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Slater126 04-23-2012 10:17 AM

Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
My fuel tank vent valve is not working correctly. It remains open all the time and as a result the car smells like gasoline :( The valve is GM Part No. 10033125 but has been discontinued. It's the plastic valve that is located on the rear axle on the driver's side of the car. It has a tab to clip into a mount on the axle.

Does anyone have one of these used or know a supply source? Thanks much!

sonjaab 04-24-2012 09:45 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
I would send a e-mail to denny at www.thirdgenranch.com
He may have a used one.

I see on e-bay that there are several other 0ne line connection fuel tank vent valves
One is for a blazer and is a GM part and another is a Dorman product.
You could prob. rig one of these up and attach it to the car body instead of
the axle.

Check with Denny first if you want OEM.

Dakota W. 04-24-2012 09:56 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
you could plug it and get a vented cap.

Slater126 04-26-2012 10:54 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Thanks guys. I was able to scare one up from henryd3, who rocks, along with an HVAC control valve -- two important parts that GM decided to discontinue. I'm going to watch ebay and stockpile a couple of these parts!

As to the vented cap, sounds straightforward. But will that work, or just vent fuel vapors into the air just like my now two-way fuel tank vent valve does? That's what I'd be concerned with.

87350IROC 04-26-2012 11:10 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by Slater126 (Post 5255255)
Thanks guys. I was able to scare one up from henryd3, who rocks, along with an HVAC control valve -- two important parts that GM decided to discontinue. I'm going to watch ebay and stockpile a couple of these parts!

As to the vented cap, sounds straightforward. But will that work, or just vent fuel vapors into the air just like my now two-way fuel tank vent valve does? That's what I'd be concerned with.

You did the right thing. The vented gas cap will be just as smelly as what you have now. Not a good plan.

Slater126 04-26-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 87350IROC (Post 5255265)
You did the right thing. The vented valve will be just as smelly as what you have now. Not a good plan.

Absolutely terrible. A car that reeks of gasoline does not inspire a lot of confidence (thank God I don't smoke, LOL!). I'm suprised GM would discontinue a key and relatively inexpensive part like this. If these were '69 Camaro's these would be available next to the potato chips at Jimmy Johns. I guess GM doesn't really consider the third gens worth saving. Probably a summary of GM's attitude towards their products made after 1980 or so.

jlarsson 04-28-2012 06:41 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Anyone know if the vent valve for the 4th Gen is the same PSI rating and will work as a replacement ... got two really nice used ones (4th Gen) hence my question as the one for the 3rd Gen's been discontinued and used ones always break when removed as the plastic is so brittle after all these years on the cars ...

kiztope 04-11-2014 12:18 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Bringing this thread back from the dead! Has anyone come up with any good sources for these things? (I've yet to find one...)

MJS422 04-11-2014 01:30 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
I had the fuel smell with mine also.
Has any one thought about disassebling the valve cleaning it and putting it back together.

That is what I did with mine and it worked like a charm. Just sayin.
Alot of dirt and crud in there, probably due to the location near the rear wheel.

DynoDave43 04-11-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MJS422 (Post 5746469)
I had the fuel smell with mine also.
Has any one thought about disassebling the valve cleaning it and putting it back together.

That is what I did with mine and it worked like a charm. Just sayin.
Alot of dirt and crud in there, probably due to the location near the rear wheel.

I don't suppose you have any photos of this procedure, do you? Would love to have them for future reference.

MJS422 04-11-2014 08:18 PM

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Here is an old one from my spare parts bin. I will disassemble and clean it tomorrow morning, post some pics with a detailed procedure. Should be a help to everyone here.

DynoDave43 04-11-2014 09:43 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by MJS422 (Post 5746660)
Here is an old one from my spare parts bin. I will disassemble and clean it tomorrow morning, post some pics with a detailed procedure. Should be a help to everyone here.

Wow...ask and you shall receive! Thanks MJS422!

t-top havoc 04-11-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DynoDave43 (Post 5746709)
Wow...ask and you shall receive! Thanks MJS422!

X 2!!
I never even pondered taking it apart, only thought about spraying with carb or brake cleaner.

jlarsson 04-12-2014 03:58 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Main problem with them is the plastic is so brittle ... the tabs holding it to the metal bracket break so easily and also when you do pry it open you find that some are very easy to take a part while others are really stuck together (from manufacturing when assembled) and hard to take apart without breaking one of the two halves.

If you can twist the upper and lower halves easily it should come apart fairly easy.

MJS422 04-12-2014 06:49 AM

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I will try to be quick about this and keep it short. Besides it will 70 here in Cleveland today and I am really excited about getting my Formula washed up and out for fresh tank of gas and a long cruise.

