URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
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URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
Right now Hellion Power Systems has a poll on there home page titled "what should hellion's next kit be?" Among the various choices is a bullet for the 3rd gen f-body. Now I know that I don't have to tell you all what this would mean for us as f-body enthusiast; but in case you didn’t already know, there is no other current "over the counter" turbo kit being produced to fit our 3rd gens. Further, for all of those 4th gener's, who knows? Maybe your vote wins the poll for your 3rd gen brethren. Then what? Maybe hellion sees the light @ the end of the tunnel and decides to produce a kit for 4th gens as well.
This is a great opportunity that should be capitalized upon. PLEASE follow the link below and cast your vote! And feel free to post this tread in other forums. Tell everyone you know!
http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/
This is a great opportunity that should be capitalized upon. PLEASE follow the link below and cast your vote! And feel free to post this tread in other forums. Tell everyone you know!
http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/
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Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
voted. but the c6 gen2 lighting is WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY ahead of everything else. We are gonna have to rally!
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Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
dang people cmon lets get this thing going!!! ive been looking for something like this lol were so far away but so close!
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Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
now 3.1%, need about 1,500 votes to pass the gen2 lightning...shouldn't be hard considering we have a large following on here
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Lmao. Just tryin to keep up. This is fun. Ill vote when I go the the computer lab at school tomorrow. Its the last week of this phaze, & I wont have anything to do anyway. Ill get us at least 12 more votes. Wonder if I can vote on my phone too. Ill try.
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i still have 3 more computers to vote on too and then i can go everywhere else possible. lol its possible
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Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
keep voting! shouldn't have a problem getting votes if the tgo community rallies, maybe post in tech/general engine? don't think a lot of folk hang out in power adder forum
[edit] they've gotten some two thousand votes in forty days. we should be able to beat that!
[edit] they've gotten some two thousand votes in forty days. we should be able to beat that!
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A lot of people "want" an off-the-shelf 3rd gen kit. Then they see the $4,000 and up price tag and change their mind. That is why no one sells a kit for it. Besides, having a custom system is more appropriate for most builds because the setup is designed toward the engine.
Targeting a stock C6 or something like that makes more sense. Making a system for a stock C6 (which most people have) will yield the best bang for the buck. The C6 guys are more likely to have and spend the money for a kit.
Not trying to offend you guys, just giving you why no one makes a kit for the 3rd. This has been discussed and tried before.
Targeting a stock C6 or something like that makes more sense. Making a system for a stock C6 (which most people have) will yield the best bang for the buck. The C6 guys are more likely to have and spend the money for a kit.
Not trying to offend you guys, just giving you why no one makes a kit for the 3rd. This has been discussed and tried before.
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Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
You can vote multiple times from the same computer if you erase your cookies each time.
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Voted. 7.4% 4th overall
C'mon guys! Everyone here should vote in this, regardless if you are into turbo power or not.
C'mon guys! Everyone here should vote in this, regardless if you are into turbo power or not.
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Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
Originally Posted by junkcltr
A lot of people "want" an off-the-shelf 3rd gen kit. Then they see the $4,000 and up price tag and change their mind. That is why no one sells a kit for it.
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Same old story. Everybody wanted a notchback replica, as well as a Japanese hood for their third gens, then when they start getting made they're suddenly too pricey for everyone. Most of the time people simply want these ideas to become a reality, just to say that they're available for their rides, but how many will literally be willing to spend more on the Hellion setup alone than they did on the car itself. BBS still makes a sweet turbo header setup, and I'm sure it will cost much less when all is said and done....
Last I checked, the Japanese hood is NOT available stateside (yet) and the company in Japan making them are unreceptive at best to dealing with outsiders.
You also mention the BBS kit. You realize that for the money, you only ONE header not a pair. You still have to buy another set of regular headers (shorty-style IIRC) to cannibalize for the other side of the engine. here comes the math:
For the sake of argument,
BBS = ~$500 + $750 to 1000 for a set of shorties
=$1250 to $1500 total just for hotparts. Hotparts that are only good for 500hp at best.
Locally, I can get the local speedshop to make a set of tubular turbo manifolds in stainless steel for the same price which will support more than double the hp as previously mentioned. Also keep in mind that this is based on "guy-off-the-street-with-no-connections" Canadian prices. I am positive that the american prices would be far more reasonable.
It bugs me when ppl on here get up on there soapbox on the corner of **** and moan, carrying on about how expensive every little speedpart is. So then they find the cheapest chinese knock-off from e-gay, and get ripped off once or perhaps numerous times, when it could have been far more economical to just do it right the first time. If you want a cheap hobby, cars AREN'T for you. IF you can't afford to do it right the first time, do you have the money for every other consecutive time? NO ONE will take Third-gens seriously when their owners take this "Stroker McGurk"- approach or act as if they were born in a trailer park toilet.
Back on topic, Even if Hellion just sold the hotside plumbing (T4 or T6) w/o turbo and built it to support a good amount of HP (more than BBS) then they would be on to something.
Hellion is also a bigger company with diverse product lines. They have MORE than enough ford guys to buy their stuff than xyz company that caters to just third gen f-bodys.
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<----- Got my vote and it made it....drum rolls..... 8.3%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

