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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ

Right now Hellion Power Systems has a poll on there home page titled "what should hellion's next kit be?" Among the various choices is a bullet for the 3rd gen f-body. Now I know that I don't have to tell you all what this would mean for us as f-body enthusiast; but in case you didn’t already know, there is no other current "over the counter" turbo kit being produced to fit our 3rd gens. Further, for all of those 4th gener's, who knows? Maybe your vote wins the poll for your 3rd gen brethren. Then what? Maybe hellion sees the light @ the end of the tunnel and decides to produce a kit for 4th gens as well.

This is a great opportunity that should be capitalized upon. PLEASE follow the link below and cast your vote! And feel free to post this tread in other forums. Tell everyone you know!

http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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voted. but the c6 gen2 lighting is WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY ahead of everything else. We are gonna have to rally!
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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just voted this would be a nice thing to have.
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My vote made it 2.9%. Not a chance in hel. I helped.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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dang people cmon lets get this thing going!!! ive been looking for something like this lol were so far away but so close!
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Irocz28NCHS
dang people cmon lets get this thing going!!! ive been looking for something like this lol were so far away but so close!
what did your one vote make it? 3%?
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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sweet. im voting 12 times lol diff locations
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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what did your one vote make it? 3%?
if it did so what right?
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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now 3.1%, need about 1,500 votes to pass the gen2 lightning...shouldn't be hard considering we have a large following on here
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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if it did so what right?
Lmao. Just tryin to keep up. This is fun. Ill vote when I go the the computer lab at school tomorrow. Its the last week of this phaze, & I wont have anything to do anyway. Ill get us at least 12 more votes. Wonder if I can vote on my phone too. Ill try.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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i still have 3 more computers to vote on too and then i can go everywhere else possible. lol its possible
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Voted with the cell phone. We are still at 3.1%
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Voted. The gen 2 lightning is waaay ahead, d*@# fords.
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keep voting! shouldn't have a problem getting votes if the tgo community rallies, maybe post in tech/general engine? don't think a lot of folk hang out in power adder forum

[edit] they've gotten some two thousand votes in forty days. we should be able to beat that!
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I posted the link on Team Camaro.
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Originally Posted by el_muerte
keep voting! shouldn't have a problem getting votes if the tgo community rallies, maybe post in tech/general engine? don't think a lot of folk hang out in power adder forum

[edit] they've gotten some two thousand votes in forty days. we should be able to beat that!
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3.6% now. It's slow but we are moving up.
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A lot of people "want" an off-the-shelf 3rd gen kit. Then they see the $4,000 and up price tag and change their mind. That is why no one sells a kit for it. Besides, having a custom system is more appropriate for most builds because the setup is designed toward the engine.

Targeting a stock C6 or something like that makes more sense. Making a system for a stock C6 (which most people have) will yield the best bang for the buck. The C6 guys are more likely to have and spend the money for a kit.

Not trying to offend you guys, just giving you why no one makes a kit for the 3rd. This has been discussed and tried before.
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Originally Posted by Pierced_Zombie
sweet. im voting 12 times lol diff locations
yeah i'm going to try and vote multiple times as well. Thanks for the support guys! I'm glad this thing is getting going!
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You can vote multiple times from the same computer if you erase your cookies each time.
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5.6 now
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Rally!!
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6.4%... voottteee!
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7.3%... slowly but surely!!
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got about 20 votes in.
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Voted. 7.4% 4th overall

C'mon guys! Everyone here should vote in this, regardless if you are into turbo power or not.
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A lot of people "want" an off-the-shelf 3rd gen kit. Then they see the $4,000 and up price tag and change their mind. That is why no one sells a kit for it.
Same old story. Everybody wanted a notchback replica, as well as a Japanese hood for their third gens, then when they start getting made they're suddenly too pricey for everyone. Most of the time people simply want these ideas to become a reality, just to say that they're available for their rides, but how many will literally be willing to spend more on the Hellion setup alone than they did on the car itself. BBS still makes a sweet turbo header setup, and I'm sure it will cost much less when all is said and done....
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Same old story. Everybody wanted a notchback replica, as well as a Japanese hood for their third gens, then when they start getting made they're suddenly too pricey for everyone. Most of the time people simply want these ideas to become a reality, just to say that they're available for their rides, but how many will literally be willing to spend more on the Hellion setup alone than they did on the car itself. BBS still makes a sweet turbo header setup, and I'm sure it will cost much less when all is said and done....
The notchback replica looks NOTHING like the factory version.

