Okay, I did some research for you guys. I will be calling my sales rep from Banks tomorrow and get the scoop. Seems like Banks really WILL be getting back in to gasoline turbo performance. They will be debuting a 200mph 1968 Camaro and a Mercedes SL500 Pro Mod car this year to announce their arrival. I will find out if the turbo manifolds will be offered, or if a kit will be available and let you know. When I get pricing, I will post the figure. You WILL be able to order through me when they offer products. Here is a link to their announcement page. The picture is the old carbureted turbo kit from 1982:
http://www.bankspower.com/HighPerformance.cfm


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1989 T/A, 400" CNC Bow-Tie tall-deck, JE 8.5:1 pistons, Scat H-beam 6" rods, Scat 4340 crank, Crower roller cam, AFR heads, Tiffin Racing sheetmetal intake, Holley 75mm t/b, DFI, variable injector controller, 72# inj., S/X dual-pump fuel system, Hahn Racecraft T76 single turbosystem, NOS 150-hp dry fogger, TH400 w/GV overdrive, Dana 44 w/Detroit Locker and 3.70's, Baer Track brakes, Simmons FR 18X9 and 18X10 wheels, P265 and P285/35ZR18 Nittos, Spohn suspension, Eibach racing springs w/adjustable-height collars, billet camber/caster plates, KYB AGX adjustable shocks/struts, Corbeau Targa RS seats, TeamTech 5-point harnesses, Sparco steering wheel, MacEwen white gauge overlays, Phantom gauges/tach, B&M Pro Stick w/carbon-fiber ****, REAL carbon-fiber dash/console kit (don't ask), S&W 8-point rollbar, Lonza aluminum pedal covers, Pioneer/Boston Acoustics stereo system, filled side markers, Audi fender marker lights, IMSA-style cowl hood (don't ask), custom medium Intense Blue pearl paint, tinted glass. Whew!

Best ET w/383" S-trim: 10.796 @ 125.8 mph
Best ET w/400" turbo, nitrous: Summer 2001

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

 

Thanks, I'll look forward to hearing what you learn.

 

Hot Damn,

As I live and breathe they will finally bring it back. I can't wait. You put me down to buy one for sure. Any time frame on when those other cars will debut?

Vertigo

 

Ewwww... No Intercooler?

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Mike
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.25@121.25
Daily Driver

1998 Trans-Am LS1 6 Speed
13.10@106
Slow POS sitting in the Driveway awaiting repairs and then its For Sale. No More V8 Cars for me.

 

No intercooler was needed. With 10.0:1 compression and only 8-10psi, the intercooler only caused boost pressure loss. The original carbureted 1983 T/A ran over 200mph with that setup...

I spoke to my rep today. He is emailing me photos of the system. They have manifolds and plenums being cast now. Manifolds are an improved design over the old log manifolds. They will be selling complete systems as well as complete engines. Both carbed and EFI. More to come...

 

Oh boy!!

 

I bought a few older CAR CRAFT mags at a swap meet recently, and there is an early 80's issue with a feature article on the Gale Banks twin turbo 406ci TA. If I remember right, they said it was capable of almost 250 mph. I believe the system was capable of pumping almost 32 pounds of boost, but it was nearly impossible to drive at that power level.

 

shiner16

Do you have any scans of that magazine? I've been doing the exact same thing. I haven't seen that one that you're talking about. If you do have scan can you post them or mail them to me?

GMI FAST:
I hope you will be posting those photos

Vertigo

 

GMIFast:
Will any of this stuff be eventually E.O approved? And when you say EFI compatible, will this include the stock TPI system.

Dave '91 GTA, '91 T/A

 

GMI,

Two more questions for Banks, how much HP are they rating these systems for & when are they are going to be available for public consumption?



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Bobalos
aka Bob W.
www.r71camaro.homestead.com
r71chevy@earthlink.net
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Not allowed to post the pics yet, but they are a nice wallpaper on my office computer! Horsepower figures will vary depending on state of engine build, as well as boost level used. The turbos in the photos should support up to 600-700 horsepower. The EFI used in the photos appears to be a Holley carb-style manifold with a 1000cfm billet throttle body. No factory TPI stuff. They may be releasing the system in late July. They are having 50 manifolds and pressure plenums being cast right now. I will have a set in my hands by the end of June. I will keep you posted. Funny part is, the marketing director owns a Dodge Neon, and wants to trade me for one of our Neon Turbosystems. Hmmmmm...maybe I need to switch to twin turbos.

