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82knightrider 09-06-2005 06:19 AM

05 eclipse
 
My sister just got one brand new.Its a 5 speed 4 banger.Who would win in a race up to 50 mph?I gotta a 305 w/ a 4 barrel carb

87TPI350KID 09-06-2005 06:29 AM

Eclipse

klumb15 09-06-2005 07:35 AM

prolly the eclipse...but those things are heavy i've heard..the v6's aren't even that fast...

stu 09-06-2005 11:42 AM

I think you would win. Any Eclipse that isn't turbo sucks. The new 2006 Eclipse should be a little bit different story though.

urbanhunter44 09-06-2005 12:04 PM

The new eclipses are no joke for older cars, looking at their power levels this year. I have yet to see track times however.

I'd have to give this one to the eclipse.

stu 09-06-2005 12:58 PM

Is it an '05, or an '06, because it will make all the difference. 3rd gen = blows, 4th gen = not so much.

urbanhunter44 09-06-2005 01:16 PM

:doh:

I thought it said '06. They're the new body style right?

The '05s (older body style) were dogs. If your camaro runs correctly it'll take it off the line and hold it. I once test drove an '04, and was astounded by the fact that when I floored it.. it appeared to move no faster than it did at part throttle..

klumb15 09-06-2005 02:13 PM

oh yea, the 05 is the old body style...i was thinking about the 06 too...hmm..it'd be close, i think the elcipse might still have the upper edge because you have a crappy 305...305 TPI would definately beat it probably...

82knightrider 09-06-2005 02:24 PM


Originally posted by stu
Is it an '05, or an '06, because it will make all the difference. 3rd gen = blows, 4th gen = not so much.
Its the newest one.So I guess that makes it an 05.Ill throw a pic of it up later

stu 09-06-2005 04:13 PM

This is the 2005:
http://www.allautoreviews.com/auto_r...clipse%204.jpg

This is the 2006:
http://www.grafickytuning.cz/img/sou...pse_unor05.jpg


If it's the top one, you have a chance. If it's the bottom one, probably not.

82knightrider 09-06-2005 04:50 PM

yeah.its the bottom one

stu 09-06-2005 04:52 PM

Well, you said it was the 4 cylinder. I think that the one I see on the commercials all the time must be the 6 cylinder, unless they really squeezed 240 hp out of their 4 cylinder motor. So maybe you still do have a chance.

ShiftyCapone 09-06-2005 05:58 PM

The new 4 banger eclipse weighs 3300 lbs and makes 162hp and 162tq. I would say you should win a dig.

freestylzz 09-06-2005 06:47 PM

The V6 will have you. If you lose to the 4 banger your cars got problems.

Flash 09-06-2005 07:26 PM

I think you got a fair chance with this one, but then again it does depend on whether it's a four banger or a V6.

nitrous LX 09-06-2005 08:56 PM

you would win, imports suck

freestylzz 09-06-2005 09:06 PM

Ya, and like someone else here said "You would win. The camaro always wins. Even if you lose the camaro wins". :D

nitrous LX 09-06-2005 09:16 PM

:rolleyes:

urbanhunter44 09-07-2005 12:28 AM


Originally posted by freestylzz
Ya, and like someone else here said "You would win. The camaro always wins. Even if you lose the camaro wins". :D
yeah, I like that quote hahah

Wind Charger 09-07-2005 12:38 AM

that new 06 is ugly as balls

stu 09-07-2005 03:47 AM


Originally posted by nitrous LX
you would win, imports suck
You rock!

ShiftyCapone 09-07-2005 02:53 PM


Originally posted by nitrous LX
you would win, imports suck
I know. Isn't it amazing how slow STI's, Evo's, Supras, and turbo DSM cars are!

You need to hang out at the track more and get away from the mall parking lot.

79vette 09-07-2005 03:17 PM


Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
I know. Isn't it amazing how slow STI's, Evo's, Supras, and turbo DSM cars are!

You need to hang out at the track more and get away from the mall parking lot.

There is not a stock third gen that could touch any one of those cars listed above, save maybe the turbo trans am. Not only that but they can be made to go REALLY fast with little investment. I got alot of respect for those DSM AWD turbo cars. Did a couple of races against a modded one and it would beat me off the line but I would manage to pull ahead by the middle of the race. Won some money on that race.

Wind Charger 09-07-2005 04:19 PM

what does DSM mean?

