the A/C compressor. However, there is no provision for the A.I.R. pump which I must have to register yearly. Up until this year, my IROC-Z was my daily driver but has been relegated to nice days and racing at the track. So, I'm going to remove the A/C and I'll be installing the air pump in the compressor location with fabbed brackets (as necessary). Unless someone can come up with a better way.....???

Willie

 

Emission testing is a bit ch. I have a better way, move. Michigan is a nice state with no testing, but be scared, very scared...it snows here in the winter!

Are you ready to disclose what your plans are for this?? IE. the details of your longblock, what wastegate springs your gonna run, engine management, tranny, rear, ect... To tell you the truth I hope we are going to have two stickies ala Willie in this forum sometime soon.

Keep us posted!

EDIT: Maybe I do have a real idea on how to pull this off, if AC is something you really would like to do. Doesn't that accesory kit have a power steering pump? How strong are your arms??

 

Willie,
Can't you use a 4th gen electric AIR pump, and have it temporarily mounted as needed during inspection?

 

Alright, if your secret includes a motor being blown, then post some pics....

However, if it includes anything else that has to do with physical body parts, don't post those pictures.


Willie, you didn't buy a bank TT kit did you?!?

 

I was about to suggest the same thing...its small, lightweight, and you can put it anywhere.

 

Emission testing is a bit ch. I have a better way, move. Michigan is a nice state with no testing, but be scared, very scared...it snows here in the winter!

I've been in Michigan... Sorry but moving is not an option. I love southern Arizona and choose to live here.


Are you ready to disclose what your plans are for this?? IE. the details of your longblock, what wastegate springs your gonna run, engine management, tranny, rear, ect...

My plans are simple. Replace the supercharger with the turbos. My 305 is already built for serious boost as well as my tranny, so this is not an issue. My weak link is my rear axle as it always has been.


To tell you the truth I hope we are going to have two stickies ala Willie in this forum sometime soon.

Probably so as details become available. I just received the kit today (10-01-04) but not in my plans for installation for another couple of months.


Keep us posted!

Absolutely!


....Doesn't that accesory kit have a power steering pump?

Yep and I'm keeping it.


Can't you use a 4th gen electric AIR pump, and have it temporarily mounted as needed during inspection?

Andris, I didn't know 4th gens use an electric AIR pump. Thanks!! You've just allowed me to retain my A/C!!


Alright, if your secret includes a motor being blown, then post some pics....

I can't help but wonder how much power this system will make in comparison to the near 30 pounds of boost my F1 can make (but never tested) BUT what my engine is built to handle....


However, if it includes anything else that has to do with physical body parts, don't post those pictures.

That goes without saying....


Willie, you didn't buy a bank TT kit did you?!?




I was about to suggest the same thing...its small, lightweight, and you can put it anywhere.

Thanks LT1 Guy. I just didn't know about it.

Willie

 

It's not just fourth gens that have electric air pumps, but a lot of newer cars, including mustangs, S10 trucks, b-bodies...

 

Could these new electronic AIR pumps be used on the older cars? I would imagine the installlation could be straighforward. You would just need a 12V power source to the pump right? Kinda like when you switch over to an electric water pump?

 

All you guys want to see pics. Not me, Willie, if you need a hand, let me know. That's the good thing about living 5 miles from Willie, I can see it in person. Anyways, like I said Willie, if you need a hand, let me know. I'd be glad to help.

 

Eric,

I appreciate your offer. Give me a call sometime. I'm sorry you had to find out about my plans this way instead of in person. I really had no intentions of telling anyone but when I read Jason's replies (from Banks) here, I couldn't resist. I'd been talking with him for over one month prior to and already had the kit ordered. BTW, if you'd like to see it, stop by anytime. I received it on 9-24. Sorry you had to find out about my plans here and not in person....

Willie

 

Right on, maybe I'll stop by this weekend. We'll have to see what happens.

 

I cant believe the Vintage Air system is $1600. I want to retain my A/C when I eventually do the swap, but I dunno about $1600. At that price I'm leaning towards ditching the A/C alltogether. I got the manifolds and 2 downpipes from another member of this website for a relatively cheap price (compared to the banks prices, I know DIY is the ultimate cheap). I was planning to have a local exhaust shop do the piping for the IC and intake inlet. But I'm not even gonna start this project until I can successfully tune the 749 ECM to work with the supercharger currently in the car. I move slow so it will probably be mid 2005 before I start a turbo swap.

 

March just introduced an accessory drive kit that mounts the A/C compressor and alternator inward and downward just like the Vintage Air kit. It's priced around $1800 (or more) so I know the Vintage Air kit is priced "within reason".

The interesting fact about the Vintage Air kit is this: I went to a local distributor for this company and was quoted a priced of $1057 BUT this does not include the A/C compressor nor the alternator. I then called Vintage Air and asked if I could order the kit without these two components. I was told, "No." Interesting..... So I ordered it through the local distributor and got it for $1057. The problem (so far) is that Vintage Air does not make an idler to replace the compressor. No big deal, I thought because I must run the AIR pump and this kit does not have a provision for it. My plan was to fab brackets as necessary to mount the AIR pump in the same location as the compressor. Deleting the A/C was a choice I had to make because of the fact that I must run the AIR pump. Since I made this decision, I was informed (see above) that several electric air pumps are available, so I've changed my plans to retain the A/C. Now, I'll have to purchase a Sandin (sp?) compressor that Vintage Air sells.

Vintage Air also told me that I would have to purchase a 140-amp one-wire GM alternator. I'm not convinced of this yet as their pics appear to show a CS130 alternator. I also do not want to use a one-wire. In any case, I should know the answer to this when I mock the setup on a spare block.

Willie

 

just thought i would post a picture of my gta back in the early 90's. (before i bought it) it had a banks tt kit on it.
the kit was sold, and im wondering if crazyhawaiian might have the manifolds? last i heard they were sold to someone in hawaii.
anyways...

 

aaand, here's the car today. diy turbo kit in progress.
i know, i know, the exhaust housings arent going to stay. lol

 

huh... I'm curious, which way do you plan on routing the down pipe(s)?

 

90 bend out of the turbo, then straight down. will most likely have some kinda muffler then dump in front of each front tire probably.

the compressor housing will be rotated a different way from how it is in the picture, also. (notice its held on with vise grips right now lol) i just sorta put it on there to mock up how its gonna be.

 

looks like he has a PA Racing tubular K member they give any turbo enthusiast a bunch more options and space to work with.

 

I got em from 89prochargedroc. Nice pics of your new setup!!

 

neat!! you have the manifolds then!!

thanks for the compliments, also