The most important thing to remember here is not to break the plastic you have to use a pick tool to disassemble the valve, not a screwdriver!

Here is the first pic before disassembly.

MJS422 04-12-2014 06:51 AM

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Next use the the tool to pry back on one of the tabs that keep the two halves locked together.

MJS422 04-12-2014 06:56 AM

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While doing this gently work the tool between the two valve body pieces and add some pressure to pull the help pull and separate the two halves apart. Note only one tab need to be released, not all six. If you do break or deform one it is not a big deal. When reassembled the unit will function fine and stay together.

MJS422 04-12-2014 06:59 AM

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Next step is to pry out and remove the inner spring retainer ring. From there you can completely disassemble.

MJS422 04-12-2014 07:01 AM

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Next clean and degrease all parts. I would recommend super clean and soapy water rather than carb or brake cleaner, both to harsh for the plastic and rubber parts inside.

MJS422 04-12-2014 07:05 AM

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Finally reassemble the pieces and snap together and you are good to go.
Hope this helps some members out, sorry about the poor pic quality I used my Iphone to post this.

Now if you will excuse me I have a Third gen in the garage that needs some exercising. Can't wait to pull the gears! Worst winter here in 30yrs.

Have a good weekend every one.

DynoDave43 04-12-2014 05:05 PM

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Outstanding! Thank you sir. All copied, captioned, and saved to my hard drive.

From a Metro Detroiter to a N.E. Ohioan, I hope you enjoyed your drive. It's nice to see winter finally over. :driving:

t-top havoc 04-12-2014 07:07 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Thanks for taking the time!! This will come in handy!!

RockinGTA89 04-13-2014 09:34 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by MJS422 (Post 5746846)
Finally reassemble the pieces and snap together and you are good to go.
Hope this helps some members out, sorry about the poor pic quality I used my Iphone to post this.

Now if you will excuse me I have a Third gen in the garage that needs some exercising. Can't wait to pull the gears! Worst winter here in 30yrs.

Have a good weekend every one.

worst winter you say! It was a ridiculous winter! I thought it would never end! it did hit 70 here today (early am) but by noon, it dropped 25 degrees! now we're only expecting to hit 41 tommarow with possible snow showers...guess i better pull the thick coat back out of the closet after pullling my summer sandels today.....:bs:

GunnerGTA 04-13-2014 09:53 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by MJS422 (Post 5746846)
Finally reassemble the pieces and snap together and you are good to go.
Hope this helps some members out, sorry about the poor pic quality I used my Iphone to post this.

Now if you will excuse me I have a Third gen in the garage that needs some exercising. Can't wait to pull the gears! Worst winter here in 30yrs.

Have a good weekend every one.

I hope you enjoyed yesterday and today as I did because there's snow in the forecast on Tuesday.:doh:

zya5point0 04-14-2014 07:20 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Did you check Gmpartsdirect.Com? I got one from there a couple years ago:)

87cam305 04-15-2014 10:08 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
I need to get one of these to. mine dumps gas on the ground every time I fill up.

82tarecaro 04-16-2014 09:40 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by 87cam305 (Post 5748863)
I need to get one of these to. mine dumps gas on the ground every time I fill up.

I am not sure how that could be the fault of the valve itself. The valve is a vent off the top of the tank. It is a 2 way valve, meaning it will let pressure in and out at a set pressure. With that said, I had the same issue as you after installing a fuel pump in my car. It turned out that I had mistakenly switched the rubber line with the fuel return from the fuel injection. So when the tank built up pressure it would spit out fuel since the return inside the tank is low enough to be in liquid and not vapor. My fuel system would still return fuel fine, since it was dumping it through the vent. I switched the lines back where they belonged and problem solved.
Make sure your vent is plumbed properly.

87cam305 04-30-2014 09:25 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
The last time I dropped the tank was in 2003. My current problem didn't show up till 2011. I sold the car to a friend in 2008, and he drove it for a couple of years then the car sat for a year in a field. Got moved around every blue moon, but for the most part it just sat. I bought it back, and at first it wouldn't vent at all when filling up. Tried cleaning the vent and now it vents so well it dumps gas on the ground every fill up.

82tarecaro 04-30-2014 09:40 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by 87cam305 (Post 5757442)
The last time I dropped the tank was in 2003. My current problem didn't show up till 2011. I sold the car to a friend in 2008, and he drove it for a couple of years then the car sat for a year in a field. Got moved around every blue moon, but for the most part it just sat. I bought it back, and at first it wouldn't vent at all when filling up. Tried cleaning the vent and now it vents so well it dumps gas on the ground every fill up.

