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ray jr 12-08-2020 12:45 AM

440 mile iroc on bat
 
theres a 440 mile iroc on bat .. will it top 50k .. i think so
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-28-iroc-z-15/
https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL13.../414494400.jpg

BizJetTech 12-08-2020 06:08 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by ray jr (Post 6406072)

I dont see it reaching $50K, my guess is low to mid $40's

TransamGTA350 12-08-2020 08:42 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by BizJetTech (Post 6406077)
I dont see it reaching $50K, my guess is low to mid $40's

Yeah, I'm thinking $40K +- a few thousand.

Odd that it has power locks, but crank windows. Otherwise, really nice car and has a great color combo.

StevenB L98/LS1 12-08-2020 09:04 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Idk depends on how BADLY someone wants a pretty new iroc. I mean i dont see it being driven so it covers up that its a 2.77 granny gear car, single cat 230 hp. So the value isnt going to reflect upon the options, just more of a garage queen time capsule that leaves it on a open market with someone with deep pockets. There getting a new car essentially so that changes price of the market some.

TransamGTA350 12-08-2020 09:32 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by StevenB L98/LS1 (Post 6406084)
Idk depends on how BADLY someone wants a pretty new iroc. I mean i dont see it being driven so it covers up that its a 2.77 granny gear car, single cat 230 hp. So the value isnt going to reflect upon the options, just more of a garage queen time capsule that leaves it on a open market with someone with deep pockets. There getting a new car essentially so that changes price of the market some.

Yeah, I agree. The lack of power windows won't affect the value at this point and it really doesn't matter.

gt4373 12-08-2020 09:44 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Curious To Know What That Open Recall Is.

gt4373 12-08-2020 10:00 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by gt4373 (Post 6406092)
Curious To Know What That Open Recall Is.


Found It Seat Belt Buckles

ray jr 12-08-2020 11:57 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by BizJetTech (Post 6406077)
I dont see it reaching $50K, my guess is low to mid $40's

i guess we will see .. if it had 4400 miles maybe then 40k but 440 mile irocs just dont come around very often ..also its the right color and right year .. 89's seem to do better then the 85-87 ..

BizJetTech 12-08-2020 12:07 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by ray jr (Post 6406110)
i guess we will see .. if it had 4400 miles maybe then 40k but 440 mile irocs just dont come around very often ..also its the right color and right year .. 89's seem to do better then the 85-87 ..

A friend of mine sold an Iroc with around 100 miles on it - it sold for under $50K about a year ago........ if I recall correctly
and lets not forget about the "claybar" IROC.....:lmao:

ray jr 12-08-2020 12:11 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by BizJetTech (Post 6406112)
A friend of mine sold an Iroc with around 100 miles on it - it sold for under $50K about a year ago........ if I recall correctly
and lets not forget about the "claybar" car.....:lmao:

well its at 46k with 6 days to go .. was your friends iroc a red 89 350 ?

BizJetTech 12-08-2020 12:11 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Then again.......you may be correct Ray, it's already at $46K......CRAZY!

BizJetTech 12-08-2020 12:13 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by ray jr (Post 6406113)
well its at 46k with 6 days to go .. was your friends iroc a red 89 350 ?

It was a dark red IROC but I cant recall the year, I'm thinking it was an 87, but just dont remember.
Sucks to get old.....memory goes right out the window :nod:

ray jr 12-08-2020 12:17 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by BizJetTech (Post 6406114)
Then again.......you may be correct Ray, it's already at $46K......CRAZY!

this is a once in a lifetime car and it has the look .. here is a 87 with 3k miles that sold for 36k recently on bat .. it just doesnt have the same appeal ..
https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL13.../414494589.jpg
https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL13.../414494400.jpg

BizJetTech 12-08-2020 12:20 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
It's got your name on it Ray......:thumbsup:
Sorry, there are a lot of other cars I'd pay $50K for before spending that coin on an 89 IROC,
even if it has only 440 miles

ray jr 12-08-2020 12:24 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by BizJetTech (Post 6406117)
It's got your name on it Ray......:thumbsup:
Sorry, there are a lot of other cars I'd pay $50K for before spending that coin on an 89 IROC,
even if it has only 440 miles

i agree .. there are a lot of wealthy people on bat buying cars and do it for fun it seems like ..see the same buyers a lot .. i would of thrown my hat in the ring in the low 40's but thats it .. this car is going to do well ..

