Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I have bought many things from Jim over the past few years, but a few things I bought from him were less then desirable and I can't recommend buying from him anymore. About 6 months ago I purchased an NOS set of Recaro door handle emblems. I paid a pretty penny for them and they were described as mint. When I received them, the packaging (which it probably had been packed in since the 80's) was stuck to the face of the emblem, and it left them blemished. I contacted Jim about it and his answer was that I should try to wet sand it out. I was angry, but he claimed that he only consigned the parts and that the seller wouldn't take them back, because I had opened them. It was impossible to see the damage until it was opened. Begrudgingly, I kept the parts because I had done business with him before and did not have an issue. He also carries some hard to find parts. Recently I purchased a set of NOS power door lock plates(the frame that holds the power door lock button). They were also described as mint condition. The plates I received were pitted and scratched and not mint. I told Jim that I wasn't going to let it slide this time and I would give him negative feedback if he did not make good on it. He begrudgingly returned my money. So - even though he sells plenty of nice parts, some are not accurately described and you could get burned. It is for this reason that I recommend staying away from his auctions. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I have bought a few things from him but the only thing I have noticed was the pricing on some items. Its reeeally quite hefty sometimes, sometimes the parts are a good deal. Like everywhere, you have to keep your eyes open.. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by TTOP350
(Post 5464444)
I have bought a few things from him but the only thing I have noticed was the pricing on some items. Its reeeally quite hefty sometimes, sometimes the parts are a good deal. Like everywhere, you have to keep your eyes open.. Our consignment parts are priced by the different consignors we have, don't shoot the messenger ... The items that sell in the auctions do well or poorly, depending on ... well, I wish I knew the reason why ... |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Jim - I was blocked from bidding because I asked for my money back because you inaccurately described the parts I bought. If you describe something as mint and a customer pays top dollar for it, then it should be mint. There is no way you should expect a customer to have to rehab a part that you are selling as top quality. I kept poor quality parts against my better judgement when I should have demanded my money back. It is understandable that some NOS parts are not in the best condition after hanging around all these years. But you should describe their conditon more accurately. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
I have bought many things from Jim Rohn over the past few years, but a few things I bought from him were less then desirable and I can't recommend buying from him anymore.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
About 6 months ago
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
I purchased an NOS set of Recaro door handle emblems. I paid a pretty penny for them and they were described as mint.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
When I received them, the packaging (which it probably had been packed in since the 80's) was stuck to the face of the emblem
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
, and it left them blemished. I contacted Jim about it and his answer was that I should try to wet sand it out.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
I was angry, but he claimed that he only consigned the parts and that the seller wouldn't take them back, because I had opened them.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
It was impossible to see the damage until it was opened.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
Begrudgingly, I kept the parts because I had done business with him before and did not have an issue. He also carries some hard to find parts. Recently
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
I purchased a set of NOS power door lock plates (the frame that holds the power door lock button). They were also described as mint condition. The plates I received were pitted and scratched and not mint.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
I told Jim that I wasn't going to let it slide this time and I would give him negative feedback if he did not make good on it. He begrudgingly returned my money.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464431)
So - even though he sells plenty of nice parts, some are not accurately described and you could get burned. It is for this reason that I recommend staying away from his auctions. Here is the communication that was received TODAY from Mr. (last name removed by moderator): "Jim - I tried bidding on an item today and found out you blocked me from bidding. I have purchased many items from you and had problems with 2 items I bought. I kept 1 item even though it wasn't to my liking and the other item you made good on it. What gives? That is a bit unfair considering I gave you plenty of business. Vincent (last name removed by moderator)" Here is my reply to him: "Vincent, Our consignor asked us to place you on the blocked bidder list as he feels that it has not been worth the aggravation you have given him over his parts. NOS GM parts does not always mean mint or perfect, it just means unused New Old Stock. They come with all the production features a high production part would have WHEN they were still available from GM. My consignor does not see it as unfair, he sees it as a patch for the pot holes we all encounter in life. He wants his life to be as smooth as possible and saw your transactions as pot holes. Jim" Then here is the threat from Mr. (last name removed by moderator) : "No problem Jim. I shared my experience with others over on Thirdgen.org. If you misrepresent a parts condition as mint, you should expect to make good on it. Vincent" |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Wow i need some popcorn and a coke |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Sorry Jim - you are not going to goad me into a fight here. I was willing to give you another chance and purchase from you even though I had issues with you before. But you did the childish thing and banned me from bidding even though I tried to make the issue right with you without giving you negative feedback. In your opinion - if something is sealed, but defective, it is OK to stick a buyer with it, even though upon opening, they were clearly not mint. I am done with this topic as your reaction only proves my point. BTW - I purchased those door handle emblems last March. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464958)
Jim - I was blocked from bidding because I asked for my money back because you inaccurately described the parts I bought.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464958)
If you describe something as mint and a customer pays top dollar for it, then it should be mint.
