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soarestransam 04-15-2015 09:44 PM

Steering shaft upgrade
 
Ok so im looking at a 1980's chevy g20 van and i see that it has the u joint steering shaft just like the one in the astro vans im wondering if this will work in my 88 gta also if it will fit what meeds to be done for it to fit into a f body i remembering reading something about the u joint needs to be spun 90 degrees in order for it to keep the steering in alignment is this true

Base91 04-15-2015 10:57 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
There are many threads on this and members selling the components all ready to install. Do some searches.

soarestransam 04-16-2015 07:33 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Ok so instead of the astro van shaft i decided im gonna use the xj cherokee shaft we have 2 of them going to scrap at work and my boss said if u need anything pull it out now before it goes i saw that this is a direct bolt in is this true or is there major work involved

WTR388 04-16-2015 08:11 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
I think the Jeep shaft requires you to grind a groove in the end of the steering shaft that comes out of the fire wall.

Alice89 04-16-2015 08:41 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
I cant help with your last post as I have no experience with the jeep shafts...

But I did buy a astro shaft from member "MC87SS" and had no issues what so ever with the transaction. The astro shaft he sold me made a noticeable difference, even with a brand new rag joint my steering still had a small amount of play. Installing the astro shaft completely eliminated the last of the play I had in my steering.

Here is his for sale thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...t-upgrade.html

Maybe try messaging him if your interested... Hope this helps.

92RS_Ttop 04-16-2015 09:18 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 

Originally Posted by WTR388 (Post 5904386)
I think the Jeep shaft requires you to grind a groove in the end of the steering shaft that comes out of the fire wall.

Yes it does. I have a jeep shaft in my camaro, and I had to grind a small groove in order to get the retaining bolt to fit. Not a difficult job, took only a few minutes with my dremel and a grinding stone.

soarestransam 04-17-2015 06:07 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Yea i wanted to do the astro shaft but if i can get the jeep shaft for free im gonna go that route im how ever gonna be the astro van steering column bearing to also eliminate the factory f body plastic one we have a astro van thats gonna be going to junk as well soon so ill make sure to take the steering shaft and bearing off that just to have the shaft as a extra and install the steering column bearing to have it installed in my steering column i have for my car

soarestransam 04-17-2015 06:08 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 

Originally Posted by 92RS_Ttop (Post 5904416)
Yes it does. I have a jeep shaft in my camaro, and I had to grind a small groove in order to get the retaining bolt to fit. Not a difficult job, took only a few minutes with my dremel and a grinding stone.

And if u dont mind can u send a pic of what i need to grind that would be great u can send them to my email soarestransam@aol.com

92RS_Ttop 04-17-2015 01:15 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 

Originally Posted by soarestransam (Post 5904505)
And if u dont mind can u send a pic of what i need to grind that would be great u can send them to my email soarestransam@aol.com

I'll try and grab a pic tonight while I'm working on the car.ill just post it in this thread so everyone can see.

soarestransam 04-17-2015 06:52 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Ok thanks alot for the help

JamesC 04-18-2015 07:12 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...&fr=aaplw&tt=b

Here's a how-to I contributed a while back:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ing-shaft.html

JamesC

soarestransam 04-18-2015 07:58 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Hey james thanks for contributing to the thread im going with the xj shaft instead though since its more user bolt in i seen a vid of it where u heat it up but the grinding part im trying to figure out what needs to be grinded down

JamesC 04-18-2015 08:16 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 

Originally Posted by soarestransam (Post 5904892)
...but the grinding part im trying to figure out what needs to be grinded down

If you mock the shaft up, you'll see where you need to use your Dremel. Hit that place lightly until you can thread the retaining screw into place. Easy peasy. Check the pics in the second link above for the general proximity of the grind. Post #2, pic #3 and post #4, pic #3.

JamesC

soarestransam 04-18-2015 12:40 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Ok when i get the steering shaft home ill see where it needs to be grinded at to make it fit

92RS_Ttop 04-18-2015 10:28 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Grabbed a few pics today of my setup. You need to grind the shaft right under where the bolt is sitting.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.thi...e8790772e5.jpg

soarestransam 04-19-2015 08:43 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Ok so this is on the steering column im guessing not the steering box side

92RS_Ttop 04-19-2015 09:42 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 

Originally Posted by soarestransam (Post 5905256)
Ok so this is on the steering column im guessing not the steering box side

Yes. The steering box actually has a flat side on it already, just line up the shaft so the bolt is on that side.

soarestransam 04-22-2015 03:42 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Ok so i got the steering shaft out yesterday and it got it installed on the column now will this keep the steering wheel straight when i install it onto the steering box or am i gonna have to recenter the steering wheel

onthedownlow 04-30-2015 09:39 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
I was wondering the same thing...

JamesC 05-01-2015 06:57 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
Verify that the steering wheel is locked and the front wheels are straight before you attempt the swap. That done, you should be good to go.

JamesC

RBob 05-01-2015 09:41 AM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 

Originally Posted by soarestransam (Post 5906755)
Ok so i got the steering shaft out yesterday and it got it installed on the column now will this keep the steering wheel straight when i install it onto the steering box or am i gonna have to recenter the steering wheel

If the steering wheel is off a little after the swap, need to correct (recenter) it by adjusting the tie-rods. Do not R&R the steering wheel to recenter it, that is the all-wrong way to do it.

Note that it isn't unusual for the steering wheel to be off a little after replacing anything in the steering column linkage.

RBob.

MC87SS 06-04-2015 08:02 PM

Re: Steering shaft upgrade
 
The 2nd post has instructions on notching the column.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...ing-shaft.html


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