History / Originality Got a question about 1982-1992 Camaro or Firebird history? Have a question about original parts, options, RPO codes, when something was available, or how to document your car? Those questions, answers, and much more!

Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 10, 2017 | 01:45 PM
  #1  
E_S's Avatar
E_S
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Norway, Europe
Car: '87 GTA
Engine: 350
Transmission: Auto
Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

I have a pretty clean '87 GTA. Spent all its life in CA, so no rust and good paint, mechanical stock and very good, but after 130k miles, the factory "Ultima" sport seats were far beyond rescue. Due to no seat foam being available, restoring them would be extreme expensive here I live as the upholstery shops are big, big $$$ like paint shops. I got some close-to-new leather sports seats in the correct color from a '02 Trans Am and those were a big upgrade.

My question is - I don't have too much space for storing stuff - would it make sense to store the worn out factory installed seats to be able to make the car stock again, or can I take them to the junkyard/give them away to get rid of them?

I know that all-stock-original matters a lot on certain older cars, but what do you think in this case? Just to make it clear - the seats are very rough with holes, wear and disintegrating seat foam.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2017 | 02:06 PM
  #2  
mantaguy's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,892
Likes: 84
From: Mantua NJ
Car: 1 Owner 1986 TA with a WS6 package
Engine: 5.0 EFI
Transmission: THM700R4
Axle/Gears: 277 Posi Speedo
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Some day, some where,someone will need those seats for a restoration.If it were me ,I would save them.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2017 | 02:39 PM
  #3  
scottmoyer's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 8,459
Likes: 215
From: Florida
Car: 87 IROC-Z, 82 Pace Car
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

But, if the foam is deteriorated and falling apart, there is no benefit to saving them, as they will never be used. At some point, we do need to dispose of parts that "can't" be reused. I would hold onto the seat covers so you have a template for new covers if replacement seat foam becomes available. Many aftermarket seat covers don't match the originals very well, so having the old ones as a template may be beneficial. They also shouldn't take up much space.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2017 | 03:23 PM
  #4  
navy02ws6's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,220
Likes: 68
From: Atlanta
Car: '02 T/A WS6, '91 T/A, '91 Camaro RS
Engine: LS1, LB9, L03
Transmission: T56, 700R4, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 4.10 10 bolt, 2.73 10 bolts
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

I'd definitely hold on to them. IMO, they're one of the things that makes a GTA a GTA, and the 1993-02 Ultima seats got cheaper and had less features than their 1987-92 counterparts. Hopefully someday someone will make foam and correct covers for them; I also need foam for both my '91 and '02.

Right now, I am not aware of a single part on the entire seat that is available new. This includes the tracks, motors, switches, handles, trim, etc. You literally cannot find ANYTHING for these seats other than incorrect reproduction covers, and all other parts will have to be sourced from used seats until someone starts reproducing stuff. I'd hold on to them for now for that reason alone. If nothing else, you can use them for parts for the ones you just picked up.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2017 | 08:01 PM
  #5  
82tarecaro's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,708
Likes: 15
From: NYC
Car: 1982 Recaro TA, 1989 TTA#948
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Lethal interiors can make a new set of covers for those seats.
http://www.lethalinteriors.com/seats.html

I would hold on to them.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2017 | 09:08 PM
  #6  
John in RI's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
Community Favorite
iTrader: (170)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 5,261
Likes: 461
From: RI
Car: 1984 Camaro Berlinetta
Engine: LT1
Transmission: T56 6-speed
Axle/Gears: 4.11 LS1 Rear End
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Keep them, for yourself or someone else.

None of the parts on those seats - or at least VERY FEW, if any - are available as reproduction parts. Anything left in existence at this point in time that is in good/useable condition carries value/worth. You might not want to pay the huge expense of fully restoring them, but someone will, and that someone will need decent "small parts" to accomplish their restoration.

For example...... I need a good vacuum pump and would be interested in that part from your seats if you were willing to sell it. Seat tracks, seat plastics, seat hinges, & all kinds of 'small parts' from these seats are useful to others trying to retain the condition and functionality of their original Ultima seats.