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464958)
There is no way you should expect a customer to have to rehab a part that you are selling as top quality. I kept poor quality parts against my better judgement when I should have demanded my money back. It is understandable that some NOS parts are not in the best condition after hanging around all these years. But you should describe their conditon more accurately. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him from another thread: 12-28-2011, 05:16 PM #17 82tarecaro Supreme Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,363 Car: 1982 Recaro TA, 1989 TTA#948 Classifieds Rating: (3) Re: Your favorite Vendors/Suppliers Thirdgen Ranch has some great deals. He is also a sponsor here, so it is worth doing business with him, as it supports this site. I have also bought from Rohnaz on Ebay. He has great stuff that can get pricey, but his service is top notch. Fbodywarehouse is also good to deal with, although their selection is somewhat limited. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5464999)
Sorry Jim - you are not going to goad me into a fight here. I was willing to give you another chance and purchase from you even though I had issues with you before. But you did the childish thing and banned me from bidding even though I tried to make the issue right with you without giving you negative feedback. In your opinion - if something is sealed, but defective, it is OK to stick a buyer with it, even though upon opening, they were clearly not mint. I am done with this topic as your reaction only proves my point. BTW - I purchased those door handle emblems last March. IMHO it is NOT ok to "stick" anyone with anything ... unless you are a politician, then it seems to be ok :/ Last March was 10 months ago, not my definition of "recently", but in the scheme of the universe, I guess 10 months is fairly insignificant ... RE: topic reaction ... there are always two sides to a story ... |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Jim - if your favorite restaurant cooked you a few bad meals would you stop going there? Also - would you expect the doors to the place to be locked the next time you went? I did have luck with many of the parts I bought from you. But when you react the way you did when I was not happy with a few of the items I purchased, then I can't recommend that people do business with you. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5465102)
Jim - if your favorite restaurant cooked you a few bad meals would you stop going there? Also - would you expect the doors to the place to be locked the next time you went? I did have luck with many of the parts I bought from you. But when you react the way you did when I was not happy with a few of the items I purchased, then I can't recommend that people do business with you. Regarding your comparison to a restaurant ... there is a term is that industry, it is called 86, people that get one do something to deserve it. The restaurant is still open and doing what they have been doing all along. Ditto about the business recommendation Thumper (in the 1942 movie Bambi) said it best (even with the poor grammar): “If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all. ” |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Well, this thread pretty much speaks for itself. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him :yup: You read each side's "discussion" and make your choice. I think I've made mine. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him {Vincent, I understand your frustration, but we value our consignors and have to respect their decisions.} So screw the customers ha,what ever happened to "The Customers Are Always Right" |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I agree with the OP. If it says mint, I want mint. I've bought new parts from the dealer that were bad and they had no problem giving me a refund and they even still let me come in and buy more parts from them. Awesome |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I agree with the op it's a pain when you get something that's not what you expected and blocking wow bad way to run a business so if I go to and get a lot of stuff but two where not to my liking I get banned wow |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him im wating for a sequel |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him The item was an NOS unopened item that is almost 30 years old. What made this item special is the fact that it was an unopened NOS item. The person bought it, opened it, and was not happy with it., Because the packaging, which it had been in for almost 30 years was stuck to the part. How could the seller know this? How can the seller resell it, now that it is opened and lost all of the "NOS" value? Why did the OP wait so long to complain publicly? Because he wanted to buy more items, and they would not sell to him. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
(Post 5465952)