BizJetTech 12-08-2020 12:44 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by ray jr (Post 6406118)
i agree .. there are a lot of wealthy people on bat buying cars and do it for fun it seems like ..see the same buyers a lot .. i would of thrown my hat in the ring in the low 40's but thats it .. this car is going to do well ..

It's at $48 already.....at this rate it will easily go over $50

ray jr 12-08-2020 01:03 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by BizJetTech (Post 6406123)
It's at $48 already.....at this rate it will easily go over $50

see i do know a little about irocs , lol .. honestly the year , color and miles that we may never see again im not surprised at its current bid .. again there are a lot of wealthy people on bat that want to buy cars nobody else can get ..
i can see it now with everbody with there irocs with miles in the teens , twenties and thirties thinking this reflects on the value of there car .. it has nothing to do with there car .. miles in the teens on bat means prices in the teens on bat usually ..

StevenB L98/LS1 12-08-2020 01:58 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
The bids on this car are not by potential buyers, the seller is hijacked the bidding up to a ridiculous amount. Look down at the bids, packardparadise is the seller. He keeps out bidding the buyers every time. He put in the last bid at 48k.

gt4373 12-08-2020 03:26 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by StevenB L98/LS1 (Post 6406136)
The bids on this car are not by potential buyers, the seller is hijacked the bidding up to a ridiculous amount. Look down at the bids, packardparadise is the seller. He keeps out bidding the buyers every time. He put in the last bid at 48k.

:yup:

What A Rip Off

BizJetTech 12-08-2020 03:59 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by StevenB L98/LS1 (Post 6406136)
The bids on this car are not by potential buyers, the seller is hijacked the bidding up to a ridiculous amount. Look down at the bids, packardparadise is the seller. He keeps out bidding the buyers every time. He put in the last bid at 48k.

The seller cant bid on his own car - impossible

JT 12-08-2020 04:38 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by StevenB L98/LS1 (Post 6406136)
The bids on this car are not by potential buyers, the seller is hijacked the bidding up to a ridiculous amount. Look down at the bids, packardparadise is the seller. He keeps out bidding the buyers every time. He put in the last bid at 48k.

The seller is listed as : Pmotors


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...cc60720258.jpg
My theory is that packardparadise is actually Scott M bidding up the car as an example to BaT so they'll accept his IROC's price this time around. Kidding, of course.

StevenB L98/LS1 12-08-2020 05:49 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
That's still crazy prices with 6 days left.

scottmoyer 12-08-2020 05:52 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
LOL.

LAFireboyd 12-08-2020 06:56 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
There are definitely "plants" that drive up the prices at auctions. When bidding reaches a plateau, and the would-be winning bidder is allowed to withdraw his bid, you don't actually think it's because his bid was "accidentally" based upon a "misunderstanding" of the bid price, do you? I won a bid like that once. When the bidding got higher than my range, I stopped bidding. Then when I wouldn't go higher than the next bid, there was suddenly some "confusion," and then after quiet, off-mic discussion, the "winner" was allowed to withdraw his bid, and I won based upon my previous lower bid. Legit? No freaking way. Auctions are full of just as many crooks as in the real world. And it sounds there's one involved in this one.

KMK454 12-08-2020 08:50 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Notice how all these super low mile examples that were immediately parked have 2 pedals?

aliceempire 12-09-2020 05:02 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
The 4.3 mile car had 3 pedals.

LeonardS 12-09-2020 10:21 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
If this trend with Third Gens continues, I may have a car for sale🤓

scottmoyer 12-09-2020 04:01 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
I remember a $50k price listed in 2005. Is $100k too low these days for your car? If this one is already over $50k with 440 miles, imagine the price the LAST 3rd gen will receive, with only 125 miles.

LeonardS 12-09-2020 04:05 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by scottmoyer (Post 6406254)
I remember a $50k price listed in 2005. Is $100k too low these days for your car? If this one is already over $50k with 440 miles, imagine the price the LAST 3rd gen will receive, with only 125 miles.