Last I checked, the Japanese hood is NOT available stateside (yet) and the company in Japan making them are unreceptive at best to dealing with outsiders.

You also mention the BBS kit. You realize that for the money, you only ONE header not a pair. You still have to buy another set of regular headers (shorty-style IIRC) to cannibalize for the other side of the engine. here comes the math:

For the sake of argument,

BBS = ~$500 + $750 to 1000 for a set of shorties

=$1250 to $1500 total just for hotparts. Hotparts that are only good for 500hp at best.

Locally, I can get the local speedshop to make a set of tubular turbo manifolds in stainless steel for the same price which will support more than double the hp as previously mentioned. Also keep in mind that this is based on "guy-off-the-street-with-no-connections" Canadian prices. I am positive that the american prices would be far more reasonable.

It bugs me when ppl on here get up on there soapbox on the corner of **** and moan, carrying on about how expensive every little speedpart is. So then they find the cheapest chinese knock-off from e-gay, and get ripped off once or perhaps numerous times, when it could have been far more economical to just do it right the first time. If you want a cheap hobby, cars AREN'T for you. IF you can't afford to do it right the first time, do you have the money for every other consecutive time? NO ONE will take Third-gens seriously when their owners take this "Stroker McGurk"- approach or act as if they were born in a trailer park toilet.

Back on topic, Even if Hellion just sold the hotside plumbing (T4 or T6) w/o turbo and built it to support a good amount of HP (more than BBS) then they would be on to something.

Hellion is also a bigger company with diverse product lines. They have MORE than enough ford guys to buy their stuff than xyz company that caters to just third gen f-bodys.

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<----- Got my vote and it made it....drum rolls..... 8.3%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



annd im about to vote again on my BB storm.
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Voted still at 8.3 come on guys get to clicking
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The notchback replica looks NOTHING like the factory version....
Looks "nothing" like the factory notchback? Do you have a vision disorder....?

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Originally Posted by RoadHammer
Last I checked, the Japanese hood is NOT available stateside (yet) and the company in Japan making them are unreceptive at best to dealing with outsiders....
You are misinformed, a similar version of the "Japanese" hood was going to be manufactured here in the states, but when members who initially supported the idea heard it would cost up to $1000.00 each for a group purchase, everybody started backing out. Try again....

Originally Posted by RoadHammer
You also mention the BBS kit. You realize that for the money, you only ONE header not a pair. You still have to buy another set of regular headers (shorty-style IIRC) to cannibalize for the other side of the engine. here comes the math....
You have no idea what you are talking about, and are greatly misinformed. Bermudez already quoted me, and many others, thirteen hundred ($1300.00 in case you have dyslexia) for the entire set; the passenger turbo header, the drivers side shorty header, the crossover, and the downpipe. There are T67's, T76's and even T88's selling for less than $500 on ebay that are PROVEN, there are wastegates selling on ebay for $150.00 that are PROVEN, there are Intercooler's selling on ebay for $150.00 that are PROVEN, there are COMPLETE Megasquirt ECM setups that sell for $500.00 that are PROVEN, and will control any amount of boost that you can throw at it. Hmm, what's left? Okay, then there is intake tubing, couplers, clamps and blow off valve, which can be had for less than another $100.00. What is that so far, hmm, let's see; 1300+500+150+150+500+100= $2700....

Originally Posted by RoadHammer
For the sake of argument....
.... you have none, your completely full of it!

