if you sport an lsx or plan on doing a lsx swap to your 3g post here.

if you sport a vtec, vvti, 4cyl v6 , 4bbl , TBI, TPI, or LTx here in so cal feel free to do so as well with your future mods.

post your recent kills or racing updates here.
Share your stories

 

heres my story.. its life started when i found her sitting down the street an old friend who had lost interest in the car. 300$ score!!


long story short it turned into a nice project!
turned into this



as of now it sits as a stock ls1 transplant during a hot summer in my driveway
mods: k&n fipk cold air intake, dual exhaust, a good clutch and a tune.
big brakes, some suspension work, an injured 10 bolt and 4 year old tires!

future mods:
ditching the cast manifolds for headers that are sitting in the garage.
06 gto dash board swap *because i love the gto dashboard.
bigger LsX and power adder *
moar!! suspension work and proper differential


recent kills
mid 80s sentra sr20 swap 7.8 1/8 mile slick out sleeper car *dead stop
2010 camaro ss auto 2nd gear roll
challenger srt8 2nd gear roll
STI bolt on car 3rd gear hwy
400+hp "supposably" dynoed STI 2nd gear roll
392rwhp H/c/i maroon iroc.. 3rd gear roll *no comment =)
magnacharged late model short bed Silverado 3rd gear hwy

loss best runs I've ran across
SOM formula exhaust intake 2nd gear roll & hwy
c6 ls3 vette intake exhaust 3rd gear hwy

 

Finally got my parts... Im installing pistons tomorrow and hoping to pull my tired 350 next week! so I hope to join you soon

 

Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You never beat that car.
Your brother got beat by the same car at the track.

 

Hey Vince don't kill the thread.

Administrator asked me to keep it civil and clean

You are pretty much saying you let off when my top end was pulling you in.
And the second run you "didn't" go because both me and the stock sunset orange formula pulled away, your excuse you couldn't HEAR the honks

Such a coincidence that you couldnt HEAR z28fast1 having hydraulic issues although he managed to trap a high mph He had his cut out open and You couldn't HEAR that? Nice way to claim a victory lol
What was your best time on a good day?

This is a new thread to change things around
Post your stories about your 3G
Post your updates and plans

Ex. Ditching your current set up with something more aggressive supercharger nitrous turbo

 

I have a 91RS & a 91Z28 future plans are to get the tpi with a cammed bolt ons, and the RS ls1 swap probably next year but for now the tbi will have to do.





As for kills i havent beaten anyone in myy thirdgens but i did beat a 69 camaro with my toyota 4 dr avalon lol

 

You know what they say about excuses......everybody has to have one LOL

If your ride isn't ready to do battle, don't flap your gums, and call anybody out!

Victory by any other name is a victory...Period!!!!

I Think I will try this next.

 

Lol perfuct excuse!! "nope he had no issues"

That's more of individual who is highly competitive and can't take a loss.

So many faster cars roam the streets that we'll never run into

What's that first intake running at? I would imagine you would have experimented with that intake years back? Back in the days when I was into my Tpi I missed out on a used unit on eBay for a killer deal I intended to do a stealth ram set up. But that's when the ls1 gained popularity and ruled the tracks and the streets I decided to change my mind they pulled so hard on top end I was a bit disappointed

Runing out of ideas I assume..?

 

You ever consider selling one and building your ultimate 3G ? Or you want to keep both ?

 

To do list:
Fast 92/92 Intake
3.55 or 3.73 gears
A/C recharge


Vince you beat me on that pass 12.4@ 109ish to my 13@105mph. After the pass I asked you if you wanted to run for some cash and you said no..."I don't want to get hussled..."

I even told you I would give you the hit for $100 but you declined. I left it at that and respected your decision then proceeded to make one more pass, 12.3@115mph.

Nothing personal, my offer still stands: I'll give you the hit, $100 in a friendly race.

About you loosing to TPI Terr, no need for hostility lets set up a friendly race and get it on film for "bragging rights." I'm sure TPI Terr wants to see what kind of gains he gets with headers instead of the stock exhaust manifolds.

 

You want to race, why not throw that offer at a certain grey TPI GTA?
No guts no glory!
After all. you did get beat by a small block chevy, what's the disgrace in that?

 

i raced a 80's 5.0 mustang the other day...right after i passed smog...at the red light he just looked over n said how about some 80's runs LOL i was like MMMKAY!....left it behind..pretty happy with the outcome after she sat for 3yrs...
305 tpi, t5, stage2 center force, short shifter
mild cam & aluminum heads..

to do list:
new tires
Upgrade my suspension
lower it and a new paint job
and ask santa(soon to be wife) for a 2' cowl hood

 

My reply was to Vince since we talked at LA Invasion. Its easy to bark from the sideline but I'll extend my same offer to you if you want to run with the big dogs. You get the hit, $100 and bring your son if you want me to kill 2 birds with one stone.