$100k wouldn’t interest me, but the way things are going, nice examples might soon get there.🤷
$50k wouldn’t have bought it in 2005🤓

Jenkins 12-09-2020 06:03 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
It topped $50k. That’s impressive. I also didn’t expect it to go that high

KMK454 12-09-2020 06:34 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by aliceempire (Post 6406191)
The 4.3 mile car had 3 pedals.

That's one. The only other I can think of is the blue IROC 1LE, also a super low mile car.

KMK454 12-09-2020 07:42 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by LeonardS (Post 6406255)
$100k wouldn’t interest me, but the way things are going, nice examples might soon get there.🤷
$50k wouldn’t have bought it in 2005🤓

Leonard, if you wait long enough, and if somebody with common sense works at GM, they'll make you on offer you can't refuse to put it in the heritage museum.

LeonardS 12-09-2020 08:03 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by KMK454 (Post 6406301)
Leonard, if you wait long enough, and if somebody with common sense works at GM, they'll make you on offer you can't refuse to put it in the heritage museum.

Going back to GM would be the best case I could think of.

GarageToys 12-10-2020 03:49 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by StevenB L98/LS1 (Post 6406160)
That's still crazy prices with 6 days left.

Did you read the comments on BaT? One guy said he'd pay $100K if he could go back to 1989 and enjoy it. :lmao:


GarageToys 12-10-2020 04:19 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
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F-body-fan 12-12-2020 05:58 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
I think when you get into these ultra low mile, intentionally stored cars, the sky can be the limit. There are often shill bids bringing them up just like they do at mecum or where ever. Although at mecum its normally when its below reserve. In auctions like BJ or above reserve, & your shill bid wins the auction, you pay both seller and buyers fee's, so you have to be ready for that big expense looking for that one real bid. its a common practice & no big secret. However, sometimes there is that one guy who has super deep pockets & the price becomes a small issue that doesn't get in the way because they want the car & if its optioned how they want, there is not more to choose from. Cars like this are simply amazing to look at & they likely fall into amazing private collections.

I would not shell out that much money, but it is interesting how many of us will pay more than this for a new 2500 truck & likely loose 10K on it in the first 2-3 years & think very little of it. I suppose maybe because its just what people do & if you want to drive a new vehicle, thats what happens, so people just accept it as normal.

I guess the big difference here is, you really can't drive this Iroc more than a couple times or it will cost more you than 10K to do so. So its not the same as a new truck or whatever vehicle, but it is the same kind of cash that nobody thinks twice about when its spent on a new car at 50K & up. :o

ev305tpi 12-12-2020 12:39 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by BizJetTech (Post 6406112)
A friend of mine sold an Iroc with around 100 miles on it - it sold for under $50K about a year ago........ if I recall correctly
and lets not forget about the "claybar" IROC.....:lmao:

It went to the same collection this one came out of.

JT 12-14-2020 05:24 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Looks like the winning bid was $55,000 to someone who has bought some European cars on BaT over the last few months. Though he said he's got a Monte Carlo SS to sit with it.

Guess Scott will be emailing BaT to get his IROC accepted with his reserve?


Originally Posted by ray jr (Post 6406072)


F-body-fan 12-14-2020 07:51 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
where do you guys think the price starts to change on these ultra low mile cars? collectors seems to go crazy over cars like this that are basically bought to be stored. 400 miles could happen over 30+ years of just keeping it maintained I suppose. Or maybe that happened in the first year? I would think 100 miles or 500 miles would be the same value? but is 1000 or 2000?

There was a 79 tenth aniveraray TA that sold on either BJ or mecum a few years back. Had very low miles, but was stored in a less than desirable garage. The car had a lot of rust of the poorly painted parts that would rust on daily drivers, but should not have rusted on a car in storage. I think that car sold for nearly 80K & it was solely because of the odometer.

I'll have to see if I can still find that car......

ray jr 12-14-2020 09:01 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by JT (Post 6406952)
Looks like the winning bid was $55,000 to someone who has bought some European cars on BaT over the last few months. Though he said he's got a Monte Carlo SS to sit with it.