Originally Posted by RoadHammer
Hotparts that are only good for 500hp at best....
I believe Justin (TurboedTPI) made 600-RWHP at only 15-psi, who's been running that setup for years.

Originally Posted by RoadHammer
Locally, I can get the local speedshop to make a set of tubular turbo manifolds in stainless steel for the same price which will support more than double the hp as previously mentioned....
LMMFAO, who the hell cares what you can get for locally? This is about cost justification of a Hellion setup, which you clearly cannot justify, no matter how hard you try to twist and turn your argument. The Hellion is a complete waste of time and money, and anyone could build a better setup for much less. If you have a problem with BBS, well than that is your problem, but the fact remains that its a cheaper option than the Hellion and always will be....

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Voted it is at 8.5% with 336 votes .
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Cast my vote for the 3rd gen.
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I VOTED 3RD GEN.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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im voting a bunch of times. you dont need to vote from different computers. all of mine are registering
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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9%!!
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i did my part, got it up to 10.7%--about 100 more votes from me.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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last i checked, 10.8% including my vote
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11% and we're in front of the 94-95 mustang now
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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i voted again 3rd time. 11.1% now! now gen 2 lightening, dont those already come s/c? why would they care about a turbo kit?
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Originally Posted by samiam91RS
i voted again 3rd time. 11.1% now! now gen 2 lightening, dont those already come s/c? why would they care about a turbo kit?

they do both at the same time. look at the new gt500 kit they have.
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come on, we're @ 12.4%

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turbos are for school buses...still voted tho
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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come on, we're up to 16.1%, 490 away from, tieing up with the C6 vette!
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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LOL! OMG how did it skyrocket to 70+ percent?

wow dude, but do you honestly think they will STILL come out with a kit?

hell if they did, id deff buy one and put it on my stock 350tpi. instead of doing a stroker like i wanted to.

so who put in all those votes?!?!?!
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 (for now)
Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ

If that is not enough then I don't know what it will take!

What Should Hellion's Next Kit Be?
3rd Gen. F-Body
17063 73.3%
Gen 2 Lightning
1706 7.3%
C5 Corvette
1402 6%
C6 Corvette
1241 5.3%
2010 Camaro
794 3.4%
2009+ Challenger
621 2.7%
94-95 Mustang
460 2%

Number of Voters : 23287
First Vote : Sunday, 05 April 2009 22:38
Last Vote : Friday, 26 June 2009 01:44
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:14 PM
  #47  
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Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,545
Likes: 10
From: South Carolina
Car: 85 2M6, 87 'Bird 88 'burb
Engine: LX9, LG4, L05
Transmission: F23, 700r4, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.63, 2.73, 4.10
Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ

WOW! thats 10 times the votes the lightning had!

someone had too much time on their hands!


16000++ votes in 6 hours, that had to be more than one person!
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:11 PM
  #48  
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Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 503
Likes: 1
From: Des Moines, IA
Car: 90 Formula WS6, 86 Sport Coupe
Engine: 305 TBI, 2.8 MPFI
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4w/vette servos
Axle/Gears: 2.73 Open, 3.42 Open
Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ

I'd pay 5k for turbo system built to fit an f-body.......... if I ever have 5k to spend. Don't know how the votes got that high but whatever

BTW, blinkn your avatar is freakin awesome
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:31 PM
  #49  
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From: SC
Car: 1991 Firebird Formula
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: T5
Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ

Originally Posted by novafirebirdguy
I'd pay 5k for turbo system built to fit an f-body.......... if I ever have 5k to spend. Don't know how the votes got that high but whatever

BTW, blinkn your avatar is freakin awesome
holly hell!! lmao, don't know how that happened... but i knew we could do it lol!

& thanks novafirebirdguy!

Last edited by blinkn; Jun 25, 2009 at 10:34 PM.
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:57 PM
  #50  
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Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 353
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From: Greenwood SC
Car: 86' Z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 (for now)
Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ

Man that was kinda crazy looks like ownage to me lol
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