I would still check how it is plumbed. The vent is on top of the tank. There should not be any liquid fuel in that line - only vapors.

89zconvertible 05-03-2014 02:22 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Thanks for the info on cleaning the valve. I work in the parts business and cannot locate a new anywhere. I'll have to give it a try.

92GTA 05-05-2014 11:16 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
My 92 recently failed smog in CA because my tank would not hold pressure when tested. It always did in the past and it had the recall work done on the fuel filler neck issue back in the day.

Could this be causing it? I've never even heard of it before. Anyone know the GM P/N for this valve?

82tarecaro 05-05-2014 11:22 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Possibly. I can't believe the test they run in California.

92GTA 05-07-2014 01:22 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by 82tarecaro (Post 5759742)
Possibly. I can't believe the test they run in California.

Yeah and they are always changing it too! The past couple tests, they don't even manually verify the EGR function anymore and this last time they added the pressurize the tank thing. Before they would just test the gas cap seal on a machine.

My engine emissions passed with flying colors clean as could be, but I failed just for my tank releasing pressure too quickly. Freakin a.

blacksunshine'91 05-12-2014 09:11 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
That sucks Alex. When did they add the tank pressure test? Seems like they're trying to invent ways to get our cars off the road.

gt4373 05-12-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zya5point0 (Post 5748090)
Did you check Gmpartsdirect.Com? I got one from there a couple years ago:)

They Are Long Gone.



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deb92rs 10-04-2014 03:48 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
I'm also in need of one of these. Anyone have one they'd like to sell?

92GTA 10-04-2014 04:20 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by blacksunshine'91 (Post 5763367)
That sucks Alex. When did they add the tank pressure test? Seems like they're trying to invent ways to get our cars off the road.

This last smog around was the first time I have seen them do it, prior it was just testing the fuel cap.

I keep my car registered at a friends address up in the mountains where it's a different smog "zone" from Bakersfield so it's just a tail pipe test and not on a dyno. Surprises me how even the most basic type of test is so rigorous now.

greenyone 01-03-2015 11:59 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Is this #gm 10033125 part the same for all 82-92's???

tonys91rs 03-08-2015 01:44 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
I have a tank ventire valve I took apart and cleaned. Ready to install. $15 plus shipping. Pm me for pictures

GASPEDDLER 03-29-2016 10:57 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by tonys91rs (Post 5887409)
I have a tank ventire valve I took apart and cleaned. Ready to install. $15 plus shipping. Pm me for pictures

PM sent

smokefan 04-27-2016 12:06 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Quick question guys. My tank builds up alot of pressure. I have all the emission stuff deleted and went from carb to EFI. Would the vent valve stuck closed cause this issue also. I went with a vented cap and the pressure that came out started to make the pain peal on the inside of the gas tank door.

cmk-2 09-30-2016 12:38 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
On hot days sometimes I hear a high pitch hiss and smell raw gas. The sound is coming from the area of the tank driver's side. Could this be the vent? and if so should it sound like that?
Thanks for any help,
Robin
Destin,Fl

Bob88GTA 09-30-2016 01:59 PM

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cmk-2 Yes, that's the little vent opening. It opens around 6-7psi. Sometimes it will sound like a dying cow. If you open the cap, the cow dies!
PS: Just got back from 10day in Destin/FWB!

cmk-2 09-30-2016 02:27 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Cool. Thanks. Did you have fun? Sunburn????

Bob88GTA 09-30-2016 02:35 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by cmk-2 (Post 6081957)
Cool. Thanks. Did you have fun? Sunburn????

It was beautiful.Rained the morning we left to come home(17th). No sunburn and actually forgot to look you up and remembered on the way home.:(

JRobling 11-12-2016 09:00 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
This thread helped me to make this:

W.E.G. 11-12-2016 10:54 PM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 

Originally Posted by JRobling (Post 6091506)
This thread helped me to make this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40cc...NB3q1&index=24

Thank you!

Abubaca 11-13-2016 10:08 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
I remembered this thread from a search a few months ago. Knew the time was coming to swap the pump, and I wanted to clean that valve too. started work last night on the pump swap, searched for this thread this morning and BAM...new posts with a video!!!!! Awesome!

Fire"Dutch"Bird 11-14-2016 11:28 AM

Re: Fuel Tank Vent Valve?
 
Would this be a good alternative?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tanks-Inc-VV...xVKVhp&vxp=mtr


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...0837bfb722.jpg

Fire"Dutch"Bird 11-14-2016 11:32 AM

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...or this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dorman-Fuel-...tXqD4a&vxp=mtr


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...bf1e452242.jpg


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