Talking about excuses, I don't want to hear them about your car being a daily driver smog legal car that's been stuck in the 12's for over a decade. Run what you brung!!

As for the the grey GTA, it runs hard and he does the least amount of talking. I don't want to call him out it would make for an interesting race, I would not give him the hit.

 

I use to race those 5.0's all the time with my SBC t5 set up. Quadrajet, on top of a Edelbrock performer, shorty headers, exhuast, centerfoce clutch and 3.73 gears. Put a hurting on a lot of hondas and mustangs lol!!

 

yes FORGOT to metion got the same style headers....i really dont race much in the street since i got surrounded when i went 90 on a 25mph zone lol... i keep it on the track but just the excitement of finally driving my ride kinda gave me the guts to run on the street just one more time lol...

OH and ANOTHER on the to do list:
exhaust cut outs(electronic)

anybody know if its cool installing before the cat or after..i kinda read somewhere that before the cats, it can ruin the valves (@.@) idk how...can someone correct me please...
thanks

 

Oh, I get it now, you only want to race who you think you can beat.
Then, when you get beat, you like to make excuses. You chose off Vince, sometimes you only get one chance, make the most of it, he did.

 

Well what to say about my car never ending project

1984 Camaro Z28
Been with the family since I can remember which is a very long time
I got the car a gift from my parents since my brother wrecked my 92 Z28 >


Mods
Stock 305 CCC Carb (love it) with HO Heads
TES Headers
Aluminum Intake
Full suspension upgrades: SFC, tubular rear suspension with all Energy Suspension bushing and 1LE sway bars ( took much to list)
Went from auto to T5 (best upgrade i ever did)

Future plans
355 with fully port and polished heads, cam, edelbrock intake, and a few other mods (don't like telling much what I have since i like keeping my secrets lol)
3.42 gears

This will go in once my 305 goes because I got other plans for my car
E Rod all I got to say






Wins
04 Mustang GT with mods
89 Iroc 350 tpi
95 camaro Z28
87 mustang GT
Nissan Titan 5.6L
05 Dodge Ram
A few Hondas and Acuras

Lose
90 Iroc (going after him again)
71 S. beetle (my dads car)
01 Trans Am

 

My car is not ready to run with the big dogs, so I am staying on the porch.

Watch out for Allen, he walks softly and carries a big stick.


I remember back 10+ years ago when my car was still stockish and in the low 14's, a black 99Z28 with a loud-mouth driver called me out and said he would let me leave first and then run me down by half-track. He was still in my rear view mirror when I crossed the finish line. I think his name was Ben and he was in the SCFB.

And I remember Don getting challenged by a '99 or '00 white Trans Am at Fontana. The owner thought it would be cool to race against another white Trans Am. Don beat him 13.10 to 13.30.

 

Everybody should just knife fight to the death who ever is last has the fastest car!

 

I like how you guys ignore so much ... And get others involved as well.

Don there's someone always faster out there And z28fast1 isn't saying he's the fastest car out there don't let this thread turn into a controversy.

Your a business owner you should know that
I'm beginning to think that you only pay attention to Tpi cars
You should get out more often, browse the Internet, YouTube videos

Plenty of nice modern affordable cars out there running low 12 out of the dealer

Its nice to experience new stuff It's also nice to hear peoples stories and plans this is he point of this thread


Valentin that's a nice shot of your car !

 

Thanks bro

The first pix was taken by Steve came out good
And the rest of the pics were taken by me

 

If they do that Im just going to be sitting on the side eating popcorn and drinking a soda while enjoying the show lol

 

Yes there is always a faster car out there, and that car can have a TPI, a 4 cylinder, a 6 cylinder, a carburetor, or anything. The fastest car doesnt always have an LSx under the hood.

Of course we only pay attention to TPI cars. Thats the niche Don and I concentrate on because there really isnt anyone else out there in SoCal who specializes in thirdgens and TPI engines. Thats one of the first rules of business right? Find the customer's need and provide for that need. Yes we're aware of LS1 engines and the power potential they have, but why do you insist we focus on them or pay attention to them? Do you also insist that LS1 mechanics learn how to work on Ford Modular engines or Dodge Hemi engines too? Its like you consider us inferior to you because we dont work on LS1 engines or have LS1 engines under our hoods. Whats up with that?

One last thing, I'd like you to list the "modern affordable cars out there that run low 12" off the dealer's lot. I dont consider $30,000 or more to be affordable, but hey, I'm just a TPI mechanic.