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30 psi + Nitrous Club

 

Well, Banks gave me some pictures today and I'm not a distributor so I'll post them

 

Vertigo: Sorry for taking so long, I haven't checked this thread since I last posted. Yes, I do have a scanner, and I will try to send you some page scans. Email me if your're still interested. Address is in the signature.

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'86 Camaro base coupe, awaiting the 355:
.030 over, studded 2 bolt main, #487 casting heads w/2.02/1.60 valves, Crane Energizer cam, Performer intake, Edelbrock 750 carb.

dtuominen@hotmail.com

Low-Budget and proud of it!

 

still use rayjay's?
intercooler?

If you were looking to make a LOT of power it looks like there would be a lot of upgrading to do. Bigger turbos, wastegate, intercooler.

Still, this looks pretty wicked!!

 

And here I am asking you about turbo manifolds on the MFBA and you post this here Dan I'm ordering this kit as soon as it becomes available...

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1990 GTA
-355 carb'd, Richmond 4.10, Auburn posi, Eibach Pro-kit, Koni adjustables all around, Alston SFC's
-150 nitrous shot
-Leather!
-Stereo details coming soon

 

Count me in on that for sure too. That system looks too sweet for words.

Any cost ideas GMI? Also how much would you charge for the installation of the system?

Vertigo

 

No pricing yet. I will keep you posted...

 

Hahn Racecraft doesn't do installs anymore.

 

Just to be totally off the subject, with that kind of power, what could you possibly use as a trans?

 

You're into a custom build on an auto tranny. I'm using a Tremec TKO 5-speed manual with my supercharged big block. As long as you're on street tires all you need is a fairly stout tranny... nothing exotic. Reducing vehicle weight helps a lot too.

 

Any ideas on whether or not you can have a/c with these? Or should I just pretty much give up on that idea? Also I've been doing some reading of the thread on this topic and what would be a good plan for an auto tranny or should I switch to a manual for this? Sorry for all the questions but still a newbie to alot of this stuff.

Vertigo

 

Any ideas on whether or not you can have a/c with these? Or should I just pretty much give up on that idea? Also I've been doing some reading of the thread on this topic and what would be a good plan for an auto tranny or should I switch to a manual for this? Sorry for all the questions but still a newbie to alot of this stuff.

Vertigo

 

Vertigo: If you can find room for the AC, and can find a way to mount the compressor and run a belt, then yeah, you can run an AC. Honestly, I don't think there is room for a 350 with turbos AND still have factory options... matter of fact, I don't think there will be room for a 350 and turbo's period... going to have to get crafty there... As for tranny, auto's are stronger and simpler, read up a little further on this post and read what someone said about what tranny they are running.

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1985 Camaro SC - 2.8L, auto.

Mods:
Removed air baffles, mandrel bent cat-back pipes (but stock replacment muffler, Dynomax Turbo and Catco converter are on thier way)

 

I dont know, maybe. from looking @ those pictures I am wondering if you re-clocked the turbos so that they cam outboard & went to the IC that you might be able to make a new bracket for the AC & still keep it. I say go for the power & see if the AC is gonna play, later.

BW

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Bobalos
aka Bob W.
www.r71camaro.homestead.com
r71chevy@earthlink.net
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This is a picture of the engine before installation in a 1982 Trans Am. That should answer the a/c question...

 

i'll buy one of those bad boys for my iroc! ;D

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89 iroc 5.7 can't go fast enough. 14.1

 

Now thats what im talkin about . Cake & Ice Cream all in the same sitting, Yea baby.

BW

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Bobalos
aka Bob W.
www.r71camaro.homestead.com
r71chevy@earthlink.net
<><

 

How do they get the exhaust past the heater box? On my '88 there is maybe 1/2" of clearance between the drivers side header and the heater box for the exhaust to exit the drivers side turbo.

 

Looks to me like they put a 90 degree elbow right out of the turbo for a downpipe. Then, they could route it down where the stock manifolds exit and take it like a normal exhaust. Doesnt look like it would be a problem to me.

 

Guido,
Do you have a/c on your car?

 

No I got rid of it long ago.

 

Any new news on this?

Vertigo

 

Nope. I'll post updates when I get 'em.

 

That looks awesome! That would make my 305 TBI something to look at. I like my baby V8. Would this system work on it possibly, or would it involve a whole lot of custom fab work? If it's not bad, I may be in on this too. Any ideas on a group purchase?