Obviously; you HAVE to think of #1 ( you ) first. But if you have the space to hold them for awhile, at least make the seats or decent parts from it parts available to others before simply dumping them for trash.

Reply
Old Jan 10, 2017 | 09:40 PM
  #7  
rarebmx's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 914
Likes: 16
From: Imperial, Missouri
Car: 89 IROC/89 Vert/87 Vert/89 GTA Vert
Engine: 5.7/5.0/5.0/5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9" 2.77/9" 3:23/9" 3:42
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

You just need some foam & an electric carving knife. Possibly a drywall scrapper & you can build your own foam
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2017 | 11:49 AM
  #8  
DynoDave43's Avatar
Supreme Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 4,808
Likes: 905
From: MICHIGAN
Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: L03
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 Bolt 2.73 Open
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Originally Posted by rarebmx
You just need some foam & an electric carving knife. Possibly a drywall scrapper & you can build your own foam


http://www.usafoam.com/
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2017 | 12:52 PM
  #9  
mantaguy's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,892
Likes: 84
From: Mantua NJ
Car: 1 Owner 1986 TA with a WS6 package
Engine: 5.0 EFI
Transmission: THM700R4
Axle/Gears: 277 Posi Speedo
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Are these the seats we are discussing, Johnson/Hoover AQ9?
Name:  aq9%20seats%20001_zps3z7m07gn.jpg
Views: 355
Size:  94.8 KB
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2017 | 12:59 PM
  #10  
Bob88GTA's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,938
Likes: 99
From: Huntsville AL
Car: 88GTA
Engine: 5.7TPI
Transmission: Auto
Axle/Gears: 3.27
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?









I used usafoam for my seats. Not in a 3rd gen, but in my 96 Bronco. Then ordered the perfed covers and assembled them. Carving knife, spray adheisive, and a lot of patience!!!

Last edited by Bob88GTA; Jan 11, 2017 at 01:03 PM. Reason: pictures
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2017 | 01:15 PM
  #11  
mantaguy's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,892
Likes: 84
From: Mantua NJ
Car: 1 Owner 1986 TA with a WS6 package
Engine: 5.0 EFI
Transmission: THM700R4
Axle/Gears: 277 Posi Speedo
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Very Nice
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2017 | 08:52 PM
  #12  
B4C5.7's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 418
Likes: 1
From: Lascassas TN
Car: 1989 IROC G92 LB9 MK6
Engine: LB9
Transmission: MK6
Axle/Gears: 3.45
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Nice Bob...love a Bronco.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2017 | 12:59 PM
  #13  
E_S's Avatar
E_S
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Norway, Europe
Car: '87 GTA
Engine: 350
Transmission: Auto
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Okay, I'll keep them!

I don't have the patience to do a rebuild myself without it looking like crap. The nitty-gritty detail work just isn't my strong side when I totally lack patience - that's why I don't do any bodywork myself either. I'll stick to mechanical parts, that's more for me.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2017 | 02:59 PM
  #14  
rarebmx's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 914
Likes: 16
From: Imperial, Missouri
Car: 89 IROC/89 Vert/87 Vert/89 GTA Vert
Engine: 5.7/5.0/5.0/5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9" 2.77/9" 3:23/9" 3:42
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Originally Posted by E_S
Okay, I'll keep them!

I don't have the patience to do a rebuild myself without it looking like crap. The nitty-gritty detail work just isn't my strong side when I totally lack patience - that's why I don't do any bodywork myself either. I'll stick to mechanical parts, that's more for me.
Seats foam vs bodywork is like a facial vs neurosurgery.. You can do the seat foam easy enough. Bodywork can take years & years to.perfect. The new seat material will hide a lot but just have to make sure it's built up enough, but not too much (more is better though than not enough)
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2017 | 07:12 PM
  #15  
TPI Sierra's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 143
Likes: 1
From: Austin, Texas
Car: 1989 GMC Sierra
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Re: Original AQ9 "Ultima" worn out seats - keep or get rid of?

Just saying, I would LOVE to find a pair of red AQ9s for my truck.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:38 AM.