 

Some people have the wrong impression, I enjoy my 3rd gen, I enjoy working on it, I enjoy helping others reach their goals working on their 3rd gens.

Most of us are a fun loving bunch of gearheads that like doing things together and enjoyig life.
I don't need all the crap that gets thrown around on here and wish it would go away.

Not everybody enjoys TPI like we do but ... well you get the drift,
I'm out.

 

We arent saying ls1 is the fastest we are saying its the easiest to make horsepower...

 

*sigh...

 

Thats your opinion. I'm sure there are lots of Ford Modular and Dodge Hemi owners who would disagree with you.

 

My 91 camaro With my new ls1 This is how far I got today hope to start installing at the end of the week Then ill tell you what ill beat...

 

I can understand what you are trying to say
As for me I'm not one that like to cause trouble
If my statement did say something to cause some trouble I am sorry truly am

You Don know somewhat of a person that I am since you have worked on my car a few times and I appreciate all the work and advice you have gave me...

I don't understand why can't we just get along like it was before some people say that it is hard due to the problems that are going on and it goes farther then I know

As for the TPI set ups I think they are some pretty good set ups and to see how much You (Don) and others in SCTPI have took them beyond their limit has just amaze me... I was planning on going with a TPI set up myself till you told me I could since it would be alittle hard to do it... No problem with me

I have respect to all the thirdgen set ups that are out there
I really don't care what someone gots under the hood we all drive thirdgens (majority of us do) and that's what it is all about the cars...

Also for example I know my friend is going to kill me for says this
We are building a 355 TPI for his car should be a fun little motor once he is down with his motor we are dropping in my motor since it been sitting in the garage for a while

 

as said, it shouldnt matter what kind of setup you're running, the love should remain intact for the simple fact that we all drive third gens.

 

Let's clear the air a little.
I don't need you to tell me what I need to do.
I have been around the racing game more years than you have been born.
I was racing a fullbodied sedan in the 10's back in the 60's
I was piloting an 8 second car in the 70's before they
strapped a pair of huggies on you.

I am the first and the only 355 TPI car putting
400HP & 430TQ to the rear wheels.
If I wanted to do the expenditure and the efforts
I would build a TPI car to make all your LSX stuff look sick.
I might have lost a step or two at my age but someone
else in my car as it stands, would most likely show you a thing or two.
So again, I don't need you to tell me anything.
I was racing the likes of Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins, Ronnie Sox, Dick Landy, Butch Leal and others in Pro Stock from '69-'78.

I have a third gen for fun and that's it, I don't need
to be king of the hill or the fastest car out there.

I hope this make things a little clearer,
Below are the pictures:

http://www.digitalpixeldump.com/data...nsWheelup_.jpg
http://www.digitalpixeldump.com/data...o_Stocker2.jpg
http://www.digitalpixeldump.com/data...hevy-Lions.jpg

 

A group of guys was standing around my engine bay yesterday at the Cali Generalz BBQ and the exact topic came up. I asked everyone to turn around and look the other way for a moment and I slammed the hood. I then asked everyone if they would be able to tell me what motor my car had in it a month from now while I was driving down the street. Everyone laughed, why? Because it doesn’t freaking matter!!! I’ve owned rotary powered Datsun 510’s, rotary powered Mazda’s, Toyota pickups with side draft carbs, 240/260 Z’s, V8 powered classic Chevys, Porsches, M BMW’s, AMG Mercs, and 4 3rd gens with every level of performance build there is and raced each and every one!
What is under you hood is your business!

As far as racing goes… I don’t care what you drive or what’s under the hood. You line up and whoever reels in 1320 feet first, wins. Bad 60 foot’s, missed shifts, wrong tires, not tuned, all irrelevant. If you agree to line up, you agree to accept the consequences of winning or losing PERIOD!

Power is nothing without control and control comes with experience. Identical cars, inexperienced driver vs. an experienced drive. Experience will dominate time and time again.

Vince and I had a disagreement on whose car was faster one afternoon at Don’s shop. After talking smack for a few minutes, we excused ourselves, found an empty stretch of road down the street from Don’s shop, lined up, and handled business motor to motor driver to driver. Drove back to Don’s shop and went about out day. I happened to beat him that day just as he had beat me other times we raced. Its FRIENDLY rivalries like this that have kept this group of gear heads moving forward with 3rd gen performance.

I’m all for smack taking and the like but let’s keep it respectful and light. If you get beat don’t get pissed, get motivated. Go back to the drawing board and come out and hurt some feelings next time

 

Wins: numerous street bikes, a 2010 Audi R8 v10, 2009 Mercedes-Benz 6.3 AMG Black coupe. No losses yet.