 

when and and how much?

 

I agree... when and how much... but dammit I want my AC

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91 Z28
Best Time Slip:
60' - 2.098
1/8 - 9.137 , MPH - 76.21
1/4 - 14.213, MPH - 97.55

Mods: SLP Exhaust, umm...nothing else..sorry

Stereo: Alpine 855, Infinity Kappas all around, Infinity 150x2 amp (POS), Infinity Perfect 10 in hatch.

Webpage coming soon.

 

where there's a will, there's AC.

BW

 

You mean where there is a wuss..there is AC

Don't get me wrong, AC is cool and all (pun intended)..but complaining about a bolt in twin turbo kit because you have to lose the AC is ludicrous.

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"American made baby. 100% American iron. The muscle among the masses. My hero. Yep, you can take your ergonomically designed, space age, computer controlled, 4 door, cup holding map lighted split double wishbone split fold down retractable cargo covered moon roof piece of transportation and keep it. For I have felt the thunder. And I know the difference!"
JSP Motorsports
ICON Motorsports

 

Look at that picture again. You're looking at an a/c compressor.

 

I get you Jester, but he does not HAVE to lose the AC, it is just a matter of how important is it to him. It only cost's money. if AC is that important, drop the cash & eat Mac & Cheez for a month. If not, get on with life, wail on the car & dont sweat it (pun intended).

BW

 

I wonder if there will be a group purchase on this? This thread seems to have generated quite alot of interest. Hopefully Banks will see this and give us some info soon. Also here's an off the wall questions. Will these new kits be emissions legal?

Has anyone ever seen any of the old ones in action at the track? Are there any other pics of either the new engine or the old one?

One last stray thought I just remembered.

I called my rep last week about this and he still says he knows nothing about it. Also said he wont believe it until he sees it on the shelf ready to be shipped.

Vertigo

 

From what I understand he created a TT kit that looked like this kit does now and could not sell it because it didn't become emission legal so I am sure this kit will be legal..

 

Here's a way to make more space. This is the kind of thing "you only hear about." I believe Jester of the SFFBC (South Florida F-body Club) has set this up if not its another member. Ok here it is get this, he mounted his radiator infront of the hood latch and the crossmenber just behind that. I'm not sure if that will do it, but it will give you more space.

 

I would love to keep my tpi and ac is that asking too much??? lol

 

You can always fabricate a system yourself. Hardest part IMO with turbos is making some heavy duty headers that stand up to the abuse. That plenium looks mean though.

Honestly I'd bet it's not emissions legal.

 

Same Jester dude


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"American made baby. 100% American iron. The muscle among the masses. My hero. Yep, you can take your ergonomically designed, space age, computer controlled, 4 door, cup holding map lighted split double wishbone split fold down retractable cargo covered moon roof piece of transportation and keep it. For I have felt the thunder. And I know the difference!"
JSP Motorsports
ICON Motorsports

 

any recent updates? and any idea on price?

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91 Z28
Best Time Slip:
60' - 2.098
1/8 - 9.137 , MPH - 76.21
1/4 - 14.213, MPH - 97.55

Mods: SLP Exhaust, umm...nothing else..sorry

Stereo: Alpine 855, Infinity Kappas all around, Infinity 150x2 amp (POS), Infinity Perfect 10 in hatch.

Webpage coming soon.

 

this is like that joke but with a new twist how do you keep a speed freak in suspense lol

 

No news yet. I will post new info when Banks contacts me. Promise!

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1989 Trans Am
GM tall deck Bow-Tie block
TH400 w/transbrake
Hahn Racecraft turbosystem
NOS dry-fogger kit
Gunnin' for 8's

1994 Toyota Supra Turbo
6-speed, sportroof
11-second daily driver

1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
5.2L V8, loaded
K&N Filtercharger kit w/cold air intake
Flowmaster cat-back
Pioneer/Polk Audio CD system
FOR SALE!

Member of Midwest F-Body Association www.mfba.org

 

ttt

keeping it new for newcomers / updaters

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91 Z28
Best Time Slip:
60' - 2.098
1/8 - 9.137 , MPH - 76.21
1/4 - 14.213, MPH - 97.55

Mods: SLP Exhaust, umm...nothing else..sorry

Stereo: Alpine 855, Infinity Kappas all around, Infinity 150x2 amp (POS), Infinity Perfect 10 in hatch.

Webpage coming soon.
ICQ: 1437212
AOL: normalmatt9