Guess Scott will be emailing BaT to get his IROC accepted with his reserve?

does scott have a 400 mile iroc ? if not this car has nothing to do with any iroc that doesnt have under a 1000 miles .. now if you have a iroc with miles in the teens there are a ton on bat you can compare it with .. sadly not very impressive

JT 12-14-2020 09:40 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by ray jr (Post 6406981)
does scott have a 400 mile iroc ? if not this car has nothing to do with any iroc that doesnt have under a 1000 miles .. now if you have a iroc with miles in the teens there are a ton on bat you can compare it with .. sadly not very impressive

The remark was kind of a tease to Scott.

That said, it did bring in about 20K more than the famous clay bar IROC.

ray jr 12-14-2020 11:07 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by JT (Post 6406992)
The remark was kind of a tease to Scott.

That said, it did bring in about 20K more than the famous clay bar IROC.

i was just messing also .. everyone on the facebook iroc forum is all exited about what this car brought and they think there 100k mile iroc is now worth 30k .. scotts car is awesome and would love to see what it would bring on bat , but with no reserve that would be dangerous ..

that being said, this car brought 30-40k more than most of the irocs with miles in the teens and twenties in the last year and 20k more than a 3,000 mile 87 iroc that sold in august .. miles in the hundreds are in a league of there own for any car ..

topduarte 12-16-2020 09:31 AM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Article on Hagerty
https://www.hagerty.com/media/market...wsletter_NewDD

BizJetTech 12-16-2020 02:23 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by ev305tpi (Post 6406644)
It went to the same collection this one came out of.

I thought so.....:thumbsup:

zya5point0 12-27-2020 08:42 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Haven't been here for a while so just saw this lol. It's impressive that an IROC brought that kind of money, but even if you got that kind of play money, what they heck does one do with a car like that? Ok, i from 20 feet away it's a super clean original IROC. But regardless of mileage, will any of these extreme low mile 80's cars ever see the kind of money as say, a 69 rs z28? Or a zl1? I was watching mecum a couple weeks ago. Seemed as tho old school muscle car prices are pretty low right now? I get the coolness factor, but unless your elon musk, don't see it as a real "investment?

LeonardS 12-27-2020 09:06 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by zya5point0 (Post 6408628)
Haven't been here for a while so just saw this lol. It's impressive that an IROC brought that kind of money, but even if you got that kind of play money, what they heck does one do with a car like that? Ok, i from 20 feet away it's a super clean original IROC. But regardless of mileage, will any of these extreme low mile 80's cars ever see the kind of money as say, a 69 rs z28? Or a zl1? I was watching mecum a couple weeks ago. Seemed as tho old school muscle car prices are pretty low right now? I get the coolness factor, but unless your elon musk, don't see it as a real "investment?

Many of us buy them for reasons other than “investment”. I’m guessing that this buyer was not buying as an investment, unless he plans to live a long time🤓

GeneralDisorder 12-28-2020 05:14 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
If I had that kind of disposable money I would absolutely buy a 91/92 Formula in that condition just to drive as my daily. Think about it - what can you buy brand new for $57k that wouldn't lose value the minute you left the lot with it? And probably turn into an electrical nightmare in 10 years when the CANBUS has fits of rage and refuses to BUS anymore? Nothing is the answer - and yet millions of people every year walk into a dealership and pay that much or more for today's plastic disposable garbage that will be software obsolete in a decade. I would rather just take out a loan at a slightly higher interest rate and buy something like this to drive around. No worries about warranties if I modify it a bit - what's not to like? But then I do own a performance shop so when something goes wrong it would just get modified.Yeah with more miles and some modifications you would lose some value but such is life. I would daily that and not give a darn what anyone thinks about it. And the time will probably come that I find something like this - maybe with a *few* more miles - and drive it like it's a new car - because I could care less what anyone thinks I should preserve because it's "low mileage"

GD

tom3 12-28-2020 11:06 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
Clay bar IROC? What have I missed? Link please if possible.

aliceempire 12-29-2020 04:48 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...-original.htmlb

Originally Posted by tom3 (Post 6408750)
Clay bar IROC? What have I missed? Link please if possible.

It's a lot to take in if you read through the whole journey

chazman 12-29-2020 05:12 PM

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat
 

Originally Posted by tom3 (Post 6408750)
Clay bar IROC? What have I missed? Link please if possible.

Only the most epic thread in TGO history!


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