 

Impressive don! See ive never met you or your son to even know what you were up to in the 70s. I personally don't know you or made business's with. Perhaps because people for some unknown reason judge on what's found under the hood of the 3G?

I'm part of the younger generation going fast on a budget, working and going to school as part of a lifestyle.
Vincent probably has kids my age and your probably older than my grandfather

 

How do does 6.3 Amgs run?

 

^^ ??

 

Why dont you come out to our picnic this Saturday and meet us, then? I have nothing personal against you, only your claim that an LS1 is the only way to make power. I would like the chance to sit down with you face to face and talk engines.

Mike, share with us again the story of when we were on the cruise and the Mustang owner called you out for money. But his girlfriend wouldnt let him race.

 

WOW, that was almost 10 years ago!

We have only to access the TGO archives to relive the experience, hilarious read enjoy

Red Rocket was my 1986 Z28.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/sout...okes-03-a.html

 

Kevin I'm not here to talk about ls1 engines not here to promote ls1 transplants either
It was a new experience not a preference. Its not like I go to meets and diss or show no interest if you dont have a ls1 transplant.

This is a so cal Thirdgen a community representing all third gens

There is a reason you run sctpi it's only Tpi related

Now this is something different this isn't SC tpi

 

You're right, you are what you said you are "a very impressionable young man" looking to learn. I hope you stick around long enough to accomplish that goal.
Life is not all about LSX engines, it's about having good times, and enjoying those times with others.

 

I'm sorry then, I must have confused your comments with someone elses. You're still welcome to come to the picnic.

Mike, 9 years ago? Holy cow, I thought it was no more than 5 years. Some of those posters are still around, and some moved on as life took them in a different direction.

 

Crazy isn't it!? People we used to hang out with all the time have slowly disappeared over the years. Most of the people on that thread are still around and we've stayed in touch over the years. Life happens brother... The important part is to leave a lasting impression but make sure its the right impression

 

Older gentleman and his son flew by me in a late 70's Z28. I followed them then we finally came to a stop. We took off at the same time and I showed him what a tired 207k mile 3rd gen TBI motor could do. All he saw were fat 315 tires in front of him. He had what sounded like a beefy motor. Asked him for another go around and he respectfully declined.

Still working on the LT1 in my spare time. Just got some aluminum heads for it. Now I have to port them and the manifold, get a cam and supporting valvetrain, headers a tune. Going to do some suspension and rear wheel fitting adjustments and get it ready for Adams eventually. I do plan on swapping in a T5 when I get a good price on a tranny. That's it for now. LT1 PRIDE!

 

they are MEAN 500+ horsepower mid 12's to high 11's depending on the year. They dont leave very hard but at 100 mph the power starts to come on hard. When my 06 GTO was stock one walked me after 100 like I was standing steel. Now my they are like Mustangs but If your stock expect to lose by alot.

 

i had an 05 do a fly bye on me. i know that the newer ones are faster.

 

like what mike said, a third gen is a third gen. dosnt matter what motor it has. were all from the same fam bam.
tpi terr
i know why you want to call out vince. it becuz he goes around saying that he beats you and talk trash on ls1. i think next time you guys run ,record it. so we can all see.
Don
your a cool cat but i do respect what you do. when i was doing the motor swap you came down to check it out. that was cool.but i think doing this swap was a night and day diff. i cant wait to start modding it out.
for the kill story
i raced so many cars . i won some and lost some. i lost count already. but that dosnt stop me. just gets me in the mood to work on the motor and start modding out.

 

sup jr! im all in it for fun.. just like you.. im happy you got your car running right.
about the friendly rotw curise hwy run..
well there is video.. my buddy in his pewter ws6 was in back of us recorded both runs.

BUT we all now how vince is.. so theres no reason to broadcast it.. he'll come up with some type of excuse.

and as in matter in fact my buddy in his sunset orange formula was involved in both runs.. his car has a voolant intake and just a gmmg exhaust
well he was AHEAD of not just me but vincent as well.

funny how vincent took that other car out of the picture ...

if vincent is up for a another run i will be up for it but this time ill bring out a couple of HD go pros with different angles to determine precise measurements.

you can email me at
tpiterror@yahoo.com


screen shot on my phone to know this post existed

you win some you lose some.

 

I disagree. A picture is worth a thousand words, and a movie is worth a million. If you have footage of Vince losing then you have the ability to stop the back and forth banter. I think you should post it

 

VincentZ28 (TPI) vs. Z28FAST1 (LSX) Video @ LA Invasion

 

Looks like Tpi terr got suspended!

Greygoose how come you don't have footage of z28fast1 personal best for that day? Maybe update sc3g fastest cars list as well.