ShiftyCapone 09-07-2005 05:05 PM


Originally posted by 79vette
There is not a stock third gen that could touch any one of those cars listed above, save maybe the turbo trans am. Not only that but they can be made to go REALLY fast with little investment. I got alot of respect for those DSM AWD turbo cars. Did a couple of races against a modded one and it would beat me off the line but I would manage to pull ahead by the middle of the race. Won some money on that race.
Your sarcasm detecter must not be working right ;) I know those cars would work over any stock 3rd gen. nitrous lx was saying that since imports suck he would lose soley on that basis.

79vette 09-07-2005 05:06 PM

Diamond Star motors- they built the 1st and second gen mitsubishi eclipses, Eagle talons, Plymouth lazers.

79vette 09-07-2005 05:08 PM


Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
Your sarcasm detecter must not be working right ;) I know those cars would work over any stock 3rd gen. nitrous lx was saying that since imports suck he would lose soley on that basis.
I know you were being sarcastic, I was just reinforcing your point. :thumbsup:

ShiftyCapone 09-07-2005 05:41 PM


Originally posted by 79vette
I know you were being sarcastic, I was just reinforcing your point. :thumbsup:
Ah I gotcha. I am not to quick on the uptake sometimes. :doh:

stu 09-07-2005 07:13 PM


Originally posted by 79vette
Diamond Star motors- they built the 1st and second gen mitsubishi eclipses, Eagle talons, Plymouth lazers.
And Starions, Galant VR-4, 3000GT

nitrous LX 09-07-2005 07:56 PM


Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
I know. Isn't it amazing how slow STI's, Evo's, Supras, and turbo DSM cars are!

You need to hang out at the track more and get away from the mall parking lot.

i am at the track on fri, sat, and sundays and only race cars in my category. mainly BIG BLOCK TRAILER QUEENS.:doh:

klumb15 09-08-2005 10:55 PM

yea imports can keep getting faster and faster, but the fun to drive aspect still never goes up....i drove my buddy's modded srt, and yea its sweet at first, just because its something new to drive...but after the speed aspect sets in, the car gets boring.....in my opinion, I'd take a less modded camaro or TA over a super fast import....you can have so much more fun with a rear wheel drive vehicle, and do stuff that you can't do with FWD or imports with no torque...

stu 09-09-2005 02:58 AM

What does FWD and torque have to do with imports?

klumb15 09-09-2005 07:11 AM

becasue the majority are FWD and have no torque....and the ones that are RWD, you ever seen them try to do a burnout....they get em spinning, and then they just catch right away cuz they have no torque to keep it going...

stu 09-09-2005 10:56 AM

Oh right, what was I thinking? Just like that import the SRT-4 that you previously spoke of. Where's my head at?

Dan8289gta 09-09-2005 11:16 AM


Originally posted by klumb15
oh yea, the 05 is the old body style...i was thinking about the 06 too...hmm..it'd be close, i think the elcipse might still have the upper edge because you have a crappy 305...305 TPI would definately beat it probably...

Would definatly beat it probably :lmao:

klumb15 09-09-2005 11:53 AM

haha you like that...definately probably....it works 60% of the time everytime....

and yea stu, in my book, anythign that sounds like a 4 banger with a fart can on it is an import....

cali92RS 09-09-2005 12:25 PM


Originally posted by klumb15

and yea stu, in my book, anythign that sounds like a 4 banger with a fart can on it is an import....

I like how some people can invent there own realities to reinforce their own beliefs...

freestylzz 09-09-2005 12:47 PM


Originally posted by klumb15


and yea stu, in my book, anythign that sounds like a 4 banger with a fart can on it is an import....

Heard one the other day, sounded like a big fat bumblebee trapped in a steel applejuice can.

I've considered writting a book and calling it the "Science of the Cans".

Maybe a movie too called "The Silence of the Cans".

urbanhunter44 09-09-2005 02:15 PM


Originally posted by klumb15
haha you like that...definately probably....it works 60% of the time everytime....

and yea stu, in my book, anythign that sounds like a 4 banger with a fart can on it is an import....

I know a couple that don't have 'fart cans' and are fast as hell...

82knightrider 09-09-2005 02:41 PM

I heard a fart can the other day when driving and man.I had to roll my windows up on a hot day it sounded that annoying!(AC doesnt work)

82knightrider 09-09-2005 02:42 PM


Originally posted by klumb15


and yea stu, in my book, anythign that sounds like a 4 banger with a fart can on it is an import....