The item was an NOS unopened item that is almost 30 years old. What made this item special is the fact that it was an unopened NOS item. The person bought it, opened it, and was not happy with it., Because the packaging, which it had been in for almost 30 years was stuck to the part. How could the seller know this? How can the seller resell it, now that it is opened and lost all of the "NOS" value? Why did the OP wait so long to complain publicly? Because he wanted to buy more items, and they would not sell to him. The part is no good, period. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I want to see a pic. Even the op described it as a blimish on a decal. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him The ebay site says "returns accepted with in 14 days" Buyer pays return shipping. OP says he got his money back. So what is the issue here? PO'ed because you are banned or PO'ed because the part was not mint? That is what is great about America-we have CHOICES. If you dont like his products-dont buy them. I am not taking sides-I have never had a problem with Jim's stuff. Always quality IMO. But he has no control over something that has been sitting for 30 yrs unopened. I guess maybe he should open the packages and take pictures. But some people would probably not buy or pay less because it was opened. Just saying. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Wait a minute,I see 82s point,did you see how this guy advertises his merchandise WOW,MINT,UNUSED,showroom correct,here's an example, http://www.ebay.com/itm/330856521335...=p5197.c0.m619 |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Positive Feedback: 99.9% Feedback score: 14489 |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him These are most likely the packages that the parts come in, https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/pict...1&dl=135821357 They are clearly marked,but you don't know that until you receive them and they can check before they send them.I just don't understand being banned from buying because you returned a couple items that wasn't what they advertised.:2cents: |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I absolutely see his point too. But he got a refund and shouldnt buy from him again. If I have a bad experience with something, I try to learn from it. At least he got the refund, that doesnt happen in all cases. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
(Post 5465288)
Well, this thread pretty much speaks for itself. Jeezzzz.... |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I think your wrong. Vincent is a good guy. He knows what he's doing. If you cant tell if there mint or not because package is unopened especially a 30 yr old one you should not.advertise it as mint. Mint means flawless and if you don't get whats advertised then that's false advertising. After reading this thread I agree with Vincent and i would not buy anything from this guy. I bet if this happened to you guys you would be. highly upset to. So dont say its his fault when its not. If you think its Vincent's fault then you guys are all delusional |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
(Post 5465952)
The item was an NOS unopened item that is almost 30 years old. What made this item special is the fact that it was an unopened NOS item. The person bought it, opened it, and was not happy with it., Because the packaging, which it had been in for almost 30 years was stuck to the part. That's all the more reason for sellers to open NOS boxes and check each part and post pics with the box/packaging, There's no other way to know the condition otherwise since they've been sitting who knows where and what kind of climates they've endured, Steel rust and plastic gets brittle. I've bought many NOS parts over the years for different projects, But I'll never buy without seeing pics of what I'm buying. A sealed box doesn't make a part more valuable, Just a gamble buying sight unseen....... |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by kymmee
(Post 5466141)
I absolutely see his point too. But he got a refund and shouldnt buy from him again. If I have a bad experience with something, I try to learn from it. At least he got the refund, that doesn't happen in all cases. You can make up your own minds. You heard both sides of the issue. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
(Post 5465952)
The item was an NOS unopened item that is almost 30 years old. What made this item special is the fact that it was an unopened NOS item. The person bought it, opened it, and was not happy with it., Because the packaging, which it had been in for almost 30 years was stuck to the part. How could the seller know this? How can the seller resell it, now that it is opened and lost all of the "NOS" value? Why did the OP wait so long to complain publicly? Because he wanted to buy more items, and they would not sell to him. we have a winner :) |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by kymmee
(Post 5466041)
The ebay site says "returns accepted with in 14 days" Buyer pays return shipping. OP says he got his money back. So what is the issue here? PO'ed because you are banned or PO'ed because the part was not mint? That is what is great about America-we have CHOICES. If you dont like his products-dont buy them. I am not taking sides-I have never had a problem with Jim's stuff. Always quality IMO. But he has no control over something that has been sitting for 30 yrs unopened. I guess maybe he should open the packages and take pictures. But some people would probably not buy or pay less because it was opened. Just saying. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by mantaguy
(Post 5466099)
Wait a minute,I see 82s point,did you see how this guy advertises his merchandise WOW,MINT,UNUSED,showroom correct,here's an example, http://www.ebay.com/itm/330856521335...=p5197.c0.m619 ever since the issue that Vincent so kindly brought up, we do limit the use of those terms to items we can open and confirm condition. Other items that are SEALED for years simply get an "unused" description. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by 96BlownSSragtop
(Post 5466153)
