Blowers, compression and the AFR site
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Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
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Blowers, compression and the AFR site
A 671 Weiand is a roots style blower correct?
They are the least efficent blower and produce less horsepower.
In this combo:
Horsepower: 690 HP
Engine: 383ci - Blown with 671 Weiand
Heads: AFR 195 Competition Package
Compression: 7.8
Carburetor: 2 Holley 650 Double Pumpers
Ignition: MSD Billet Distributor 32° Timing
Cam: Xtreme Energy Hyd Roller Comp Cams
230°/236° .544-.555 lift 114 Lobe Center
Exhaust: 1 3/4 Headers
Fuel: 93 Octane Pump Gas
If it were a super ram or mini ram with a ATI intercooled procharger, would the gains be much higher? Would you be allowed to run compression a little higher? How much boost do you think this combo is running?
Anything else in the above I should know about... I'm curious of it.
They are the least efficent blower and produce less horsepower.
In this combo:
Horsepower: 690 HP
Engine: 383ci - Blown with 671 Weiand
Heads: AFR 195 Competition Package
Compression: 7.8
Carburetor: 2 Holley 650 Double Pumpers
Ignition: MSD Billet Distributor 32° Timing
Cam: Xtreme Energy Hyd Roller Comp Cams
230°/236° .544-.555 lift 114 Lobe Center
Exhaust: 1 3/4 Headers
Fuel: 93 Octane Pump Gas
If it were a super ram or mini ram with a ATI intercooled procharger, would the gains be much higher? Would you be allowed to run compression a little higher? How much boost do you think this combo is running?
Anything else in the above I should know about... I'm curious of it.
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A 671 Weiand is a roots style blower correct?
A 671 Weiand is a roots style blower correct?
They are the least efficent blower and produce less horsepower.
They are the least efficent blower and produce less horsepower.
Roots supercharges produce more boost at lower RPM than centrifugals. Roots units produce boost in a linear proportional fashion. Double the RPM and you double the boost, triple the RPM you triple the boost. Centrifugals are not so linear. The change in boost is the square of the speed of the impeller. So if you double impeller speed the Boost is not just doubled, it is squared. This means that for any given maximum boost (or impeller/engine RPM) you will have less boost at lower RPM compaired with a roots blower. This means less power at lower RPMs, and near maximum boost only at high RPM.
As far as the amount of power made by centrifugals compaired to roots there are just too many variables to really compaire. An engine designed to work best with a roots style may not work as well with a centrifugal. Keep in mind also that the most powerful cars on earth (NHRA Top Fuel & Nitro Funny Cars) use roots style blowers. They are producing over 6000 HP. The roots blower is only part of the engine package. The entire engine combo is purpose built to work together in harmony, with each part taking maximum advantage of each other part.
In this combo:
Horsepower: 690 HP
Engine: 383ci - Blown with 671 Weiand
Heads: AFR 195 Competition Package
Compression: 7.8
Carburetor: 2 Holley 650 Double Pumpers
Ignition: MSD Billet Distributor 32° Timing
Cam: Xtreme Energy Hyd Roller Comp Cams
230°/236° .544-.555 lift 114 Lobe Center
Exhaust: 1 3/4 Headers
Fuel: 93 Octane Pump Gas
If it were a super ram or mini ram with a ATI intercooled procharger, would the gains be much higher?
Horsepower: 690 HP
Engine: 383ci - Blown with 671 Weiand
Heads: AFR 195 Competition Package
Compression: 7.8
Carburetor: 2 Holley 650 Double Pumpers
Ignition: MSD Billet Distributor 32° Timing
Cam: Xtreme Energy Hyd Roller Comp Cams
230°/236° .544-.555 lift 114 Lobe Center
Exhaust: 1 3/4 Headers
Fuel: 93 Octane Pump Gas
If it were a super ram or mini ram with a ATI intercooled procharger, would the gains be much higher?
Would you be allowed to run compression a little higher?
How much boost do you think this combo is running?
Since the output of the supercharger is directly proportional to It's RPM, the ratio of the drive belt pullies changes the amount of boost considerably. Ultimately the blower drive ratio, and whether it is over, or under driven will determine boost.
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