What about a cavalier:confused:

Dan8289gta 09-09-2005 02:51 PM

cavaliers are a joke

TBI92Camaro 09-09-2005 03:13 PM

by reading this thread I lost a few IQ points....ugh

I love the folks who say "Imports arent fun to drive like domestics" and "All imports are slow" and "Imports have Fart cannons blah blah blah"

Wake up and realize your car is NOT the fastest thing out there. The imports, when properly modifed, are damn evil little bastards. MY buddy has an AWD 90 Talon and he converted over to auto, stall, and bunches of bolt ons and mods and when we took a ride, my ***, that thing scared the living **** out of me. we sat at a light and he started spooling up and his AFTERMARKET brakes couldnt even hold the car, which is sitting on 4 BFG G-force t/A DR's!!! Once he hit 28psi, he let off the brake and that thing was nasty and when he shifted at around 8800RPM, it got even scarier, cause I was pinned in my seat. once he gets his cage in, I see mid 6's in his future (1/8th).

Keep on dreaming imports have no potential just like so many of you do with Mustangs and you'll get your *** handed to you many times to come.

freestylzz 09-09-2005 05:19 PM


Originally posted by TBI92Camaro
by reading this thread I lost a few IQ points....ugh

I love the folks who say "Imports arent fun to drive like domestics" and "All imports are slow" and "Imports have Fart cannons blah blah blah"

Wake up and realize your car is NOT the fastest thing out there. The imports, when properly modifed, are damn evil little bastards. MY buddy has an AWD 90 Talon and he converted over to auto, stall, and bunches of bolt ons and mods and when we took a ride, my ***, that thing scared the living **** out of me. we sat at a light and he started spooling up and his AFTERMARKET brakes couldnt even hold the car, which is sitting on 4 BFG G-force t/A DR's!!! Once he hit 28psi, he let off the brake and that thing was nasty and when he shifted at around 8800RPM, it got even scarier, cause I was pinned in my seat. once he gets his cage in, I see mid 6's in his future (1/8th).

Keep on dreaming imports have no potential just like so many of you do with Mustangs and you'll get your *** handed to you many times to come.

And with that you're out of here :burnout:

82knightrider 09-09-2005 08:42 PM

A saw the biggest fart can of all time at the junkyard today.I was walking and tripped over it.Darn things will kill someone let alone making a person go deaf! lol

82knightrider 09-09-2005 08:44 PM


Originally posted by 82knightrider
A saw the biggest fart can of all time at the junkyard today.I was walking and tripped over it.Darn things will kill someone let alone making a person go deaf! lol
Oh,and for some reason it was in the camaro section:confused:
hopefully it came off a beretta or something:(

rx7speed 09-09-2005 08:53 PM


Originally posted by nitrous LX
i am at the track on fri, sat, and sundays and only race cars in my category. mainly BIG BLOCK TRAILER QUEENS.:doh:
I've seen a few of them. quite a few ran 13-14's

stupid slow domestics :p

rx7speed 09-09-2005 08:54 PM


Originally posted by klumb15
yea imports can keep getting faster and faster, but the fun to drive aspect still never goes up....i drove my buddy's modded srt, and yea its sweet at first, just because its something new to drive...but after the speed aspect sets in, the car gets boring.....in my opinion, I'd take a less modded camaro or TA over a super fast import....you can have so much more fun with a rear wheel drive vehicle, and do stuff that you can't do with FWD or imports with no torque...
yeah I see your point why would I drive my rx7 when I can go drive an 80's nova

nitrous LX 09-09-2005 08:56 PM


Originally posted by rx7speed
I've seen a few of them. quite a few ran 13-14's

stupid slow domestics :p

the ones i race run low 9sec and high 8 in the 1/4

rx7speed 09-09-2005 08:56 PM


Originally posted by klumb15
becasue the majority are FWD and have no torque....and the ones that are RWD, you ever seen them try to do a burnout....they get em spinning, and then they just catch right away cuz they have no torque to keep it going...
kinda like an iron duke thirdgen right?
I mean I see your point though with domestics


cavalier, 80's nova, malibu, baretta, corsica, focus, neon, all power houses. and can easily spin those tires into oblivion. I knew I should have bought one of those cars for the pure power I could have.


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