Building my own nitrous system...
Building my own nitrous system...
I want to add a hidden 100 shot of nitrous and would like to build it myself. What is needed in a system and does anyone have any system diagrams? Also, My MAF sensor doesnt run hot enough that it will ignite nitrous right?
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If you inject the nitrous fuel mix into the induction before the MAF you are asking for trouble. I doubt it will cause the mix to explode, but it will certainly cool the wire off tremendously therefore causing a lean/rich condition. You will be better off introducing it after the MAF and if possible after the TB.
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Car: 88 GTA + Dakota on N20
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Nitrous its self is not flamable but if it is a wet shot through the maf it does not sound like a very good idea to me. Lets see here's the parts i can think of off the top of my head. Bottle, pressure gauge, 4an line between the bottle and solenoids, solenoids (fuel and nitrous),Jets,Fogger or plate, Relay and some extra wire,wot switch, 4an line from both solenoids to plate and a 4an line from shrader valve to fuel solenoid. Oh yea dont forget to remove the inards of the shrader valve "or your gonna have a bad time" (southpark). Yes you need the pressure gauge i don't care what anybody says. If you have never done a nitrous kit before i would not recomend doing it this way. It would probably be alot easier and cheaper to just buy a kit from nos. My friend has a 91 bird and all you can see on his is the 1/4 inch thick plate between the tb and plenum. the rest of the lines he just covered in that black coily stuff that you can get from any auto store.If anyone else wants to add anything i might have forgotten feel free.
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It has been done with a dry shot that way. There used to be (might still be) an N2O setup for LS1's that a bunch of guys called the 'Death Bag of Nitrous.'
Basically, a duffle bag with a single braided line going to a valve and a fogger that you mounted in front of the LS1's MAF. The cold blast would force the PCM to pretty much dump as much fuel as it could into the engine via the injectors.
I don't know if anyone ever blew a car up with one, but I would be skeptical with a setup like that on an L98, mostly because the ECM is slower and I'm not sure it would react fast enough or severely enough to give you enough fuel.
Basically, a duffle bag with a single braided line going to a valve and a fogger that you mounted in front of the LS1's MAF. The cold blast would force the PCM to pretty much dump as much fuel as it could into the engine via the injectors.
I don't know if anyone ever blew a car up with one, but I would be skeptical with a setup like that on an L98, mostly because the ECM is slower and I'm not sure it would react fast enough or severely enough to give you enough fuel.
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I can see the mushroom cloud from here.
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b4ctom1 cant you ever!!! say some thing positive, or do you just come here to put everybody down. Some people are just learning just like u and i once did. U dont need to rip on them for no aparent reason.
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I missed something
Who are we ripping a new one and why?
I think that I said there used to be a setup like that, that apparently worked but I wouldn't trust on my car, and he said that basically he could see the thing blowing up.
I've seen good setups rip motors apart, and I've seen some really cool fireballs. But it's not like I've learned better and would never run N2O on something, I own a NX GenX kit with a 15# bottle...
Who are we ripping a new one and why?
I think that I said there used to be a setup like that, that apparently worked but I wouldn't trust on my car, and he said that basically he could see the thing blowing up.
I've seen good setups rip motors apart, and I've seen some really cool fireballs. But it's not like I've learned better and would never run N2O on something, I own a NX GenX kit with a 15# bottle...
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How about, here is what happens if you're lucky and you have a N2O explosion (I bought my current project car with an idle problem among other things):
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Sorry but the last two post i have seen him in he just seemed to be making fun of people who didn't exactly seem to know that much about power adders. If he had some actual usefull info about why the motor would blow or explain why it was a bad idea instead of making fun of them I would understand. Sorry if i have offended anybody.
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Originally posted by 383GTABoy
Sorry but the last two post i have seen him in he just seemed to be making fun of people who didn't exactly seem to know that much about power adders. If he had some actual usefull info about why the motor would blow or explain why it was a bad idea instead of making fun of them I would understand. Sorry if i have offended anybody.
Sorry but the last two post i have seen him in he just seemed to be making fun of people who didn't exactly seem to know that much about power adders. If he had some actual usefull info about why the motor would blow or explain why it was a bad idea instead of making fun of them I would understand. Sorry if i have offended anybody.
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You don't need to add a mechanical switch to the system. There is a company (don't know the name of it) that splices into your TPS connector. When this gizmo reads the correct voltage (user determined) it will activate a relay. It is completely stealth since you can hid the box and where you spliced into.
Just a thought.
I am with B4Ctom1, buy the kit, you will thank yourself later.
Just a thought.
I am with B4Ctom1, buy the kit, you will thank yourself later.
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