annd im about to vote again on my BB storm.

annd im about to vote again on my BB storm.
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Re: URGENT EVERYONE PLEASE READ
Originally Posted by RoadHammer
The notchback replica looks NOTHING like the factory version....
Factory VS Hawks


Originally Posted by RoadHammer
Last I checked, the Japanese hood is NOT available stateside (yet) and the company in Japan making them are unreceptive at best to dealing with outsiders....
Originally Posted by RoadHammer
You also mention the BBS kit. You realize that for the money, you only ONE header not a pair. You still have to buy another set of regular headers (shorty-style IIRC) to cannibalize for the other side of the engine. here comes the math....

Originally Posted by RoadHammer
For the sake of argument....

Originally Posted by RoadHammer
Hotparts that are only good for 500hp at best....

Originally Posted by RoadHammer
Locally, I can get the local speedshop to make a set of tubular turbo manifolds in stainless steel for the same price which will support more than double the hp as previously mentioned....
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im voting a bunch of times. you dont need to vote from different computers. all of mine are registering
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i voted again 3rd time. 11.1% now! now gen 2 lightening, dont those already come s/c? why would they care about a turbo kit?
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come on, we're @ 12.4%
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come on, we're up to 16.1%, 490 away from, tieing up with the C6 vette!
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LOL! OMG how did it skyrocket to 70+ percent?
wow dude, but do you honestly think they will STILL come out with a kit?
hell if they did, id deff buy one and put it on my stock 350tpi. instead of doing a stroker like i wanted to.
so who put in all those votes?!?!?!
wow dude, but do you honestly think they will STILL come out with a kit?
hell if they did, id deff buy one and put it on my stock 350tpi. instead of doing a stroker like i wanted to.
so who put in all those votes?!?!?!
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If that is not enough then I don't know what it will take!
What Should Hellion's Next Kit Be?
3rd Gen. F-Body
17063 73.3%
Gen 2 Lightning
1706 7.3%
C5 Corvette
1402 6%
C6 Corvette
1241 5.3%
2010 Camaro
794 3.4%
2009+ Challenger
621 2.7%
94-95 Mustang
460 2%
Number of Voters : 23287
First Vote : Sunday, 05 April 2009 22:38
Last Vote : Friday, 26 June 2009 01:44
What Should Hellion's Next Kit Be?
3rd Gen. F-Body
17063 73.3%
Gen 2 Lightning
1706 7.3%
C5 Corvette
1402 6%
C6 Corvette
1241 5.3%
2010 Camaro
794 3.4%
2009+ Challenger
621 2.7%
94-95 Mustang
460 2%
Number of Voters : 23287
First Vote : Sunday, 05 April 2009 22:38
Last Vote : Friday, 26 June 2009 01:44
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WOW! thats 10 times the votes the lightning had!
someone had too much time on their hands!

16000++ votes in 6 hours, that had to be more than one person!
someone had too much time on their hands!

16000++ votes in 6 hours, that had to be more than one person!
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I'd pay 5k for turbo system built to fit an f-body.......... if I ever have 5k to spend. Don't know how the votes got that high but whatever
BTW, blinkn your avatar is freakin awesome

BTW, blinkn your avatar is freakin awesome
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& thanks novafirebirdguy!
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this would be a nice thing to have.


