my car is stock ride hight i seem to get mixed pinions on this.... are the relocation brackets more for lowered cars?

 

They are an inescapable necessity for lowered cars. However, even at stock ride height, these cars have the wrong geometry.

They can't hurt anything. If you have enough power to spin the tires, you'll benefit from them.

Gotta be the biggest bang-for-the-buck mod I ever did to my car.

 

i guess it will just be somthing i do when i do the LCA and panhard rod.

 

I am thinking about getting a set for my car, especially since I will be lowering it. I don't think that the car is going to be lower considering the huge sagging I have due to 186k on the suspension. So I don't think traction is gonna get worse. I am in the process of rebuiling my ENTIRE suspension: ball joints, poly bushings, SFC's ( already in), lowering springs, and an adj. panhard bar. The only thing I am missing are LCA's, and I think that I'll get the brackets before I spend the money on the LCA's. Whoever had the car before me put these inserts into the stock LCA's in the U bend that make it so the metal doesn't flex as much, sort of giving them a boxed effect if you will.

So I figure that with them boxed and with new poly bushings, the LCA's will work fine IF I get the relocation brackets. I have trouble hooking the 255's so the geometry must be all jacked up.

 

The symptom of the geometry problem, above all others, is wheel hop.... if your car does that when you stand on it or dump the clutch or whatever, then they will definitely fix it.

Look at how your control arms go now. They're probably higher at the rear than at the front. Now think about what your car does when you get on it.... it squats in the rear. That makes the front of the LCA, the frame end, even lower than the end attached to the axle.

The way the engine's power gets transmitted from the tires to the car, is through the rear end. The axles push on the housing, the housing pushes on the control arms, the LCAs push the frame. Now imagine what happens if the rear of the LCA is higher than the front when you push on it. It will try to rotate upwards, right? Of course it does. So with your LCAs pointing that way, if your car really hooks up hard, and everything starts pushing it forward, the first thing the rear is going to do is to try to rotate upwards. When it does that, it unloads the tires. When they unload, they spin. When they spin, the push force goes away. When that happens, the tendency to rotate goes away; the rear gets pushed back down against the pavement by the springs, until there's enough force that the tires hook up again. The rear starts to push, which tries to rotate it upward..... and on and on, about 5 to 7 times a second. Sound familiar? LCA RLBs fix that, by making the rear want to rotate downward, into the pavement, instead of away from it.

 

What he said above. On my car it got rid of the wheel hop. When I launch, the front AND rear move up. 1-2 shift is now more of a chirp instead of 20 feet of tire marks and sliding sideways.