Yep, sure does...the OP is a whiney biotch. Instead of crying all over the internet about an un-opened 30 year old NOS part that didn't meet their definition of "perfect", they should be damn happy they could even find one in an un-opened package and aren't forced to deal with used junkyard parts. If you're that picky then you have no business buying stuff without seeing it in person so you can inspect it. Jeezzzz.... The emblems / door handle inserts WERE sealed. Viewing them in person would give the same view of them. I do not know what he would have done if he had them at a swap meet and someone wanted to open them up for the 1st time. I do know that a lot of people that buy our stuff showcase them and never use the parts. It is important to them that they remain factory "sealed" with the original part numbers. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Jim - I didn't buy them to showcase them. I bought them to use them. I don't think I would have bought them at a swap meet without being able to see them. It is understandable that they are 30 year old parts. It is not your fault that they were packaged improperly by GM. But a product's value is determined by its condition. And BTW - Kymmee is a personal friend of mine and she stated it correctly in an email I exchanged with her. Buying parts is like buying drugs - you go to the source for what you need and you are one of those few sources in the thirdgen world. I was willing to look past some of the parts I wasn't happy with as long as I could still get some hard to find parts. No hard feelings on this end Jim. You have to do what you have to do. Just business I guess... |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5476555)
Jim - I didn't buy them to showcase them. I bought them to use them. I don't think I would have bought them at a swap meet without being able to see them. It is understandable that they are 30 year old parts. It is not your fault that they were packaged improperly by GM. But a product's value is determined by its condition. And BTW - Kymmee is a personal friend of mine and she stated it correctly in an email I exchanged with her. Buying parts is like buying drugs - you go to the source for what you need and you are one of those few sources in the thirdgen world. I was willing to look past some of the parts I wasn't happy with as long as I could still get some hard to find parts. No hard feelings on this end Jim. You have to do what you have to do. Just business I guess... I have a network of consignors that prefer not to deal with computers and the general public. One you could almost call a hermit ... . He does not want anyone to know who he is, where he lives, etc. Funny thing though is that he used to advertise in Hemmings for 30 years (until ebay & the internet took over). There are a special few that "know" him, but he prefers to remain anonymous. Anyway, the 3rd gen items come from him and I had to respect his request to add you to the blocked bidder list. No hard feelings here either, I just don't appreciate your email threat and you posting your dirty laundry for all to see. Others that have posted above agree with me as well. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him you don't have to to buy drugs to know whats going on, its common sense what happens during a drug deal. I too do not buy drugs or associate with anyone that does drugs but i know how things pretty much operate. why cant Vincent air his displeasure? its his right. No offense but after seeing this i wouldn't buy from you. i can tell how you are as a seller. is there something like you screwed someone else and are mad about seeing this post and afraid others will speak bad too? cause thats what it seems to me |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Jim - I guess you don't know what an analogy is. But that is OK. I don't associate with drug dealers or do drugs either. I don't think everyone disagreed with me. And that was the whole point. People need to make up their own minds about doing business with certain vendors. I can respect your consignors decisions. But others need to make up their minds about doing business with your consignors too. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
(Post 5466110)
Positive Feedback: 99.9% Feedback score: 14489 |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him [QUOTE=GOATS2QUICK;5477451]http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...ed+by&ref=home[/QUOTE :hmmm: |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him :iagree: |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by GOATS2QUICK
(Post 5477451)
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Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by jas2730
(Post 5477711)
WOW! What a freaking d**k! Judging by his replies to negative feedback he's never done a thing wrong in his life. Just wondering why he feels the need to reply to paying customers with insults? |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him cause he know's hes wrong! how he has a high score i have no clue, either people are dumb or people just dont have gonads to say something |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by kitt23
(Post 5477788)
how he has a high score i have no clue People fear leaving neg FB because most sellers with this guy's mentality will retaliate leaving them unwarranted neg FB...... |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him your right |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him I dont do drugs either or purchase them. In my personal coversation with Vincent I was merely using a metaphor for comparison. He understood what I meant, but I dont want others to get the wrong idea. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him Sorry Kymmee - I wouldn't have posted it if I thought others would not understand it. It was just a good comparison. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by 82tarecaro
(Post 5478177)
Sorry Kymmee - I wouldn't have posted it if I thought others would not understand it. It was just a good comparison. |
Re: Ebay vendor Rohnaz - don't buy from him
Originally Posted by kymmee
(Post 5478184)
Not a problem. |
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